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The Plantagenet Alliance Vs Leicester re Richard III

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These absolute cretins are just kicking up a fuss because Leicester's not seen as a terribly fashionable city. If they'd found him in somewhere like Winchester or Oxford I sincerely doubt these morons, who have had 500 fvcking years to find this man they claim to care about so dearly themselves, would be arsed about him being laid to rest there.

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just to bring into perspective what a bunch of moaning old interfering ***** the so called "Plantagenet Alliance" are, this article sums them up

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-26568666

 

10 men who died in WW1 were found in 2010 and are now being reburied 100 years on, only one of them has been identified and his family traced, they are burring him in a Loo's military grave... are the family bitching and crying because he's not being burried in America where the family are currently living or being burried where he was born or where he wished to be ?.... are they ****! they are getting on with it

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Richard III would have raised an eyebrow at the thought of a public consultation to decide his final resting place, according to a High Court judge.

A two-day judicial review into the exhumation licence which states the 500-year-old king should be reinterred in Leicester concluded today, with a judgement expected within the next few weeks.

The claimants, a group of 15 people calling themselves the Plantaganet Alliance, are arguing the nation should be consulted about where the monarch – who was discovered in 2012 buried beneath a caricon1.png park in the city centre - is reinterred.

This morning, Gerald Clarke, representing the Alliance, spelt out exactly who should be asked about the location of the king's reinterment.

Addressing the bench of three High Court judges, he said: “The Queen, Richard's descendants, the Church of England, the Roman Catholic Church, the people of Leicester, the people of York and the national public all have role to play in deciding.”

The Alliance's case is built around dismissing the Ministry of Justice's exhumation licence, held by the University of Leicester, which says he should be buried at Leicester Cathedral.

Mr Clarke argued that the medieval monarch's discovery was “unique” and the public needed to be involved in deciding where in the country he should be reburied.

However, his case was questioned by Mr Justice Ouseley, who said: “I would have thought he [Richard III] would have raised an eyebrow at the thought of a public consultation over where he should be buried.”

A packed courtroom chuckled at the remark.

Mr Clarke replied: “He would probably have two eyebrows if someone had told him he would be buried in Leicester.”

The Alliance's case relies on convincing the bench that a public consultation should be carried out.

However, all three judges – Lady Justice Hallett, Mr Justice Ouseley and Mr Justice Haddon-Cave, all repeated numerous instructions to deliver the submission in a clear and understandable way.

“It's pretty basic stuff to present your case clearly,” said Mr Haddon-Cave.

Eventually, Mr Clarke replied: “We're simplyicon1.png asking the government to have a public consultation.

“Recently on the legal aid proposals there's a public consultation and they're inviting representations from everybody.

“It wouldn't be difficult to formulate a similar process.

Submitting the case for Leicester City Council was Andrew Sharland, who also addressed the court today.

He said the comprehensive list of case law examples yesterday cited by his defence colleague James Eadie – representing the Ministry of Justice - showed there was no legal duty for a wider poll regarding the monarch's reburial.

He said: “It's clear that from the large number of cases cited by my colleague that there is no duty on us or the MoJ to consult and that there's no basis to suggest that any of the defendants have a duty to consult the public.

“It's time to let the remains of Richard III be buried in the beautiful and historic city if Leicester.”

Speaking outside the courtroom after the hearing, the Rev Pete Hobson, of Leicester Cathedral, said: "We have to wait. The case for the licence being upheld has been powerfully and ably presented, and we await the outcome of the review with full respect for the legal processes.

“We remain keen to proceed with our plans for the reinterment of King Richard III with dignity and honour on behalf of the whole nation.”


Read more: http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Decision-king-s-final-resting-place/story-20811945-detail/story.html#ixzz2vxEBrqma

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York does not even have an argument here. They have based their campaign on the fact he spent a lot of time there, they have no proof that it was Richard's desire to be buried in York. If they were that concerned about what could have happened to the remains of him they should have protested when the license was granted to the University of Leicester for the dig.

It also would set a very dangerous archaeological precedent which goes against standard archaeological practice.

Totally agree

They are unbelievable when you think about it. Didn't dip their hands in their pockets to help cover the costs of the dig etc and only want to know now for tourism and revenue reasons

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This is an interesting article  written by a York historian

 

.http://yorkstories.co.uk/concerns-of-kings-richard-iii-york/

 

My favourite part.

 

The Minster looks big and empty because of various repavings, but under its floor are loads of bodies. We can’t just dig them up and shift them out of the way because we need to fit in a king.

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This is an interesting article  written by a York historian

 

.http://yorkstories.co.uk/concerns-of-kings-richard-iii-york/

 

My favourite part.

 

The Minster looks big and empty because of various repavings, but under its floor are loads of bodies. We can’t just dig them up and shift them out of the way because we need to fit in a king.

 

A few very good points.

 

Also some good point on how Leicester has valued its links with Richard II more than York, e.g. pub and street names.

 

I would also say this, if they re-inter him in York Minster the Plantagenet Alliance should pick up the cost.

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yeah,' experts' from the university of Winchester which is a jumpred up FE college. The University of Leicester, on the ohter hand is one of the top 20 in Britain and top 160 in the entire world.

now who do you believe????

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yeah,' experts' from the university of Winchester which is a jumpred up FE college. The University of Leicester, on the ohter hand is one of the top 20 in Britain and top 160 in the entire world.

now who do you believe????

There's a university in Winchester?!!

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  • 1 month later...

 

Leicester has won the legalicon1.png battle to rebury the bones of King Richard III.

After nine-and-a-half nail-biting weeks, the High Court has ruled that the University of Leicester’s exhumation licence - which states the bones will be reinterred at St Martin’s Cathedral - is a valid document.

The announcement was made at Leicester Cathedral this morning in front of a large collection of reporters and television camerasicon1.png.

It means that the city’s grand £1 million reinterment plans, which were originally scheduled for next Friday, can finally get underway with a view to reburying the royal remains sometime next spring.

The ruling comes after a legal challenge from the Plantagenet Alliance, a group of 15 individuals who claim to be related to Richard III, who argued that there should have been a nationwide consultation carried out before deciding Richard III’s final resting place.

A two-day judicial review took place at the High Court in London in March, with the Alliance on one side and the university and Ministry of Justice on the other.

Representatives for the university and MoJ put forwardicon1.png a case which showed they had followed the correct legal procedure when drawing up the exhumation licence and the High Court agreed.

Leicester Cathedral and Leicester City Council can now press ahead with plans to reinter the king’s bones and organise a series of celebratory eventsicon1.png around the unique royal occasion.

Read more: http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-win-battle-bones/story-21132993-detail/story.html#ixzz32WqgXRVv

Read more at http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-win-battle-bones/story-21132993-detail/story.html#uRwjieoRC1my3Lto.99

 

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-win-battle-bones/story-21132993-detail/story.html

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