Guus Hiddink

[Dan LCFC]

I'm not sure why some people can't distinguish between disputing a board decision about Nigel Pearson and getting behind the new manager. You can disagree with the sacking, think it was one of the dumbest, silliest decisions ever and still fall in love with whoever comes next. Just because you recognise the risks associated with Pearson's sacking doesn't mean you don't hope it all works out beautifully.

 

Correct. Don't know what I'd personally gain from Hiddink coming here and failing - being able to say I was right? Not bothered. I'm not paid to get this decision right. I'll just be frustrated at the fact we didn't learn.

[Jace]

Spotted at Morrisons yet?

[GaelicFox]

Ladybirds on harborough road just had an old Dutch man in .....COULD IT BE ????

[johnny the fox]

Ladybirds on harborough road just had an old Dutch man in .....COULD IT BE ????

No mate, that bloke went out the back and took a  s h i t  behind the hedge..Guus ain't done that for several years..

[Bagworthblue]

no surely not.......

 

the ghost of Van Gogh

[Steve Earle]

All very interesting, but what I'd really like to know is why it's spelled 'Guus', not 'Gus'. Anyone know?

[Bagworthblue]

All very interesting, but what I'd really like to know is why it's spelled 'Guus', not 'Gus'. Anyone know?

The Dutch language contains short vowels and long vowels. Vowels are

pronounced short when they are written in single (i.e. a, e, i, o, u)

and when the word contains only one syllable or when the vowel is

followed by at least two consonants. Furthermore, short vowels are

never the last letter in a word. Their pronunciation is described below:

a    is pronounced as in ‘father’.

e    is pronounced as in ‘men’. However, when it is unstressed, it is pronounced as ‘uh’.

i    is pronounced as in ‘him’.

o    is pronounced as in ‘hot’.

u    is not a known sound in English. It is somewhat

pronounced as in ‘her’, where the lips are rounded slightly.

Long vowels are not only pronounced slightly longer than the short

ones, but their sound actually changes. Vowels are pronounced long when

they are written in double (i.e. aa, ee, oo, or uu) or when the word

contains more than one syllable and the vowel is followed by only one

consonant, which is not the final character in the word. Last, the

vowel is pronounced long when the vowel is the last letter of the word.

And exception is the long i, which is always written as ie. The

pronunciation of long vowels described below:

aa/a    is pronounced as a, but it is pronounced longer and ‘lighter’.

ee/e    is pronounced as in ‘may’ when it is not

followed by r. When it is followed by r it is pronounced as in ‘here’.

When it stands at the end of a syllable, it is pronounced as ‘uh’.

ie    is pronounced as in ‘we’.

oo/o    is pronounced as in ‘no’ when it is not followed by r. When it is followed by r it is pronounced as in ‘more’.

uu/u    is not a known sound in English. The sound can be produced by pronouncing the

short u, but by bringing the tongue and lips even more to front.

Last, there are six vowel-combinations and one

consonant/vowel-combination, which truly generate unique sounds. These

sounds are characteristic for the Dutch language. It has to be

admitted, that for non-natives this needs some practice. Remember that

each combination should be pronounced as one single sound.

ai    is pronounced as the English word ‘ I ‘. It should be pronounced as one sound.

ei    is pronounced by pronouncing the sound as it

appears in the English word ‘man’ followed by the Dutch sound ie. It

should be pronounced as one single sound.

ij    is pronounced exactly in the same way as the Dutch ei-sound.

eu    is pronounced by pronouncing the Dutch short u

directly followed by the Dutch long uu. However, when this sound is

followed by an r, the sound it pronounced as the Dutch short u

pronounced twice as long.

oe    is pronounced as in the English word ‘who’.

ui    is pronounced by pronouncing the sound as it appears in the English word ‘man’ followed by the Dutch long u.

uw    is pronounced by pronouncing the Dutch long u followed by the Dutch w.

In order to indicate, that vowels which appear in combination with

other vowels are pronounced seperately, a so-called trema is used on

the final vowel of the combination. The trema are two dots ( ¨ ) which

are written above the vowel. Thus whereas ie is pronounced as one

sound, ië is pronounced by pronouncing each vowel seperately (i.e. i+e).

Sometimes an accent ( ´ ) is written on top of the e (é). This

usually appears on words of foreign origin, and indicates that the

vowel in question is stressed.

When a small accent (apostrophe) between a vowel and a consonant

appears ( ‘ ), the vowel preceding the accent is pronounced long. It is

a grammatical construction, which indicates the plural of a word.

 

 

 

i.e if like German U with Umlaut - it's hard to explain but say goose really quick and you will be close enough

 

well you did ask

[katieakita]

 

The Dutch language contains short vowels and long vowels. Vowels are

pronounced short when they are written in single (i.e. a, e, i, o, u)

and when the word contains only one syllable or when the vowel is

followed by at least two consonants. Furthermore, short vowels are

never the last letter in a word. Their pronunciation is described below:

a    is pronounced as in ‘father’.

e    is pronounced as in ‘men’. However, when it is unstressed, it is pronounced as ‘uh’.

i    is pronounced as in ‘him’.

o    is pronounced as in ‘hot’.

u    is not a known sound in English. It is somewhat

pronounced as in ‘her’, where the lips are rounded slightly.

Long vowels are not only pronounced slightly longer than the short

ones, but their sound actually changes. Vowels are pronounced long when

they are written in double (i.e. aa, ee, oo, or uu) or when the word

contains more than one syllable and the vowel is followed by only one

consonant, which is not the final character in the word. Last, the

vowel is pronounced long when the vowel is the last letter of the word.

And exception is the long i, which is always written as ie. The

pronunciation of long vowels described below:

aa/a    is pronounced as a, but it is pronounced longer and ‘lighter’.

ee/e    is pronounced as in ‘may’ when it is not

followed by r. When it is followed by r it is pronounced as in ‘here’.

When it stands at the end of a syllable, it is pronounced as ‘uh’.

ie    is pronounced as in ‘we’.

oo/o    is pronounced as in ‘no’ when it is not followed by r. When it is followed by r it is pronounced as in ‘more’.

uu/u    is not a known sound in English. The sound can be produced by pronouncing the

short u, but by bringing the tongue and lips even more to front.

Last, there are six vowel-combinations and one

consonant/vowel-combination, which truly generate unique sounds. These

sounds are characteristic for the Dutch language. It has to be

admitted, that for non-natives this needs some practice. Remember that

each combination should be pronounced as one single sound.

ai    is pronounced as the English word ‘ I ‘. It should be pronounced as one sound.

ei    is pronounced by pronouncing the sound as it

appears in the English word ‘man’ followed by the Dutch sound ie. It

should be pronounced as one single sound.

ij    is pronounced exactly in the same way as the Dutch ei-sound.

eu    is pronounced by pronouncing the Dutch short u

directly followed by the Dutch long uu. However, when this sound is

followed by an r, the sound it pronounced as the Dutch short u

pronounced twice as long.

oe    is pronounced as in the English word ‘who’.

ui    is pronounced by pronouncing the sound as it appears in the English word ‘man’ followed by the Dutch long u.

uw    is pronounced by pronouncing the Dutch long u followed by the Dutch w.

In order to indicate, that vowels which appear in combination with

other vowels are pronounced seperately, a so-called trema is used on

the final vowel of the combination. The trema are two dots ( ¨ ) which

are written above the vowel. Thus whereas ie is pronounced as one

sound, ië is pronounced by pronouncing each vowel seperately (i.e. i+e).

Sometimes an accent ( ´ ) is written on top of the e (é). This

usually appears on words of foreign origin, and indicates that the

vowel in question is stressed.

When a small accent (apostrophe) between a vowel and a consonant

appears ( ‘ ), the vowel preceding the accent is pronounced long. It is

a grammatical construction, which indicates the plural of a word.

 

 

or the Dutch just cheat at scrabble.

[Vlad the Fox]

So do I call him goose with a Dutch accent, goosh.

[Bagworthblue]

i'm getting out of my depth, I speak french and german but never took dutch as an option as part of my german degree cos it was too hard so to an extent i'm guessing

[Col city fan]

The Dutch language contains short vowels and long vowels. Vowels are

pronounced short when they are written in single (i.e. a, e, i, o, u)

and when the word contains only one syllable or when the vowel is

followed by at least two consonants. Furthermore, short vowels are

never the last letter in a word. Their pronunciation is described below:

a is pronounced as in ‘father’.

e is pronounced as in ‘men’. However, when it is unstressed, it is pronounced as ‘uh’.

i is pronounced as in ‘him’.

o is pronounced as in ‘hot’.

u is not a known sound in English. It is somewhat

pronounced as in ‘her’, where the lips are rounded slightly.

Long vowels are not only pronounced slightly longer than the short

ones, but their sound actually changes. Vowels are pronounced long when

they are written in double (i.e. aa, ee, oo, or uu) or when the word

contains more than one syllable and the vowel is followed by only one

consonant, which is not the final character in the word. Last, the

vowel is pronounced long when the vowel is the last letter of the word.

And exception is the long i, which is always written as ie. The

pronunciation of long vowels described below:

aa/a is pronounced as a, but it is pronounced longer and ‘lighter’.

ee/e is pronounced as in ‘may’ when it is not

followed by r. When it is followed by r it is pronounced as in ‘here’.

When it stands at the end of a syllable, it is pronounced as ‘uh’.

ie is pronounced as in ‘we’.

oo/o is pronounced as in ‘no’ when it is not followed by r. When it is followed by r it is pronounced as in ‘more’.

uu/u is not a known sound in English. The sound can be produced by pronouncing the

short u, but by bringing the tongue and lips even more to front.

Last, there are six vowel-combinations and one

consonant/vowel-combination, which truly generate unique sounds. These

sounds are characteristic for the Dutch language. It has to be

admitted, that for non-natives this needs some practice. Remember that

each combination should be pronounced as one single sound.

ai is pronounced as the English word ‘ I ‘. It should be pronounced as one sound.

ei is pronounced by pronouncing the sound as it

appears in the English word ‘man’ followed by the Dutch sound ie. It

should be pronounced as one single sound.

ij is pronounced exactly in the same way as the Dutch ei-sound.

eu is pronounced by pronouncing the Dutch short u

directly followed by the Dutch long uu. However, when this sound is

followed by an r, the sound it pronounced as the Dutch short u

pronounced twice as long.

oe is pronounced as in the English word ‘who’.

ui is pronounced by pronouncing the sound as it appears in the English word ‘man’ followed by the Dutch long u.

uw is pronounced by pronouncing the Dutch long u followed by the Dutch w.

In order to indicate, that vowels which appear in combination with

other vowels are pronounced seperately, a so-called trema is used on

the final vowel of the combination. The trema are two dots ( ¨ ) which

are written above the vowel. Thus whereas ie is pronounced as one

sound, ië is pronounced by pronouncing each vowel seperately (i.e. i+e).

Sometimes an accent ( ´ ) is written on top of the e (é). This

usually appears on words of foreign origin, and indicates that the

vowel in question is stressed.

When a small accent (apostrophe) between a vowel and a consonant

appears ( ‘ ), the vowel preceding the accent is pronounced long. It is

a grammatical construction, which indicates the plural of a word.

i.e if like German U with Umlaut - it's hard to explain but say goose really quick and you will be close enough

well you did ask

Are you bored Baggy?

[Bob Weasel Fox]

There's two things in life I hate

1) people's intolerances to other people's culture

2) the Dutch

Of course I jest before any freikoids call me owt

[Steve Earle]

I am most grateful. I'd forgotten all about Wikipedia;)

[Tuna]

Imagine Stringer interviewing him.

[cityfanlee23]

Guus on a 3 year contract

Cambiasso 1 more year as a player,

going assistant manager for 2 more seasons before taking over and winning the league. 

[Sharpe's Fox]

There's two things in life I hate

1) people's intolerances to other people's culture

2) the Dutch

Of course I jest before any freikoids call me owt

Isn't that from Austin Powers 3?

[rico]

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Isn't that from Austin Powers 3?

It is indeed

[Bagworthblue]

Are you bored Baggy?

• 2 years ago grade 3 calf tear training the lads 10 weeks physio - 8 weeks crutches bloody painful
• last year - tore hamstring - grade 2 - 4 weeks crutches - bloody painful
• this am - mild calf strain - not too bad, no crutches but bloody painful
• this PM stuck in, lovely day - bored and in pain 

that's my concise way of saying - too right i'm bored 

[inckley fox]

And yet in the 'Pearson Out' thread you were adamant that his behaviour was totally unacceptable by most employers. What we don't know is what else has been going on for them to make this decision. I couldn't quote it directly for some reason maybe because the thread is closed. Anyhow here are a couple of your paragraphs.

 

 

Of course you're entitled to change your mind but I usually find your posts logical and am surprised by your amended opinion.

 

I think I've been very clear on more than one occasion that my mind was changed, just as many other minds should have been changed. Pearson's challenge last year was to deliver PL safety; when it looked impossible - as in the posts you quoted - I said that it appeared to be the case that he'd failed. And that failing managers can't get away with Mourinho-esque antics as easily as Mourinho, or Pardew, or Wenger, or anyone else who achieves their goals.

 

But of course what followed changed everything. He did become a success, thanks to one of the most incredible resurgences ever seen in football. None of us saw it coming - me neither - and I must have said a thousand times since that it was totally, unequivocally, straightforwardly wrong for me to have said that we were doomed because, evidently, we weren't.

 

With that in mind, and considering that Pearson's moments-of-madness were not those of a failing manager, but those of a manager on the verge of an impressive triumph, I think it's fair to say that in hindsight we shouldn't consider ****-gate or FOAD-gate or strangle-gate as the antics of a failing manager. And this, as these posts you've quoted indicate, changes everything. We can't look back now and say 'this was a failure of a PL manager acting with the arrogance of a successful PL manager', because - as it turns out - he was a perfectly successful PL manager after all.

 

Basically, it's all about admitting you were wrong! Up until this season I thought I had a decent record at being right, but it turns out that - back in February when I last posted, saying that Pearson was an excellent manager who could turn things around, was probably the point at which I should have shut up. He did his job, he did it well, and whether I'm contradicting myself or not, it can't be denied.

[i luv u foxes]

Just a quick note but I have studied hiddinks training sessions for over 8 years (I'm a football coach) and he won't change much in our style of play other than trying to increase the amount of possession we have in games. The guy is a genius in his training sessions and I honestly believe he would bring the best out of us by working with our players day in day out unlike international

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Now Goldmember as the new City manager there's a thought?

At least he knows his keepers . . . . . .

[dayday]

Just a quick note but I have studied hiddinks training sessions for over 8 years (I'm a football coach) and he won't change much in our style of play other than trying to increase the amount of possession we have in games. The guy is a genius in his training sessions and I honestly believe he would bring the best out of us by working with our players day in day out unlike international

To increase possession in games you need the right players,we don't have them.

[st albans fox]

To increase possession in games you need the right players,we don't have them.

Yes and no. Morgan (for example) would be an issue as he struggles when presented with the ball but our style has dictated how we approach possession. Getting men forward quickly means there isn't often an available close pass for the man with the ball . Our movement off the ball in the area where the ball is was woeful last year. That wasn't our tactic and therefore our possession stats weren't so good. Many clubs with worse players than us (technically) manage to play an attractive possession game. Take villa for example - they were one of the best sides to come to us last year if you were just looking at pretty patterns with the ball up to the final third. however, they were clueless in the final third. No intent and no idea. you need to be able to mix it up. We do have the personnel to do both.

[Chrysalis]

yeah some of it is down to the players some of it is down to caching, pearson was never a good posession manager.

 

Sousa was a great possession coach, under him we had players who previously couldnt pass passing it around but of course we was woeful under him defensively and in the final third hence the results.  But he is proof players can become good possession players with the right coaching.

 

With that said, players like vardy thrive on counter attacking football not slow build up play, if guus is capable of coaching counter attack (maybe mixed in with posession to leave opposition teams guessing) then I am all up for it.