ian_marshall Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 I thought he played ok yesterday and seemed to put some effort into the game unlike previous displays. However, watching the guy run and chase down a ball is extremely painful. It's like he has an invisible parachute strapped to his back.
TheMightySystem Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 1. My point about us being top was what had actually got there. Replacing a hard working striker with someone else (we are joint top scorers don't forget) would have it's benefits at both ends and like i say, we are far from the finished article defensively either. Do you not think Shinji's style of play gives the opportunity to Vardy and Mahrez to flourish? It's no coincidence that they are performing better than they ever have whilst Shinji has been playing. 2. I'm sure if Kramaric worked as hard as Shinji then he would definitely be in the team instead of him...It would be a no brainer. 3. Like i say, we are joint top scorer's. Scoring isn't the problem is it? We have only failed to score in 1 Premier League game. I agree that when Shinji gets the ball it does help occasionally in play however too many times he gets the ball and picks the wrong option. Im not saying he is a bad player but as an attacker he needs to do better moving into the final third. If he can find performances like Sunderland and Everton without pinging the ball off his feet with his first touch then he will be a great attacking asset too. I supose its his touch which is the most disapointing thing about him. If you saw my earlier post I suggested that Kram may have been kept out of the side to improve on that area of the game and juding by his cameo against liverpool it would appear to be the case as he was closing down players and busting a gut to help the team. Lets be honest scoring isn't a problem because of 2 players, if either of those players drop form (which they probably will) where will the goals come from. Dont get me wrong I have no problem with the start of the season and am glad we have two of the top scorers in the league but we need a second plan in case Vardy and Mahrez run out of gas. Okazaki dosn't look like scoring many goals, Ulloa needs to find his form again, so why not play Krama from the start of games to get him some confidence and some form, If we score a goal and need to keep a lead then great bring Shinji on, if Kram dosn't score and looks poor after a good solid run of games then it might be the end of his Leicester career but we will never know unless he gets game time. Anyone who says the manager knows best they may be correct but also remember that Van Gal got rid of Hernandez who is scoring for fun while United cant score for toffee. I dont mean to be argumentative by the way I just feel Kram can offer more then Okazaki personally but i respect you opinion if you think otherwise. Getting a penalty in your favour counts as an assist. Remember Goodison Park not so long ago? Ah thought I was forgetting one, just did a quick lazy look on a stat website that said none. Apologies
shade Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 I agree that when Shinji gets the ball it does help occasionally in play however too many times he gets the ball and picks the wrong option. Im not saying he is a bad player but as an attacker he needs to do better moving into the final third. If he can find performances like Sunderland and Everton without pinging the ball off his feet with his first touch then he will be a great attacking asset too. I supose its his touch which is the most disapointing thing about him. If you saw my earlier post I suggested that Kram may have been kept out of the side to improve on that area of the game and juding by his cameo against liverpool it would appear to be the case as he was closing down players and busting a gut to help the team. Lets be honest scoring isn't a problem because of 2 players, if either of those players drop form (which they probably will) where will the goals come from. Dont get me wrong I have no problem with the start of the season and am glad we have two of the top scorers in the league but we need a second plan in case Vardy and Mahrez run out of gas. Okazaki dosn't look like scoring many goals, Ulloa needs to find his form again, so why not play Krama from the start of games to get him some confidence and some form, If we score a goal and need to keep a lead then great bring Shinji on, if Kram dosn't score and looks poor after a good solid run of games then it might be the end of his Leicester career but we will never know unless he gets game time. Anyone who says the manager knows best they may be correct but also remember that Van Gal got rid of Hernandez who is scoring for fun while United cant score for toffee. I dont mean to be argumentative by the way I just feel Kram can offer more then Okazaki personally but i respect you opinion if you think otherwise. Ah thought I was forgetting one, just did a quick lazy look on a stat website that said none. Apologies agreed.
TheMightySystem Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 West Ham and Everton we both won by 1 goal margins. If Shinji didn't score we might have dropped 4 points, so you could argue his goals have got as to the top of the Prem as much as Vardy' have. Anyway, it's not about Kram vs Shinji. Imo every striker in our arsenal needs to add something different to give us options. Vardy is the superstar, Shinji does the Nugent style dogwork, Leo offers a targetman option if we need to go more direct. Kram has yet to find a niche and I think that's why he's struggling. Maybe Kram cant get in because he can play the role vardy does as the star striker. He has very good movement around the box as was shown against totenham last year in the cup. Maybe when Vardy is rested and kram plays uptop with Okazaki/ Ulloa we will be able to see what he really offers the team. I understand about him wining us points I wont deny that and im glad shinji has scored those goals. I was more talking that Kram can score goals when given the opportunity, it was just a shame about the way we where playing back then.
pazzerfox Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 I agree that when Shinji gets the ball it does help occasionally in play however too many times he gets the ball and picks the wrong option. Im not saying he is a bad player but as an attacker he needs to do better moving into the final third. If he can find performances like Sunderland and Everton without pinging the ball off his feet with his first touch then he will be a great attacking asset too. I supose its his touch which is the most disapointing thing about him. If you saw my earlier post I suggested that Kram may have been kept out of the side to improve on that area of the game and juding by his cameo against liverpool it would appear to be the case as he was closing down players and busting a gut to help the team. Lets be honest scoring isn't a problem because of 2 players, if either of those players drop form (which they probably will) where will the goals come from. Dont get me wrong I have no problem with the start of the season and am glad we have two of the top scorers in the league but we need a second plan in case Vardy and Mahrez run out of gas. Okazaki dosn't look like scoring many goals, Ulloa needs to find his form again, so why not play Krama from the start of games to get him some confidence and some form, If we score a goal and need to keep a lead then great bring Shinji on, if Kram dosn't score and looks poor after a good solid run of games then it might be the end of his Leicester career but we will never know unless he gets game time. Anyone who says the manager knows best they may be correct but also remember that Van Gal got rid of Hernandez who is scoring for fun while United cant score for toffee. I dont mean to be argumentative by the way I just feel Kram can offer more then Okazaki personally but i respect you opinion if you think otherwise. Ah thought I was forgetting one, just did a quick lazy look on a stat website that said none. Apologies Hey no problem at all, we all have an opinion. I just feel that Kram & Vardy wouldn't work as well, i'd be happy to be proved wrong but i feel Kram would be better suited to more of a free roll where he can find pockets of space. I think the team would have to change the way they played in order to accommodate him. You are right in saying that we are scoring because of 2 men, but the reason we are scoring in my opinion, is is the sum of the parts also. Do you think we should bring in another striker in jan?
TheMightySystem Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 Hey no problem at all, we all have an opinion. I just feel that Kram & Vardy wouldn't work as well, i'd be happy to be proved wrong but i feel Kram would be better suited to more of a free roll where he can find pockets of space. I think the team would have to change the way they played in order to accommodate him. You are right in saying that we are scoring because of 2 men, but the reason we are scoring in my opinion, is is the sum of the parts also. Do you think we should bring in another striker in jan? Depends I wouldn't see the point of buying a new striker if the current ones haven't all be given a chance to show what they can do. If Kram gets his chance and fails to impress or he goes out on loan then yes. Otherwise I wouldn't because 4 strikers is enough or you will get unhappy players demanding to leave which wont be good for squad harmony. As it stands I think all the strikers do have a role to play, Kram just hasn't been able to show what he can do. Maybe if the rumour of Vardy being out for January is true then Kram could play Vardys role?
lgfualol Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 I didn't realise he was the player that sprinted all the way back at the end of the game to make sure it wasn't 2-0. I never would have imagined him doing that before yesterday. A good sign indeed.
Psihobambi Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 I didn't realise he was the player that sprinted all the way back at the end of the game to make sure it wasn't 2-0. I never would have imagined him doing that before yesterday. A good sign indeed. I read that as 'A good signing indeed' - that would be funny, i mean the fact that one sprint justifies 10 mil, you know ok ill leave.
TheMightySystem Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 I read that as 'A good signing indeed' - that would be funny, i mean the fact that one sprint justifies 10 mil, you know ok ill leave. If that is the sprint that wins us the title on goal difference then your damn right it was 10 million well spent
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 I read that as 'A good signing indeed' - that would be funny, i mean the fact that one sprint justifies 10 mil, you know ok ill leave. For info, he was £7m
Babylon Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 disagree, I never see Okazaki in midfield, always just behind vardy doing very little.Just look at his defensive stats, it's fairly blooming obvious why he's getting picked for certain games. Ranieri knowingly sacrifices a more attacking player for someone who does more tackling and interceptions etc. people calling for Kramaric instead just don't seem to get it's a tactical decision. The flip flopping between Ulloa and Okazaki show that.Kramaric looks more technically gifted, he's probably a more attacking threat. But that's not what is being asked of Okazaki. If Kramaric can match his defensive game he'll get picked, that's why his contribution yesterday was important for him to get more game time, he really put that effort in.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 If Vardy is out I'd rather play Kram than Ulloa, just to have someone more mobile up top. Would be hard to do that to Leo, though, he's been waiting for his chance.
EGBFitness Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 If that is the sprint that wins us the title on goal difference then your damn right it was 10 million well spent But surely it would be the player that actually blocked the shot rather than a player who has ran back!
Jace Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 Kramaric really deserves a chance now, Ulloa has not done enough to warrant a place above him. I'd love to see Vardy, Kramaric and Mahrez get a decent run together
Thracian Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 Getting a penalty in your favour counts as an assist. Remember Goodison Park not so long ago? Goals and assists are what they are whatever, and that includes the penalty assist, but Shinji doesn't produce nearly enough of either. From all I've seen of him so far in The Premiership, he's not fast enough, doesn't stay on his feet enough, doesn't have exceptional control, isn't a particularly good passer, doesn't show any signs of having a good range of shots or good technique in despatching them and isn't tall enough or strong enough to have any great impact in the air. He's busy and committed but not the kind of player to frighten any reasonably competent defenders. Much more of a squad member than a starter from all the evidence so far. Sadly though, Kramaric has offered absolutely no signs of deserving a place ahead of him.
C-man Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 I remember that game against Arsenal last year where Kram, Mahrez and Cambiasso ran them ragged. My overriding emotion that night was I was gutted we only had 11/12 more games to watch them play together. I think he deserves a shot. Would love to watch him with Mahrez, Vardy, Drinkwater and Kante. Now is the time.
Dario79 Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 It's so frustrating never get on the pitch, so he looks like unmotivated when he plays a short time. Ulloa and Shinji with all due respect I think they dream to have his abilities when he plays the ball. I don't know if he deserve a shot because I never see him during the week only Ranieri watches him, but I'm sure he is a good player more than Okazaki.
Ric Flair Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 I am convinced he is going to score on tuesday, this is the start of his career with us.
Fox 4 Life Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 I thought he played ok yesterday and seemed to put some effort into the game unlike previous displays. However, watching the guy run and chase down a ball is extremely painful. It's like he has an invisible parachute strapped to his back. Didn't look bad when he ran 80 yards back to help prevent Liverpool scoring ther second
Tiny earl Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 If Steve Walsh rated him highly enough to recommend him and thought he was worth 9mill. There must be a player there somewhere, I'm optimistic.
turtmcfly Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 ...and isn't tall enough or strong enough to have any great impact in the air. This was especially evident yesterday. I counted seven times in the first half (and I only started counting after I'd noticed a couple of earlier occasions) where his complete inability aerially meant his marker not only won the ball but had time to place his header. I don't expect a striker to do something amazing with a header 30 yards out with his back to goal. What I do want is his marker under pressure such that even if he does win the ball he has little control over where it goes, especially so as we've got Kante in there fighting for the scraps. Ulloa did this - he also won a couple of free kicks from aerial tussles. I know some weren't happy with long balls out of defence but were being out-boxed and to me it felt like a bit of semi-ugly swedging might have a least given us chance to regroup. Someone yesterday mentioned that we started to get the ball up front in the last 25 but Ulloa wasted it, whereas I thought Ulloa coming on meant the ball actually stuck for a while in their half, which made it look like we were getting forward more. I'm not saying Ulloa's right for every game, but yesterday I felt he should have come on at half time at the earliest. As for those saying he can't finish, or he's not up to Premiership standard, surely last year show he is capable at this level - http://www.worldfootball.net/goalgetter/eng-premier-league-2014-2015/
UPinCarolina Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 Kram will be seeing the pitch Tuesday, I have little doubt about that. He showed some signs of life yesterday that can't be discounted given how ragged Vardy has been run lately.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 Kram the man will show his class in these next few games I'm sure
Bettsj2 Posted 27 December 2015 Posted 27 December 2015 Imagine if Kram was Davor Suker and not Bosco Balaban. How happy we would all be!!
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