smudger63 Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 What? he ruled as Wales boss. Blackburn 1st season he was tasked with keeping them up, which he did & got to the FA cup semi final too 2nd season he finished in the top 6 & got to league cup semis, qualified for europe 3rd season in top 10 & got to the fa cup semis again ManCity is a strange one, he wasn't successful there - I think the billions complicated things and it was always obvious he wasn't favoured by the new owners who took over shortly after him He finished 8th with Fulham & qualified for Europe before quitting through them apparently lacking ambition, ie they wouldn't sign players he wanted or something All in all I'll be happy with top half Prem finishes and cup semi finals & regular european trips, wouldn't you? Well lets hope our owners money doesn`t complicate things then! As for top half premier finishes, he would have to get us there first, and he has no experience of this division. He left Fulham cos he thought he would get the Villa job, but then found they didn`t want him, and used the Fulham lacking ambition, as an excuse so he didn`t lose face. If he gets the job here, fair enough, i just hope he doesn`t waste money on any more Jo`s!!
Tielemans63 Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 Fourth Official (aka Toffee Fox) got 99% of transfers right over the summer before they were know elsewhere, the only one messed up seemed to be Wayne Routledge. From their record they're not just 'someone' spouting something vaguely believable, although they could of course be wrong here, we'll probably know more on Monday & I'm sure whoever it is will be in the stands. on Tuesday & introduced to the fans next week Vs Leeds I wasn't saying that was the case in this instance. It's just frustrating me that there are 3 managers we are supposed to be in talks with right now so someone, somewhere is just making shit up. Perhaps I shouldn't have put it in this thread as it wasn't an attack on Toffee Fox or Bert I was genuinely asking whether fourth official was reliable or another of the many bullshitters who Twitter. No offence was intended.
Guest Col city fan Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 I wasn't saying that was the case in this instance. It's just frustrating me that there are 3 managers we are supposed to be in talks with right now so someone, somewhere is just making shit up. Perhaps I shouldn't have put it in this thread as it wasn't an attack on Toffee Fox or Bert I was genuinely asking whether fourth official was reliable or another of the many bullshitters who Twitter. No offence was intended. You put it better than I did Paddy...I'll adopt your more PC version, if I may...
Tielemans63 Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 You put it better than I did Paddy...I'll adopt your more PC version, if I may... You can but I liked your less PC version!
Guest parky0607 Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 Fourth Official (aka Toffee Fox) got 99% of transfers right over the summer before they were know elsewhere, the only one messed up seemed to be Wayne Routledge. From their record they're not just 'someone' spouting something vaguely believable, although they could of course be wrong here, we'll probably know more on Monday & I'm sure whoever it is will be in the stands. on Tuesday & introduced to the fans next week Vs Leeds Fourth official generally is the most reliable however he also said the bamba to blackburn move was 'definately happening' when there was never actually anything in it. Dont say 'definately' unless you know its 100% fact.
cc_star Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 Well lets hope our owners money doesn`t complicate things then! As for top half premier finishes, he would have to get us there first, and he has no experience of this division. He left Fulham cos he thought he would get the Villa job, but then found they didn`t want him, and used the Fulham lacking ambition, as an excuse so he didn`t lose face. If he gets the job here, fair enough, i just hope he doesn`t waste money on any more Jo`s!! Me too, we've got enough them in the in the form of Beckford, Danns, SSL, Ball and a few other questionables too
Petchy Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 I can't believe what I've read in this topic. Some of you are actually trying to take digs at Bert etc. for possible information regarding your football club? Whether it has been right or wrong, he hasn't made you believe him. It was your own choice whether to believe the tid--bits of info or not. Oh, and Bert's not the one 'making a twat out of himself', its the regular moaners on here that are doing that all by themselves. You want to know definitive answers? Well wait for OS info then, because you'll find that any forum thrives on speculation and discussion of differed opinions, not 'facts'.
Bryn Posted 29 October 2011 Posted 29 October 2011 Can everyone stop whining about Bert, and all the other ITKs please? Regardless of which side of the argument, it's ****ing irrelevant and irritating.
Ross 'LCFC' Turner Posted 30 October 2011 Posted 30 October 2011 Mark Hughes was in my top 3 choices. He somehow transformed Blackburn into a european side finishing 7th. Had a solid season with an average Manchester City side finishing 10th and then laid the foundations for their side now signing Barry, Lesscott, Tevez etc. And lead an average Fulham side to an 8th place finish. Would surely be a big enough name over in Thailand, Would be the kind of man to get the team fired up and given them an earful if things arent going to plan, surely a big enough name to attract big players to the club too. No brainer for me if O'Neil isnt interested & the owners arent keen on Billy Davies.
Thracian Posted 30 October 2011 Posted 30 October 2011 If one thing has proven to be true over the last few days it's the absolute bollox that gets posted on this forum about who may or may not be coming Sundry individuals claiming to know who's in talks and who's gonna sign as the next manager etc etc Does anybody really know anything much about this? Heres a tip: Post something if and when you actually know something to be true. If you don't really know, wait until you do and stop making yourselves look a twat.. Only today we must have been 'in talks' with three different possibles! In the same day! That might be a well-meant tip but If people waited to post only facts on here I doubt the site would exist. Speculation and debate are the lifeblood of football forums, irriitating as it might be sometimes.
STUHILL Posted 30 October 2011 Posted 30 October 2011 Would be more than happy with Mark Hughes!!! Rarely see the guy smile but I think we need a guy like that around again as I get the feeling it may have been too cosy for some players under Sven!! He has had success pretty much everywhere he has been and would be a real coup for Leicester as I see him as a Premiership Manager! I am sceptical though as I think if Fulham werent ambitious enough for him, will Leicester be?? I'm not sure what King Power are planning or able to do in terms of money when we get to the Prem, so I guess if he is really in talks, then this will be his first question!! I can't see him being interested unless we want to be pushing for top 8 finishes in the Prem COme on TOP, get it done!!!!
MPH Posted 30 October 2011 Posted 30 October 2011 Fourth official generally is the most reliable however he also said the bamba to blackburn move was 'definately happening' when there was never actually anything in it. Dont say 'definately' unless you know its 100% fact. OR it definitely was happening at the time of him writing it only for there to be a last minute change of mind by someone somewhere... You'd be surprised at how many transfers fall through at the last minute..
Walsho Posted 30 October 2011 Posted 30 October 2011 It really does make me laugh when i read people actually questioning the appointment of someone like Mark Hughes. I really do believe that since the appointment of Sven and the takeover from Top & Co plus the money injection we have got far too big for our boots and have been living in some sort of fairytale! Don't get me wrong its been great being constantly linked to players and splashing the cash, but since Svens sacking i think its time to have a reality check and come back down to earth. Are people really questioning the appointment of Mark Hughes???? 2 seasons ago we couldnt even dream of having someone like that at the helm. The guy has a proven track record and has a management style that we desperatley need. I'm not claiming to be Bert number 2 but i do know alot of the players and get alot info and trust me when i say this.....we need a disciplinarian that can motivate the players and sort out certain problems in the dressing room.....i believe that Mark Hughes is the man for the job. I've seen the rumours that were posted earlier and i really do hope that they are true about Hughes although from what ive heard it seems a certainty that its going to be Clark. One thing i do know is that whoever gets the job, we need to get behind them and the players 100%. We have one of the best squads in this division and just need someone to steady the ship and MOTIVATE the team. We're all feeling frustrated at the minute but KEEP THE FAITH and BELIEVE!!!
fox_favourite Posted 30 October 2011 Posted 30 October 2011 For me Mark Hughes would be a cracking manager here. Especially as we have seen some egos clashing on the pitch. He kind of reminds me of a Pearson type. Takes no nonsense and will get the players playing for him. If Beckford had another strop he would be the type of person who wouldnt stand for it. Also I imagine the younger players will respect him as well as hes been there done at player level & at manager level but while still being quite young as a manager But like someone else has pointed out, will our club have enough ambition for him not only to come, but to convince him to drop a league. I see him as a prem manager. Interesting if true, it'll show real intent by the owners
Nick Posted 30 October 2011 Posted 30 October 2011 My, this get on my nerves. Some people on this forum are such short sighted dicks. This forum is great because we do actually have some people with contacts inside the club. It doesn't make their information gospel because it's second hand and subject to change. If you don't want to read alleged inside gossip about the club - don't come on the forum. There are clearly a number of posters who are full of nonsense. Bert and Fourth Official are not, they have both provided us with sustained and valuable info though sometimes things have not happened as they predicted - but that's not their fault, they post what they can say and what they get told, not what they make up. And for all you lot out there who have never met Bert - guess what, he's not some whiny little lad that spouts rubbish for friends and attention. Bert has enough friends - if you don't want to be one of them, that's fine but don't come on to the forum having a go - over the years we've lost some decent posters because of this kind of activity by short sighted and impatient pricks. I'd rather read Bert's musings all day long than the uninformed, repetitive and speculative dross posted by those criticising him. Wind your necks in. N.
Earlydoorsjones Posted 30 October 2011 Posted 30 October 2011 Anyone would be better than Keegan. Bang on Webbo. I fear Keegan anywhere near a Leicester team sheet selection... ...on his own. If he were to be a Director of Football with Lee Clarke as Manager, I could sleep at night though, if only because Clarke is sane enough to know that the goalie's primary objective is not to attack. I also fear Keegan as manager because he has imploded on a number of occasions (England vs. Germany... the "I would love it" rant... and there was a slight wobbly at Man City). Keegan's era as manager was in the 90's. Hughes would be a better option for us today. Still, I think the bookies favour Keegan and Clarke for City now.
teblin Posted 30 October 2011 Posted 30 October 2011 That might be a well-meant tip but If people waited to post only facts on here I doubt the site would exist. Speculation and debate are the lifeblood of football forums, irriitating as it might be sometimes. Agreed! It is not often I say that to one of your posts! But as you say forums are all about opinions and this place wouldn't be the same without them. Infect it would be pointless.
seenitall Posted 30 October 2011 Posted 30 October 2011 If you look at win ratios (and they don't do a chart for win ratios whilst playing Brazil 1970 style football) then Sparky's career comes up with 41.09% Keegan is 50.47% Pearson hit 51.4% while managing City in Div 3 but is only 37.1% at Hull (bit crap) Sven was only 43.64% at City but has overall a better record than all the names being bandied about for us at 51.71% (which is better than Pearson's best for us and he managed some proper teams in proper divisions) O Neill is the winner here with 53.08% but he turned us down Facts don't lie Whatever way you want to dress this up - and unattractive football now seems the main reason - sacking Sven was a major balls up by Top, especially with no one out there to take over PS Lee Clark is 50.31% but in a really crap division
Guest Col city fan Posted 30 October 2011 Posted 30 October 2011 My, this get on my nerves. Some people on this forum are such short sighted dicks. This forum is great because we do actually have some people with contacts inside the club. It doesn't make their information gospel because it's second hand and subject to change. If you don't want to read alleged inside gossip about the club - don't come on the forum. There are clearly a number of posters who are full of nonsense Bert and Fourth Official are not, they have both provided us with sustained and valuable info though sometimes things have not happened as they predicted - but that's not their fault, they post what they can say and what they get told, not what they make up. And for all you lot out there who have never met Bert - guess what, he's not some whiny little lad that spouts rubbish for friends and attention. Bert has enough friends - if you don't want to be one of them, that's fine but don't come on to the forum having a go - over the years we've lost some decent posters because of this kind of activity by short sighted and impatient pricks. I'd rather read Bert's musings all day long than the uninformed, repetitive and speculative dross posted by those criticising him. Wind your necks in. N. Crawl out of your own arsehole Nick... With some of the offensive posts you make, knocking others views at your earliest opportunity, you are in no position to take an 'Holyer than thou' stance over anything very much.. With regard to Bert, I don't profess to know Bert, don't want to be Berts 'friend' (where you get some of your thoughts from God only knows) and was not having a personal attack against Bert or anyone else. I believe I called Bert a legend on here, only yesterday, something which, of course, you conveniently forget because it doesnt sit nicely with the point you are making. All I was saying yesterday, as well you know, is that the volume of speculation that has come out on here for days has been frustrating.. MON got my hopes up, to be let down again... Keegan, Hughes, now Strachan.. It would appear that there may be some wumming going on, which if true, is sad.. And it's difficult to sort the fact from the fiction Pardon me for bringing this up Nick! I can see through you for what you actually are, as I always have been able to.. looking to shit-stir as soon as you can So your post was not unexpected..
roblcfc84 Posted 30 October 2011 Posted 30 October 2011 Hughes is the perfect man for the job and by far the stand out candidate if indeed MON is not interested. His win ratio is not a fair reflection when you review who he has managed. Did great jobs at Wales, Blackburn and fulham with average sides. Man city may hav been a step to far too early but he undeniably started the wheels in motion for their current success. He will be motivate the lads and has a winning mentality. Sacking Sven was the right decision. He simply underestimated the championship and the complexity of the league. Because we beat watford he assumed the preparation and tactics would suit against millwall. It was clear that a change was needed for that game, Howard if you ask me. I like sven
dannythefox Posted 30 October 2011 Posted 30 October 2011 Hughes is the perfect man for the job and by far the stand out candidate if indeed MON is not interested. His win ratio is not a fair reflection when you review who he has managed. Did great jobs at Wales, Blackburn and fulham with average sides. Man city may hav been a step to far too early but he undeniably started the wheels in motion for their current success. He will be motivate the lads and has a winning mentality. Sacking Sven was the right decision. He simply underestimated the championship and the complexity of the league. Because we beat watford he assumed the preparation and tactics would suit against millwall. It was clear that a change was needed for that game, Howard if you ask me. I like sven What? I wouldn't mind him but he's never perfect he's never played in the league or managed in it. We need someone with championship experience!
muzzy1981 Posted 30 October 2011 Posted 30 October 2011 Hughes is the perfect man for the job and by far the stand out candidate if indeed MON is not interested. His win ratio is not a fair reflection when you review who he has managed. Did great jobs at Wales, Blackburn and fulham with average sides. Man city may hav been a step to far too early but he undeniably started the wheels in motion for their current success. He will be motivate the lads and has a winning mentality. Sacking Sven was the right decision. He simply underestimated the championship and the complexity of the league. Because we beat watford he assumed the preparation and tactics would suit against millwall. It was clear that a change was needed for that game, Howard if you ask me. I like sven
cc_star Posted 30 October 2011 Posted 30 October 2011 If you look at win ratios (and they don't do a chart for win ratios whilst playing Brazil 1970 style football) then Sparky's career comes up with 41.09% Keegan is 50.47% Pearson hit 51.4% while managing City in Div 3 but is only 37.1% at Hull (bit crap) Sven was only 43.64% at City but has overall a better record than all the names being bandied about for us at 51.71% (which is better than Pearson's best for us and he managed some proper teams in proper divisions) O Neill is the winner here with 53.08% but he turned us down Facts don't lie Whatever way you want to dress this up - and unattractive football now seems the main reason - sacking Sven was a major balls up by Top, especially with no one out there to take over PS Lee Clark is 50.31% but in a really crap division , proves nothing. A lot of Sven's wins were when he bought consecutive league titles for example spending quarter of a billion pounds to buy the Italian league or in a milion no name England friendlies. Sparky did wonders with Wales & saved Blackburn from relegation in his 1st season beforw going on to finish 6th in his second You see figures are nothing without context You're right though Top did balls up, but that was in appointing Sven in the 1st place & secondly giving him upto £20m to spunk up the wall in transfer fees, signing fees & unsustainable wages & leaving us with a team of under-achievers on upto 4 year contracts... You see for every Nugent there's a Beckford or for every Kasper there's an SSL or for every Peltier there's a Danns, or for every great signing there's a shit under-performer & the juries still out on people like Mills, Konch & others too. I can't wait for someone of O'Neill's, Sparky's or Davies mentality to come & sort this shower of shit out But add context to stats, it's the only thing that makes them worthwhile.
iancognito Posted 30 October 2011 Posted 30 October 2011 If you look at win ratios (and they don't do a chart for win ratios whilst playing Brazil 1970 style football) then Sparky's career comes up with 41.09% Keegan is 50.47% Pearson hit 51.4% while managing City in Div 3 but is only 37.1% at Hull (bit crap) Sven was only 43.64% at City but has overall a better record than all the names being bandied about for us at 51.71% (which is better than Pearson's best for us and he managed some proper teams in proper divisions) O Neill is the winner here with 53.08% but he turned us down Facts don't lie Whatever way you want to dress this up - and unattractive football now seems the main reason - sacking Sven was a major balls up by Top, especially with no one out there to take over PS Lee Clark is 50.31% but in a really crap division Winning 50% of your games in the Prem isn't a bed record, Pearson's 37% at Hull is partly because he didn't have what he could call his own team there till about halfway through the season. You can prove anything with stats though and given that all these stats are different divisions and different seasons/time periods they're meaningless
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