coolhandfox Posted 23 August Posted 23 August (edited) 19 minutes ago, ElusiveEd said: Russell has told LP that he wants to play a more defensive style of footie and he's not in his plans going forward. It's a tricky one but LP just wants to play football and it's a toss up between heading to Man U now knowing he's gonna have to either fight to impress and play or be loaned out or stay here and fight for a place knowing his manager has basically binned him already. He's supported Man U since a young kid but LCFC have treated him appallingly and he and his family just want some clarity as to where things stand. As much as I'd love him to stay I think I'd know what I would do if in his position and that would be to go. Not what I've heard..... Edited 23 August by coolhandfox 1
Popular Post ElusiveEd Posted 23 August Popular Post Posted 23 August 5 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Not what I've heard..... Then tell us what you've heard and I'll compare it to what his mum and dad (of whom I'm a family friend of long before Louis was even born) tells me. I could go into a helluva lot more detail but out of respect for Lisa, Don and of course Louis I won't! 10
Popular Post Happy Fox Posted 23 August Popular Post Posted 23 August Martin is a w**ker , we really have a shite manager on our books, Page should leave for his own good. 5
Muzzy_no7 Posted 23 August Posted 23 August 44 minutes ago, ElusiveEd said: Russell has told LP that he wants to play a more defensive style of footie and he's not in his plans going forward. It's a tricky one but LP just wants to play football and it's a toss up between heading to Man U now knowing he's gonna have to either fight to impress and play or be loaned out or stay here and fight for a place knowing his manager has basically binned him already. He's supported Man U since a young kid but LCFC have treated him appallingly and he and his family just want some clarity as to where things stand. As much as I'd love him to stay I think I'd know what I would do if in his position and that would be to go. Yeah this just doesn’t make sense
lcfc81 Posted 23 August Posted 23 August This would be so disappointing. I was hoping he would be a central player this year. I know he is young and can't play every minute. There are so many better ways to make us more defensive than sidelining LP. 1
DezFox Posted 24 August Posted 24 August 3 hours ago, ElusiveEd said: Russell has told LP that he wants to play a more defensive style of footie and he's not in his plans going forward. It's a tricky one but LP just wants to play football and it's a toss up between heading to Man U now knowing he's gonna have to either fight to impress and play or be loaned out or stay here and fight for a place knowing his manager has basically binned him already. He's supported Man U since a young kid but LCFC have treated him appallingly and he and his family just want some clarity as to where things stand. As much as I'd love him to stay I think I'd know what I would do if in his position and that would be to go. So he has told LP that he wants to play a more defensive style, a more defensive style than what? Can you calirfy the first sentence, I’m not sure I understand. Can LP notoriously not play defensive football? RM has brought it Cullen and Chaplin who are surely less defensive than LP? I find it all very confusing
Claudio Fannieri Posted 24 August Posted 24 August 6 hours ago, ElusiveEd said: Russell has told LP that he wants to play a more defensive style of footie and he's not in his plans going forward. It's a tricky one but LP just wants to play football and it's a toss up between heading to Man U now knowing he's gonna have to either fight to impress and play or be loaned out or stay here and fight for a place knowing his manager has basically binned him already. He's supported Man U since a young kid but LCFC have treated him appallingly and he and his family just want some clarity as to where things stand. As much as I'd love him to stay I think I'd know what I would do if in his position and that would be to go. Wow this is absolutely incredible, wants to play a more defensive style, so will persist with the likes of Skipp & Choudhury rather than one of the brightest young talents we have produced in years. Absolute madness and also very very concerning. I was really hoping this would be the opportunity for Louis to be a regular in the matchday 18 and lots of starts, to hear he is effectively being pushed out the club is really concerning.. Hope this is not because he is seen as saleable asset and the club are just looking to raise some fast cash. 2
Popular Post Sly Posted 24 August Popular Post Posted 24 August 1 hour ago, Claudio Fannieri said: Wow this is absolutely incredible, wants to play a more defensive style, so will persist with the likes of Skipp & Choudhury rather than one of the brightest young talents we have produced in years. Absolute madness and also very very concerning. I was really hoping this would be the opportunity for Louis to be a regular in the matchday 18 and lots of starts, to hear he is effectively being pushed out the club is really concerning.. Hope this is not because he is seen as saleable asset and the club are just looking to raise some fast cash. Wanting to play a more defensive style, with the irony being we can’t defend! 1 4
Popular Post ceebeefox Posted 24 August Popular Post Posted 24 August He was our best midfielder Saturday. 7
Popular Post Tommy Fresh Posted 24 August Popular Post Posted 24 August Surely at this point McCarron should be stepping in and saying not happening Russell I'm afraid, Martin won't even be here by the time Page turns 20 9
ClaphamFox Posted 24 August Posted 24 August 10 hours ago, ElusiveEd said: Russell has told LP that he wants to play a more defensive style of footie and he's not in his plans going forward. It's a tricky one but LP just wants to play football and it's a toss up between heading to Man U now knowing he's gonna have to either fight to impress and play or be loaned out or stay here and fight for a place knowing his manager has basically binned him already. He's supported Man U since a young kid but LCFC have treated him appallingly and he and his family just want some clarity as to where things stand. As much as I'd love him to stay I think I'd know what I would do if in his position and that would be to go. This bit doesn’t really make sense. Nothing in Martin’s career, nor his time with us so far, suggests he would want to play a more defensive style of football. He very likely wants better defenders who can play the way he wants, but that does not equate to adopting a more defensive style (which for Martin would amount to abandoning his entire football philosophy). Why have we been signing so many attackers if that’s the plan? Page may well have supported Man Utd since a kid and the club may well have treated him poorly (that’s entirely believable), but this stuff about Martin not wanting him doesn’t really stack up—Page is exactly the kind of player Martin likes. 3
Chelmofox Posted 24 August Posted 24 August It’s more likely to get new defenders in, Page has to go. No one is taking Skipp and co, so Page is the last asset available right now. 1
TommyK Posted 24 August Posted 24 August Maybe it means in the position Page plays he wants a more defensive minded player. Martin is not a defensive manager in the traditional sense. He wants games controlled but not defensive
ClaphamFox Posted 24 August Posted 24 August 4 minutes ago, Chelmofox said: It’s more likely to get new defenders in, Page has to go. No one is taking Skipp and co, so Page is the last asset available right now. 4 minutes ago, TommyK said: Maybe it means in the position Page plays he wants a more defensive minded player. Martin is not a defensive manager in the traditional sense. He wants games controlled but not defensive Both of these make more sense than Martin telling Page he wants to play a more defensive style.
ceebeefox Posted 24 August Posted 24 August I can’t believe Cullen, to date our new invisible man replacing BDR, is getting a game in front of Page. I hope, if we start to get control of games ( can’t see it happening though) Cullen may pop up edge of the box and do something, but to date all I’ve seen of him is him having it took off him, he’s not got a pass or shot away yet in both games! Page did more in ten minutes. 2
lcfc sheff Posted 24 August Posted 24 August 10 hours ago, ElusiveEd said: Then tell us what you've heard and I'll compare it to what his mum and dad (of whom I'm a family friend of long before Louis was even born) tells me. I could go into a helluva lot more detail but out of respect for Lisa, Don and of course Louis I won't! Well you sound like you’ve already done a disrespectful thing to them!! 2 2
LCFCCKEANO Posted 24 August Posted 24 August 51 minutes ago, TommyK said: Maybe it means in the position Page plays he wants a more defensive minded player. Martin is not a defensive manager in the traditional sense. He wants games controlled but not defensive Think it’s that Braybrooke role in the team, and I think for good or bad he sees Hamza as the alternate there for the defensive work. This one is going to be the hardest for me to get past with Martin, it better work out favourably because selling an 18 year old because he doesn’t currently fit the team would be incredibly short sighted when the manager is brand new and comes with this much baggage. 100% convinced we still don’t have our starting 6 for the season unless we bring in a heap, in which case it will be Skipp for sure until Martin goes
AKCJ Posted 24 August Posted 24 August 11 hours ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said: If we are actively encouraging him to go so we can play losers like Oliver ****ing Skipp and Hamza ****ing Choudhury the club deserves liquidation Especially when any profit made on Page will go straight into the pockets of these players because of their insane wages. 1
deep blue Posted 24 August Posted 24 August What does "wants to play a more defensive style" actually mean? I can't envisage a more defensive style of football than that currently played by Martin, in the sense that most of his passing style seems to be around our own penalty box and he seems to loathe the ball being passed forwards.
sm1 Posted 24 August Posted 24 August Russell is a disastrous appointment for alot of reasons, but getting rid of one of our best young players, I didn't expect that. Top and Rudkin really are on a mission to ruin us.
VLC86 Posted 24 August Posted 24 August 7 hours ago, ClaphamFox said: This bit doesn’t really make sense. Nothing in Martin’s career, nor his time with us so far, suggests he would want to play a more defensive style of football. He very likely wants better defenders who can play the way he wants, but that does not equate to adopting a more defensive style (which for Martin would amount to abandoning his entire football philosophy). Why have we been signing so many attackers if that’s the plan? Page may well have supported Man Utd since a kid and the club may well have treated him poorly (that’s entirely believable), but this stuff about Martin not wanting him doesn’t really stack up—Page is exactly the kind of player Martin likes. The bit where it does stack up, is that he is choosing Braybrooke and Skipp ahead of him. In the context of, in that position I want to be a bit more defensive, with Alves and Burns out wide I think it makes perfect sense and adds up.
LCFCCKEANO Posted 24 August Posted 24 August 25 minutes ago, VLC86 said: The bit where it does stack up, is that he is choosing Braybrooke and Skipp ahead of him. In the context of, in that position I want to be a bit more defensive, with Alves and Burns out wide I think it makes perfect sense and adds up. I think it’s Braybrooke/Choudhury. They seem to be Martins favoured options in that role, then Skipp and I’d assume new lad for the 6. He seems to value the defensive side over anything in that role, which is probably not Page’s strongest suit. Would be clinically insane to sell him mind you, way things are going especially with how Cullen has looked you’d think he’ll be in with a shout very soon at that role if he can’t do the defensive side of the other 1
Hales Posted 24 August Posted 24 August Page needs the fans support to show this is ridiculous from RM and the club. Sing his name loud and big cheers....... 3
Bert Posted 24 August Posted 24 August 22 minutes ago, LCFCCKEANO said: I think it’s Braybrooke/Choudhury. They seem to be Martins favoured options in that role, then Skipp and I’d assume new lad for the 6. He seems to value the defensive side over anything in that role, which is probably not Page’s strongest suit. Would be clinically insane to sell him mind you, way things are going especially with how Cullen has looked you’d think he’ll be in with a shout very soon at that role if he can’t do the defensive side of the other You can understand why Choudhury was brought on at 2-0 down with 10 men ahead of Page surely? For his limitations Hamza will actually at least try and put his foot in. 2
FoxesWalk Posted 24 August Posted 24 August Page is worth a decent amount of money for our level, and for that reason alone he will be sold 1
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