Alexikokopops Posted 13 June 2015 Posted 13 June 2015 Someone just put your foot through the ball when shooting And as I post that Aluko spanks it off the crossbar
BoyJones Posted 13 June 2015 Posted 13 June 2015 Let's be straight to the point...women's football on the whole is utter crap. They may be desperate to get time on TV and get credibility but the standard is crap. Would any other female sport of such sub standard get any time on TV??? Look at women's tennis-they are great and probably would give their men competitors a good game but these footballers???....Cmon,they have been trying to publicise women's footy for years and it ain't happening in the UK. And this ain't no ism...it's fact...you just too scared to say it!!! Just back with a takeaway, can't believe anybody is wasting a saturday night watching womens football. The above post is spot on.
Carl the Llama Posted 13 June 2015 Posted 13 June 2015 I really don't get all the moaning about quality. When Women's football gets to the stage where players are earning thousands a week then you can start whining that you've chosen to watch a game of football which isn't being played to a Champions League standard of quality. Until the same disgusting amount of money is pumped into producing custom-built athletes for the Women's game, just watch something else and let the rest of us enjoy the intrigue of a different kind of playing field.
Steven Posted 13 June 2015 Posted 13 June 2015 Let's be straight to the point...women's football on the whole is utter crap. They may be desperate to get time on TV and get credibility but the standard is crap. Would any other female sport of such sub standard get any time on TV??? Look at women's tennis-they are great and probably would give their men competitors a good game but these footballers???....Cmon,they have been trying to publicise women's footy for years and it ain't happening in the UK. And this ain't no ism...it's fact...you just too scared to say it!!! .... and at least in another sport where the standard is poor, Rugby, the English women had the gonads to win the tournament.
Alexikokopops Posted 13 June 2015 Posted 13 June 2015 Whatever you say about this it's more enjoyable than the Ireland - England game last Sunday.
Rincewind Posted 13 June 2015 Posted 13 June 2015 Whatever you say about this it's more enjoyable than the Ireland - England game last Sunday. This is true.Some decent stuff/
Carl the Llama Posted 13 June 2015 Posted 13 June 2015 To be fair it's a valid point that the pundits need to stop pretending every last pass that deflects off a defender but still reaches an attacking player is a brilliant piece of football. Then again I was watching that Germany-Norway game with the sick free kick in it yesterday and I thought the lady commentator was being way too critical as if she was a kid that wanted to show off that she knows about football. Sure they'll get better at finding that happy medium ground of sensible punditry soon enough, certainly won't take them long to catch up to male standards of football commentary (I'd kinda hoped they'd already be better than us there but alas).
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 13 June 2015 Posted 13 June 2015 Kirby is the only one who looks like she's played football before. Overall standard is garbage really.
Jimothy Posted 13 June 2015 Posted 13 June 2015 Kirby is the only one who looks like she's played football before. Overall standard is garbage really. Aluko isn't too bad. Probably better than her brother
filbertway Posted 13 June 2015 Posted 13 June 2015 Duggan and Greenwood, my god. Fran kirby looks a right little box of tricks. Shes a female luke freeman.
Jordan Posted 13 June 2015 Posted 13 June 2015 Kirby is the only one who looks like she's played football before. Overall standard is garbage really.She's fantastic. What a creative player.And the way she's worked with Carney when she came on has electrified England. They looked so bland and nervous before, and now they're playing with real passion--and it can't be much of a surprise that Carney just bagged England's 2nd. Carney and Greenwood were inspired substitutions by Mark Sampson.
Stadt Posted 13 June 2015 Posted 13 June 2015 Duggan and Greenwood, my god. Fran kirby looks a right little box of tricks. Shes a female luke freeman.Wow what a ringing endorsement
Xen Posted 13 June 2015 Posted 13 June 2015 2-0 now, England well on top. Should be safe now, Mexico looked lively on the counter so a bit of a safety net is good news.
Jattdogg Posted 13 June 2015 Posted 13 June 2015 My oh my women who cant finish. Say it aint so. Spanish captain missed a golden chance to tie it up. Painful to watch some of the decision making so far (in a lot of the games i've watched)
Jordan Posted 13 June 2015 Posted 13 June 2015 Fran Kirby: - is two feet tall - looks like she cuts her own hair - plays for 2nd division Reading - has an inspirational story about dealing with the death of her mother and quitting the game due to depression - plays the game like she grew up in a São Paulo favela She's such an easy player to like.
Rincewind Posted 13 June 2015 Posted 13 June 2015 If that was men they'd be slowing the game down after going 2-0 up, holding up at the corners etc. They have not learned time wasting tactics yet.
Collymore Posted 15 June 2015 Posted 15 June 2015 Look at women's tennis-they are great and probably would give their men competitors a good game but these footballers???.. Sorry Raj, I have to pick you up on this. Serena Williams would probably not be in the top 1000 of male tennis. I'm not saying they're not talented, it's just all in the power.
ozleicester Posted 17 June 2015 Posted 17 June 2015 Big Games in Group D right now... 84 Mins - Aus v Sweden 1-1 85 mins Nig vs USA 0-1 Ended this way... USA and AUST go through. Aussies face Brazil
Finnegan Posted 17 June 2015 Posted 17 June 2015 http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/33159574 This annoys the absolute piss out of me. Not because I think her point is invalid (though calling people uneducated for challenging the ability of women's footballers is a bit petulant) but because it's news outlets like the BBC that actually keep comparing everything in women's football to the men's game. Videos suggesting things like "anything James Rodriguez can do, Colombian women's footballer can do too!" (que video of James scoring unbelievable world cup goal followed by Colombian woman scoring a Paul Gallagher esque 25 yard hit), dubbing any women's footballer that's pretty good "a Messi" (there's at least two in this WC alone) and "in 1915 more people went to watch a women's game than saw a men's game in 2015!!" etc. Everyone trying to "sell" women's football is doing it by comparing it to the men's game, you can't then complain when negative comparisons are drawn. It's by far the over-sell of women's football that annoys me infinitely more than anything to do with the game itself.
Guest MattP Posted 17 June 2015 Posted 17 June 2015 Imagine being called uneducated by Eniola Aluko, she could barely string a coherent sentence together the last time I heard her.
Jordan Posted 17 June 2015 Posted 17 June 2015 I think Aluko's larger point is perfectly fair, "hypocrisy" and "negative comparisons" aside. Since we all become experts on women's football and sport media once every few years, I'll join in. I'm sure the media is just like the public at large in that they're both looking at the Women's World Cup by comparing it to men's football, but they're doing it from a different side. The media don't really know any other way to talk about women's football than by making silly comparisons to things and persons like Lionel Messi (which is funny because he's virtually incomparable), while your average fan is looking at women's football compared to what he's used to watching and just thinking it's shit. The television coverage of the WWC here couldn't be any more different. I'm sure this is so because when our women's team rose to prominence in 1999, our media was still very much unsophisticated when it came to the sport as a whole. Making comparisons to the men's game was so far beyond the scope of the media coverage because the media didn't know anything about the men's game that they could use as a comparison! And out men's team certainly wasn't going out and challenging to win the World Cup. As for fans, we just let our girls go out there and do their thing. It's great that this generation of players were able to grow up dreaming of being not like Mike, but like Mia or Michelle or Julie or Brandi or Brianna. We can talk about Abby Wambach's goal scoring record on its own terms without useless comparisons to her male counterparts. Alex Morgan, with her skills, good looks, and infinite product endorsements, isn't known as the "female Ronaldo," she's just Alex Morgan. About the only times we get comparisons to the men's game are when anybody mentions Hope Solo's legal troubles, or when we repeat silly European depictions of players as mini Messi or pretty Zlatan or sexy Zidane or whatever.
Carl the Llama Posted 17 June 2015 Posted 17 June 2015 To be fair she's not wrong that it's dumb to hold lack of quality compared to the men's game against women's football. It's like criticising a conference side for not playing like Barcelona. At the end of the day it's a FIFA World Cup so of course there'll be a push towards a wider audience, but it's ridiculous anyone's complaining that it's being 'rammed' down their throats. I've seen nothing about it outside of my time on the internet so it's nowhere near as pervasive as the men's one.
Raj Posted 17 June 2015 Posted 17 June 2015 Sorry Raj, I have to pick you up on this. Serena Williams would probably not be in the top 1000 of male tennis. I'm not saying they're not talented, it's just all in the power. I tell you what, she's built like a brick shithouse and would probably piss on the 99th ranked bloke in the World!!!
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