Psihobambi Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 It says a lot about the quality of the league he played in when Aberdeen beat rijeka 3-0 in Croatia recently. http://www.uefa.com/news/newsid=2140929.html . Dinamo Zagreb is in CL. It's a pretty bad league, but not as bad as you think. Modric played there, Mandzukic played there, Eduardo played there (idk if you remember him) etc etc. and they all are/were top class players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guvnor Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Kram was a record £9M signing not some championship striker punt,, I know how I would be feeling if an academy player was chosen for the bench instead of me, I think CR has f^cked up on this occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmeh Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Kram was a record £9M signing not some championship striker punt,, I know how I would be feeling if an academy player was chosen for the bench instead of me, I think CR has f^cked up on this occasion. You watch his performances in training then? How would you feel scoring a hat trik in mid week and then not being in the squad the next game. What would that say to the young players? Perform well and you won't get in the squad? He did it for more reasons than you think. Sets a precedent for the young players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Kram was a record £9M signing not some championship striker punt,, I know how I would be feeling if an academy player was chosen for the bench instead of me, I think CR has f^cked up on this occasion. Maybe Ranieri thought that based on his cup performance, Dodoo had earned a spot on the bench. What today's game has clearly shown is that Dodoo isn't quite there yet and needs to work harder on his skills and attitude - just like all players who are part of this squad. You don't get to be picked based on your previous merits only - otherwise, what do you think did Inler do to deserve to be rested for a full 98 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benguin Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Can't be bothered to argue. Still think it's a huge waste of talent and a big mistake if we don't get him in soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 I think he'd understand being dropped for someone that can play as a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmeh Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Can't be bothered to argue. Still think it's a huge waste of talent and a big mistake if we don't get him in soon Where is this talent? Where's the evidence on the pitch? Because he scored a good goal against qpr? What about all the shots he has hit into the crowd. If he was that much of a talent then he would be in the team. You are judging him off youtube playing for a team that recently lost 3-0 at home to Aberdeen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 *this is not an edit, im retarded. (well this is) ((but that before wasn't) . Clear as mud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Heaven forbid Kram came on and did feck all.... Must have missed him ballooning 10 shots over the bar and missing piss easy chances. Oh and it was £7m max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Kramaric will be needed in the future. He's been left out of the squad for one game for a lad who scored a hat-trick in the last game. Why does everything have to be so huge in significance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RokoNZ Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 He's almost done and dusted in my opinion, and I thought that before Doodoo came in. As a Croat I am shocked, and very disappointed. I posted on his Facebook page as soon as Okazaki came in that he should look for a loan move as he looked 4th choice behind Ulloa then. But for a young guy to come in and replace him is insulting, I just hope he can get out in the last days on loan. I can't believe that he's 5th choice at Leicester, that is just incredulous for Croatia's 2nd best striker It is huge significance to Kramaric I'm sure, maybe not you. But put yourself in his shoes and laugh it off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RokoNZ Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Where is this talent? Where's the evidence on the pitch? Because he scored a good goal against qpr? What about all the shots he has hit into the crowd. If he was that much of a talent then he would be in the team. You are judging him off youtube playing for a team that recently lost 3-0 at home to Aberdeen Idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 Where would he go on loan? No chance would he be willing to join a championship team. How would we cope when Shinji and vardy either get injured or hit a bad patch of form? Vardy is great because he has incredible determination, pace and aggression. He is not however the most technically gifted player. Kramaric is clearly talented and has so much potential, he needs game time, he is scoring goals now, Qpr. Pre season, internationals and then Bury. Get him on the pitch and I'm sure hell bag goals. Anywhere he can get quality game time which is what he needs. If he wouldn't go and play in the Championship then he's showing petulance and arrogance, Not good traits to have for any young player learning his trade. Vardy is making the best use of his limited talents. Isn't that what Krameric should be doing. Instead of sulking and feeling sorry for himself. Remember Albrighton last season when he wasn't in the team despite many of us thinking he deserved a chance. Yes he talented on the ball but so are many young players, it's whether he can add that talent to the other aspects of the game that matters. Like movement, defending, passing, shooting. etc. The fact that he's played and scored in a poorer league means very little. Or is an International either. That just means he's the best of what's available. Admittedly his opportunities have been limited. But that's no reason to sulk. He should knuckle down work harder and prove everyone wrong. Things change quickly in Football. We bought potential not the finished article, It's down to him to seize his opportunity when it arrives which I sincerely hope he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggsteam Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 As much as I rate Kramaric and think he has got skills, he has to earn he's place in the team. Being via training or taking his chance when given it. He's a professional player and has to understand it's a team / squad game and only 11 players plus subs will get on the pitch. The season has only just started and he will get his chance to shine. CR put Dodoo on the bench to reward him for his great game and to show everyone else that you play well you get your chance. Which Kramaric will get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanlegend Posted 29 August 2015 Share Posted 29 August 2015 When we signed Kramaric no-one expected him to hit the ground running. It takes a while for players to settle. I think everyone expected him to play more this season as he did OK last year when given the chance. I think Kram will get his chance as will score goals but he needs to ensure he is doing everything he can to get in the team also. I.e. If he is banging goals in training CR can't just ignore him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_marshall Posted 30 August 2015 Share Posted 30 August 2015 I think Kramaric is technically very good, but he clearly lacks the physical attributes that make our team so successful, I.e. pace, power, determination, etc. Yes, he offers something different but it feels to me that we need to change our overall approach to accommodate him. Personally, I don't think he can have any complaints. If he wants to be in the squad let alone the starting eleven he needs to show what he is capable of and I'm afraid to say that despite his limited chances his hasn't ceased the opportunity whenever it's been presented. Hopefully that will change over the course of the season, however it'll be interesting to see how patient he is in waiting for his chance to shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsblueuptnorth Posted 30 August 2015 Share Posted 30 August 2015 He's almost done and dusted in my opinion, and I thought that before Doodoo came in. As a Croat I am shocked, and very disappointed. I posted on his Facebook page as soon as Okazaki came in that he should look for a loan move as he looked 4th choice behind Ulloa then. But for a young guy to come in and replace him is insulting, I just hope he can get out in the last days on loan. I can't believe that he's 5th choice at Leicester, that is just incredulous for Croatia's 2nd best striker It is huge significance to Kramaric I'm sure, maybe not you. But put yourself in his shoes and laugh it off Hes not done and dusted. As soon as vardy and Okazaki need a break, or start to drop in form that's when he will get his chance, and if he takes it will be very hard to keep him out of the team. The lad has ability no doubt about it, he just needs to remain patient and take his opportunity when it arises. If he gets a couple against West Ham in the cup he will start, I just hope he can take his opportunity. Raneiri won't ignore him forever, he's renowned for liking a switch around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CityFan 06 Posted 30 August 2015 Share Posted 30 August 2015 I like Kramaric a lot and think he's a very talented player. Last season we saw glimses of what he can do. He looked sharp and scored a few decent goals. I think he'll stay with us. After Dodoo's hat trick on Tuesday it was understandable that he would make the bench yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 30 August 2015 Share Posted 30 August 2015 What has kramaric done that makes him deserve to go before vardy and Okazaki, you can't compare him to Ulloa as he is a different style of striker e.g taller and can be a target man while kramaric is more like Okazaki and vardy type of striker Exactly what all players do to get this forum excited: Spend ages out of the starting 11 while other players are performing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katieakita Posted 30 August 2015 Share Posted 30 August 2015 First name on the team sheet at the moment is Vardy as an attacker and shinji has done little wrong so far indeed was harsh to be dropped yesterday and helped improve things in the 2nd half yesterday. Krameric hasn't become a bad player overnight but has no right to be picked in the starting 11 at the moment. We have a very long season ahead of us and am sure at some stage he will get his chance then it is up to him to take it. As for Dodoo you score a hat trick and should get a squad place nothing wrong with that, Pearson got slagged off for not giving the youngsters a chance and now some slag off Raneiri for giving them a chance you can't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 30 August 2015 Share Posted 30 August 2015 I like Kramaric a lot and think he's a very talented player. Last season we saw glimses of what he can do. He looked sharp and scored a few decent goals. I think he'll stay with us. After Dodoo's hat trick on Tuesday it was understandable that he would make the bench yesterday. All true enough but three days before the window shuts, you can't help but think when someone who isn't getting a chance doesn't make the bench. tbh, if he is going then would probably be a loan deal with a fee attached. Hopefully without a guaranteed sell on availability. We need four strikers so if no one coming in, they all have to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guvnor Posted 30 August 2015 Share Posted 30 August 2015 You watch his performances in training then? How would you feel scoring a hat trik in mid week and then not being in the squad the next game. What would that say to the young players? Perform well and you won't get in the squad? He did it for more reasons than you think. Sets a precedent for the young players It was against Bury ffs, Kram is a player we were watching for months and struggled to get the deal over the line a record signing to boot. He is a prolific goal scorer but needs to be given a chance surely, anyway there is clearly a camp who thinks it is acceptable to put an academy player on the bench in front of a fully fit Kram, but I ain't one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livid Posted 30 August 2015 Share Posted 30 August 2015 It was against Bury ffs, Kram is a player we were watching for months and struggled to get the deal over the line a record signing to boot. He is a prolific goal scorer but needs to be given a chance surely, anyway there is clearly a camp who thinks it is acceptable to put an academy player on the bench in front of a fully fit Kram, but I ain't one of them. I have to agree with that. As much as I'm for giving youth a chance but to replace the £9 million record signing and Croatian league 1 one leading scorer (Despite only playing half the season) on the bench, disappointed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troop3r Posted 30 August 2015 Share Posted 30 August 2015 It says a lot about the quality of the league he played in when Aberdeen beat rijeka 3-0 in Croatia recently. Spanish League was shit also back in the days,,, Good line of thinking, donk.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 30 August 2015 Share Posted 30 August 2015 Would like to see Kram getting 10-15mins at the end of each game but it's hard to take off either Vardy or Shinji as they offer so much just from their work rate. Hopefully he can be patient and won't request a move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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