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Yep, that. Beckford could be a 20 goal man in a year we need two strikers scoring.

[Raw Dykes]

Just because you have an off season doesnt mean the next will be the same. Him and Nugent have signs of a good partnership, maybe with the addition of a few more midfielders he will flourish... but your probably right lets just stick with waggy and schlupp

That's the choice, is it? Either keep Beckford, or pick Waghorn or Schlupp? For one thing, as Babylon said, I reckon both Waghorn and Schlupp could have scored more than Beckford did if they'd played as many minutes as Beckford did. For another, we can buy players, you know? We can buy a striker who can score 9 league goals for a lot less than Beckford cost, and pay them a fraction of his wages.

He's meant to be our main goalscorer, he scored in 7 league games all season, and costs £30k a week!

Signs of a good partnership? What signs?

You say he's had an off season, but why should we gamble on him suddenly improving drastically next season? It's far too big a risk, when we could so easily replace him. It's just as likely he'll be just as disappointing again, or worse. As Legend_in_blue says, I'll be shocked if a PL club wants him, and we'd have to be mental to reject an offer. If anyone offers us any sort of fee, we should snap their hands off. His wages could be so better spent on 2 or 3 good players, and it would cost a lot to terminate his contract, so for another club to do that for free would be great. To get a million or two on top of that, and we'd be pissing our pants laughing.

[NewburyFox]

So his 15 in 44 games is so much worse than Nugents 15 in 42, why? A goal is a goal.... Nugent was playing in these cup games too. I love how when somebody dislikes a player they will do things to make them seem worse such as ruling out cup goals. He was a slow starter there is no disputing that but under Pearson he drastically improved. Really dont see how fans can be so fickle that they wouldnt give someone as talented as Beckford a second chance to prove himself. Give him a pre season see how he comes along

Not this.

He wasn't a slow starter, he was a non-starter until mid-January when he bagged that hattrick against a dreadul Forest side. 'Drastically improved' is pushing it to the absolute limit. He had a good spell from mid-January until mid-March, apart from that he has been dreadful, including under Pearson. How is it fickle to not want to give him another chance? He had a whole season, that's more than enough time to prove yourself. If his footballing ability was better I'd be willing to give him another chance, but he has one of the worst first touches I've ever seen, doesn't hold the ball up, doesn't challenge for headers and gives the ball away time and again with fancy flicks.

After 6 years in professional football without improving his footballing ability, why the hell would he this summer?

[80footgiraffe]

Not this.

He wasn't a slow starter, he was a non-starter until mid-January when he bagged that hattrick against a dreadul Forest side. 'Drastically improved' is pushing it to the absolute limit. He had a good spell from mid-January until mid-March, apart from that he has been dreadful, including under Pearson. How is it fickle to not want to give him another chance? He had a whole season, that's more than enough time to prove yourself. If his footballing ability was better I'd be willing to give him another chance, but he has one of the worst first touches I've ever seen, doesn't hold the ball up, doesn't challenge for headers and gives the ball away time and again with fancy flicks.

After 6 years in professional football without improving his footballing ability, why the hell would he this summer?

Amen brother.

Nugent gives 110% every game, while when JB plays, something about him seems labourious, and his first touch is a serious issue. With Vardy and waggy here, I think we have better. Nugent was a ball winner and played throughout the field a lot more

[5waller5]

That's the choice, is it? Either keep Beckford, or pick Waghorn or Schlupp? For one thing, as Babylon said, I reckon both Waghorn and Schlupp could have scored more than Beckford did if they'd played as many minutes as Beckford did. For another, we can buy players, you know? We can buy a striker who can score 9 league 14 goals for a lot less than Beckford cost, and pay them a fraction of his wages.

He's meant to be our main goalscorer, he scored in 7 league games all season, and costs £30k a week!

Signs of a good partnership? What signs?

You say he's had an off season, but why should we gamble on him suddenly improving drastically next season? It's far too big a risk, when we could so easily replace him. It's just as likely he'll be just as disappointing again, or worse. As Legend_in_blue says, I'll be shocked if a PL club wants him, and we'd have to be mental to reject an offer. If anyone offers us any sort of fee, we should snap their hands off. His wages could be so better spent on 2 or 3 good players, and it would cost a lot to terminate his contract, so for another club to do that for free would be great. To get a million or two on top of that, and we'd be pissing our pants laughing.

Yes, because there is only Leicester City that are after a 20 goal a season striker. No other team in the division has cottoned on to the contribution that would make to a promotion push. Daft really that it's only us that's thought of it!! It must be why 20 goal a season strikers are in such rich supply!!!

[Happy Fox]

Does a 20 goal striker guarantee promotion? of course not it is a team game you only have to look at Reading to see this. Even 2 15 goal strikers ( Nugent + Beckford) plus the midfield chipping in we should be fine.

[Raw Dykes]

Yes, because there is only Leicester City that are after a 20 goal a season striker. No other team in the division has cottoned on to the contribution that would make to a promotion push. Daft really that it's only us that's thought of it!! It must be why 20 goal a season strikers are in such rich supply!!!

Beckford is not a 20 goal a season striker, but he costs a lot more than one.

As I've said before, if you're happy with 9 league goals from a striker all season, we can go out and get one for a lot cheaper, who'll cost a fraction of his wages, or two or three of them for the same price as one Beckford. If you really want a "big name" player who costs £30k a week, then fine, but why the fvck don't you expect them to be among the division's top scorers? Why are you happy to see such an expensive striker score so few goals and play so badly so often?

We need a striker who scores in important matches. Beckford scored in only seven of our 46 league matches, and that is one of the main reasons for our disappointing season. I know he scored a few in cup matches, but you've got to ask yourself why he couldn't do that in the league - the only competition that was important to us. Pressure, maybe?

[Lambert09]

That's the choice, is it? Either keep Beckford, or pick Waghorn or Schlupp? For one thing, as Babylon said, I reckon both Waghorn and Schlupp could have scored more than Beckford did if they'd played as many minutes as Beckford did. For another, we can buy players, you know? We can buy a striker who can score 9 league goals for a lot less than Beckford cost, and pay them a fraction of his wages.

He's meant to be our main goalscorer, he scored in 7 league games all season, and costs £30k a week!

Signs of a good partnership? What signs?

You say he's had an off season, but why should we gamble on him suddenly improving drastically next season? It's far too big a risk, when we could so easily replace him. It's just as likely he'll be just as disappointing again, or worse. As Legend_in_blue says, I'll be shocked if a PL club wants him, and we'd have to be mental to reject an offer. If anyone offers us any sort of fee, we should snap their hands off. His wages could be so better spent on 2 or 3 good players, and it would cost a lot to terminate his contract, so for another club to do that for free would be great. To get a million or two on top of that, and we'd be pissing our pants laughing.

If you read my post which Babs was replying to you would see I said "This is only worth doing if we have a suitable replacement lined up".

For all we know Vardy may have been Beckfords replacement all along and Waghorn and Schlupp are the back ups. I would personally like to see one of those 2 go out on loan if not both, so hope we bring someone else in.

As previously stated I would like to give him a pre season but the way the fans have written him off already he's probs best to move somewhere he will be appreciated. I am by no means his biggest fan and I know he has a lot of faults... but surely you can see that on his day he is unstoppable? There will be a manager out there who could get him to do that regularly, I feel Pearson could be that man but it looks like we will never know

[lestajigs]

With the addition of him being able to control a football and give a shit he might flourish.

Sorry where did I mention Waghorn and

Schlupp? But seeing as you bring them up, given the number of minutes he had I wager

they also could have reached 9 league goals.

Beckford is a better player then waghorn or schlupp,

[yorkie1999]

Thing about Beckford and bamba for whatever their faults, they are exciting players to watch. Everyone thinks bamba is a bombscare and maybe he is, but when he runs through the middle with the ball, you''ve got to admit its exciting to watch, same as Beckford, when he gets the ball you always think something's gonna happen. Sure np going to replace them because they don't fit into his regimented style of play that every player has a job and as long as they do their job everything will go to plan, but IMO if other clubs want these players surley they have something about them.

[Out Foxed]

Beckford is a better player then waghorn or schlupp,

then waghorn or schlupp do what?

[LCFC_FAN_1995]

Beckford is a better player then waghorn or schlupp,

What makes you think that then.

[Bert]

What makes you think that then.

Goals

[Poakey]

The fact he's only being linked to Premier League teams tells you he's quality, unfortunatly he just didnt settle into our team.

[Uncle Phil]

Does a 20 goal striker guarantee promotion? of course not it is a team game you only have to look at Reading to see this. Even 2 15 goal strikers ( Nugent + Beckford) plus the midfield chipping in we should be fine.

True, both Beckford and Nugent got more than Readings top scorer who only had 12. Promotion's about having a solid team, yes a 20 goal man is a bonus but it's not the be all and end all.

[Guest ttfn]

Does a 20 goal striker guarantee promotion? of course not it is a team game you only have to look at Reading to see this. Even 2 15 goal strikers ( Nugent + Beckford) plus the midfield chipping in we should be fine.

How are the midfield supposed to chip in when the centre forward is incapable of retaining possession with his back to goal?

[nickelbyfox]

How are the midfield supposed to chip in when the centre forward is incapable of retaining possession with his back to goal?

He plays of the last man using his pace, if you want a target man then get rid of him.

I just dont think the answer is selling Beckford now, he has had a season in the championship, build the squad, have a good pre-season and lets see how NP wants to play and how we dot it! If we need to sell him to balance the books, or a big offer comes in sell him, if not wait until end of august or January to ship him on, having given him a chance.

[Guest ttfn]

He plays of the last man using his pace, if you want a target man then get rid of him.

Well exactly. If we play to suit his style, Beckford will have to score A LOT of goals, because it sure as hell doesn't facilitate the possibility of goals from midfield.

The reason Reading were able to get goals from all over the pitch towards the end of the season was that Roberts worked the channels and held the ball up well, allowing others the time to get in the box

[dave_the_fox]

If a premiership club come in for him then he's not going to stay anyway

[lestajigs]

What makes you think that then.

Errrrrrrrrr probally by going to watch them!!

[Babylon]

Beckford is a better player then waghorn or schlupp,

And yet Waghorn scored more league goals than him playing fro the bench for half of the season.

[Babylon]

So his 15 in 44 games is so much worse than Nugents 15 in 42, why? A goal is a goal.... Nugent was playing in these cup games too. I love how when somebody dislikes a player they will do things to make them seem worse such as ruling out cup goals. He was a slow starter there is no disputing that but under Pearson he drastically improved. Really dont see how fans can be so fickle that they wouldnt give someone as talented as Beckford a second chance to prove himself. Give him a pre season see how he comes along

So his 15 in 44 games is so much worse than Nugents 15 in 42, why? A goal is a goal.... Nugent was playing in these cup games too. I love how when somebody dislikes a player they will do things to make them seem worse such as ruling out cup goals. He was a slow starter there is no disputing that but under Pearson he drastically improved. Really dont see how fans can be so fickle that they wouldnt give someone as talented as Beckford a second chance to prove himself. Give him a pre season see how he comes along

How many points did his cup goals get us? How many games did he actually score in last year? Can he actually control a football? Have a said I won't give him a second chance?

[cc_star]

How are the midfield supposed to chip in when the centre forward is incapable of retaining possession with his back to goal?

Exactly! Either 10 players change to suit 1 player who's pretty handy if he feels like it & the wind is blowing in the right direction, or we change the one player for the benefit of the team.

Lets face it, Beckford needs to be scoring up in the high 20's in the league, because the midfield sure as hell ain't going to weigh in with too many with him losing possession 9 times out of 10.

Add that to potential FFP issues with the premier league wage our opportunities to get our money back may diminish over time.

[5waller5]

Beckford / Bamba it doesn't matter .... Big Nige will get rid .... they are exciting to watch and have the potential to be brilliant and then awful in the same game. Consistently average is where it's at for NP - so there'll be no place for anyone with the ability to turn a game.

I just wish someone had told Beckford that only league goals count for Leicester fans when criticising a player that's not always average ... he really wasted his time scoring in the cup.

[Jaspa]

Beckford / Bamba it doesn't matter .... Big Nige will get rid .... they are exciting to watch and have the potential to be brilliant and then awful in the same game. Consistently average is where it's at for NP - so there'll be no place for anyone with the ability to turn a game.

I just wish someone had told Beckford that only league goals count for Leicester fans when criticising a player that's not always average ... he really wasted his time scoring in the cup.

You cant say all Pearsons signings have been consistently average when he brought in Marshall.

Some of his Hull signings where abit risky too