Leeds open legal proceedings

[Saxondale]

They are the Argentina of English domestic football.

[Fox92]

1 hour ago, LCFCJohn said:

Leeds are a disgrace and their fans frothing at the mouth wanting us to go out of business because of the ‘we predict a riot’ song are an embarrassment. Literally the thinnest skin out they, they can’t even take a joke of a chant. 

They've always been a weird fanbase; I can't believe people have only just realised.

 

Only fanbase around that sing about winning a trophy they never even won.

 

Plus they like to bang on about how much of a big club they supposedly are. 

 

[21st Century Fox]

[FoxCal]

Find the suggestion that we should pursue against Everton and Forest when we were brought up on charges relating to the same periods (unless I’m misremembering). Can’t imagine we really have a leg to stand on when we just broke the same rules with less success.

 

A case against Man City and possibly Chelsea feels more realistic, particularly since those two 5th place finishes were bigger contributors to our downfall than the relegations, in my opinion. Gambling on making the CL and missing out to teams who continue to get away with their own PSR misgivings was infinitely more damaging than our breach was to Leeds, particularly as time goes on.

 

I also acknowledge that clubs are only concerned with themselves but think it’s in extremely bad taste (particularly on the side of their fans frothing at the thought of us paying out to them) that a club that nearly went out of business not all that long ago would heap this onto another club that are clearly in trouble and already bordering on being financially unsustainable, if we aren’t already.

[dmayne7]

13 hours ago, Rubbersoul said:

We genuinely did them a favour. They’re in a much stronger position now than if they went up first time 

Exactly. Very short sighted. They'd likely have gone straight back down and wouldn't have been able to sign the players they did

[surrifox]

33 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

They've always been a weird fanbase; I can't believe people have only just realised.

 

Only fanbase around that sing about winning a trophy they never even won.

 

Plus they like to bang on about how much of a big club they supposedly are. 

 

Yes Man U’s big rivals despite being 2 divisions below them 🤣

[em9999]

I wonder if they will take a pound a week 🤔 if they win case 

 

 

[Foxmeister]

9 hours ago, Chrysalis said:

Its a no go.

 

The winners outright is clickable and shows odds but "League 1 Relegation Odds Outright" isnt clickable.

Oddschecker shows it, I haven’t seen the actual site though.

[AjcW]

Thought this might be about the away GK kit to be honest....

[Bert]

18 hours ago, moore_94 said:

Surely we have a case against Everton for 22/23

 

And if it isn’t just about the amount of points deducted then Forest as well?

I do believe we’ve decided against going ahead with it. 

[Stadt]

16 hours ago, Chrysalis said:

Its a no go.

 

The winners outright is clickable and shows odds but "League 1 Relegation Odds Outright" isnt clickable.

I put £20 on the other day, hence relegation thread. Although the market was listed as League 1 Bottom 4 Finish

[Finnegan]

10 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Plus they like to bang on about how much of a big club they supposedly are. 

 

 

Tbf, I've said this before but when you live here you do kinda realise where this comes from. Leeds do feel very important to the people here, the club is extremely ever present, a lot of local people are very passionate about the club, there's murals and whatever all over the place, pubs, shops, vans, people's houses, everything's got Leeds United all over it. It seems quite a big deal in Leeds to embrace their local teams as part of their local identity. In Leicester we have City fans and Tigers fans that act like they're rivals to each other which is ****ing weird, like we're all Leicester yknow. Here a lot of people support United and the Rhinos like it's one big club almost.

 

Walking or driving around most cities, Leicester, Nottingham, Derby, etc you could be forgiven for not having a clue who the local team even is. You don't see people out and about in Leicester shirts, there's no real presence for the club, you don't see loads of pubs with the colours and Leicester badges and shit everywhere.

 

That's not me saying the Leeds fans are right, btw, and that they ARE massive - outside of Leeds they obviously aren't. They're irrelevant out of Leeds. But I do understand how people born and raised here can think that they are genuinely massive because they see Leeds United everywhere they go.

 

Edited Thursday at 20:27 by Finnegan

[Corky]

11 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

 

Well, this is it. Leeds are attempting to use Burnley's action against Everton as a precedent, but in reality the two cases are completely different. Burnley's case centred on the argument that had Everton's six-point deduction been imposed in the season in which the breach occurred, Burnley would have avoided relegation because they finished four points behind. Leeds cannot make the same argument because had our six-point deduction been imposed in 23-24, they'd still have finished behind us. So Leeds must be arguing that our six-point deduction, which was ratified by an appeal panel, did not fully reflect the advantage gained from the PSR breach—which is completely unprovable. I'm no legal expert, but I suspect Leeds are going to find it much harder to argue their case than Burnley did.

I believe the same panel sat on the Everton PSR case (the 10 point deduction hearing) and were also sitting for the second case involving Burnley's claim. They were apparently unhappy with the subsequent reduction to six and that impacted the financial sanction for Everton.

 

It was not a binding case.

[KingsX]

Leeds, Leeds are failing in court again

[Chrysalis]

8 hours ago, Foxmeister said:

Oddschecker shows it, I haven’t seen the actual site though.

Ok its there now, added in last 48 hours I guess, wasnt there 2 days ago, but its greyed out on the site.  However does load a page when clicking the link from oddschecker, thanks.  Not sure if I can be bothered to register on bet victor though.

Edited Thursday at 22:17 by Chrysalis

[South Shire Fox]

On 15/07/2026 at 18:35, Tuna said:

Petty and pathetic

If its proven then they have missed out on millions of pounds of Premier league money. Cant blame them if they could get a big payout from it. Blame Jon Rudkin and the others running the club for the finances

Edited yesterday at 00:36 by South Shire Fox

[ClaphamFox]

5 hours ago, South Shire Fox said:

If its proven then they have missed out on millions of pounds of Premier league money. Cant blame them if they could get a big payout from it. Blame Jon Rudkin and the others running the club for the finances

How can it be ‘proven’?

[fox_up_north]

Having worked in and lived around Yorkshire (West and South) there's definitely a level of exceptionalism to the attitudes there. It's also among Yorkshire staff I've been asked to cut corners the most. 

[st albans fox]

21 hours ago, FoxCal said:

Find the suggestion that we should pursue against Everton and Forest when we were brought up on charges relating to the same periods (unless I’m misremembering). Can’t imagine we really have a leg to stand on when we just broke the same rules with less success.

 

A case against Man City and possibly Chelsea feels more realistic, particularly since those two 5th place finishes were bigger contributors to our downfall than the relegations, in my opinion. Gambling on making the CL and missing out to teams who continue to get away with their own PSR misgivings was infinitely more damaging than our breach was to Leeds, particularly as time goes on.

 

I also acknowledge that clubs are only concerned with themselves but think it’s in extremely bad taste (particularly on the side of their fans frothing at the thought of us paying out to them) that a club that nearly went out of business not all that long ago would heap this onto another club that are clearly in trouble and already bordering on being financially unsustainable, if we aren’t already.

Man City didn’t break any financial rules during those two seasons.  And I need to double check on Chelsea but I think they too cleared psr those two seasons. (Ie across the running three year numbers) 

 

there is no case for us to take on. 

[Foxmeister]

21 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Man City didn’t break any financial rules during those two seasons.  And I need to double check on Chelsea but I think they too cleared psr those two seasons. (Ie across the running three year numbers) 

 

there is no case for us to take on. 

You could sensibly argue a legacy benefit though.

[st albans fox]

9 minutes ago, Foxmeister said:

You could sensibly argue a legacy benefit though.

At this time, neither club have been found guilty of any psr breaches. 

Isn’t there a time bar on these things ??

[Terraloon]

On 16/07/2026 at 10:53, FoxCal said:

Find the suggestion that we should pursue against Everton and Forest when we were brought up on charges relating to the same periods (unless I’m misremembering). Can’t imagine we really have a leg to stand on when we just broke the same rules with less success.

 

A case against Man City and possibly Chelsea feels more realistic, particularly since those two 5th place finishes were bigger contributors to our downfall than the relegations, in my opinion. Gambling on making the CL and missing out to teams who continue to get away with their own PSR misgivings was infinitely more damaging than our breach was to Leeds, particularly as time goes on.

 

I also acknowledge that clubs are only concerned with themselves but think it’s in extremely bad taste (particularly on the side of their fans frothing at the thought of us paying out to them) that a club that nearly went out of business not all that long ago would heap this onto another club that are clearly in trouble and already bordering on being financially unsustainable, if we aren’t already.

I have said time after time that the actions taken by the club to to fight the PL would come back to bite the club on the bum and here I think the actions of the club to fight the rules as opposed to dealing with the financial issues that cause those issues is a great concern the  fact that whilst tthere weren’t charges for 23/24 doesn’t mitigate that based on the numbers there was an issue and whilst arbitration couldn’t overturn the  “ erroneous “ ( sorry for using that word ) decision of the appeals IC ruling.
 

The fact remains that the PLs core arguments regarding jurisdiction was in the end the agreed  consequence. So no charge but the numbers remain a factor. Time after time people say LCFC won that case . Won ? Delayed matters maybe

 

When it comes to M City and Chelsea two completely different matters . M Cities still hasn’t been ruled on but the wording that was in Chelsea’s settlement agreement was deliberate and my guess would be that Chelsea’s lawyers knew all to well that they needed to get the IC signing off the agreement to state ( be it we agree with it or not ) that there was in effect no sporting advantage. 
 

Where  this all goes I have no idea and whilst I would hope that LC have some sort of insurance cover any significant ruling against the club could be catastrophic.

Edited 19 hours ago by Terraloon

[Terraloon]

1 hour ago, Foxmeister said:

You could sensibly argue a legacy benefit though.

Sorry what would be your starting point ?
 

As St Albans says at this time neither club has been found guilty of any PSR excesses. 
 

LCFC issues have been confirmed by various panels who say that LCFC exceeded the allowable sums . As I said in my earlier post the wording in Chelsea’s settlement agreement and sanctioned by a formal IC makes it clear that what you are dealing with isn’t a PSR matter but a matter of payments not made in accord with process , even then that settlement agreement makes it absolutely clear that had Chelsea not co operated indeed they themselves put forward and agreed to scenarios around those payments that weren’t able to be proved even to the level of beyond reasonable doubt.
 

 

[HitchinFox]

On 16/07/2026 at 09:59, Saxondale said:

They are the Argentina of English domestic football.

 

Nah. Argentina wins things.

 

Leeds are more like Panama. Few appearances in the top table and they have convinced themselves that people are intimated by their physical way of playing. 

[Long Eaton Fox]

If the 6 point deduction was applied to our championship winning season then we would be still 1 point ahead of leeds. No difference. We get promoted they finish third