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Leicester, Watford and the Community Shield

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No-one outside of Man City, United, Arsenal, Chelsea or Liverpool has won the CS since 1995.

 

In fact, since 1995 (Everton v Blackburn) only three teams (Newcastle 1996, Portsmouth 2008 and Wigan 2013) have been in the Cs outside of those "big five."

 

So they're saying a glorified friendly with the same teams over 20 years is entertaining? The Community Shield is the chance to showcase last season's success stories. Leicester v Watford/West Ham/Everton etc would be a fantastic reiteration of how refreshing and unpredictable this season was. Plus I suspect it'd be a bloody good game too.

 

Unfortunately Mills' opinion will probably mirror that of many floating football fans.

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Danny Mills believes that a Leicester v Watford Community Shield would be less lucrative financially, and would attract less of a global audience, when teams like Manchesters United and City could bring both in quite considerably. He also goes on to say that Leicester wouldn't be able to be competitive in the Champions League because they are Leicester (again, at the expense of bigger, richer clubs).

 

if the game is on sky, then they automatically make money from its current subscribers even if they dont tune into the game, they still pay for the channel.

 

would the money from a typical big name v big name community shield benefit english football significantly or just the teams involved?

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Even Spurs for that matter, trounced by Dortmund, very little CL experience in the squad, can't even beat Leicester, yet nobody is questioning how they will do.

 

Several journos last night were saying on Twitter that we'll struggle, but that Spurs would be fine. It's absolutely baffling really, they basically are still totally unwilling to look at the table and appreciate we're not a bad side. It's basically, Spurs will be fine because they are Spurs... Leicester won't, because they are Leicester.

Posted

We don't know what the starting line-up will be, what draw we'll get, what new signings we have, it's six months away. 

Posted

I'm warming to Barton, seems to be very vocal in sticking up for the less glamourous clubs and isn't swept along by the brand being affected and all that crap.

Just seems like an average fan saying what we'd all say to each other in the pub. There can't have been a single person in the country who said "Danny Mills, great appointment to shake up youth development"... other than perhaps Danny Mills and the Mills family, although I suspect some of them probably couldn't believe their ears when they first head it.

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We don't know what the starting line-up will be, what draw we'll get, what new signings we have, it's six months away. 

We'll sign a few unknowns, they'll say they don't know who they are and write us off... then they'll be saying how brilliant they are and we've got great scouts a few months later.

Posted

I'm warming to Barton, seems to be very vocal in sticking up for the less glamourous clubs and isn't swept along by the brand being affected and all that crap.

 

He seems to genuinely get the game as well, Not one of these who just says things for the sake of it. I've got a lot of time for what he says.

 

This "affecting the brand" stuff is laughable as well. I'd say how far any English club is behind Bayern, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico or even PSG is quite damning. Don't blame Leicester.  We've just exposed it that bit further.

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if the game is on sky, then they automatically make money from its current subscribers even if they dont tune into the game, they still pay for the channel.

 

would the money from a typical big name v big name community shield benefit english football significantly or just the teams involved?

 

Advertising innit, Sky will want a glamour tie as the season opener to sell to the Asian markets and cover in foreign adverts.

 

We will be ok as we have all of Thailand behind us, but Watford, eurgh  that tin pot club has no real market value where are the legions of Asian Hornets, pathetic they should be banned from the community shield until they develop their international fan base, that is what success is based on, not winning cups.

 

Maybe we should reformat the community shield so that it is always the 2 most popular clubs that play in it.

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As if the Community Shield is the "showpiece" anyway lol lol lol

What a **** Danny Mills is. What's this obsession with "global audience"? Lets watch Man City reserves against Arsenal youngsters, that'll be brilliant pal. 

 

"Does anybody think Leicester will compete in the Champions League?" Yeah cos the English clubs have been so amazing. 1/8 quarter final places in 2 years.

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I would love to see the return of the old F.A. Charity shield, between the Premier League champions, and the F.A. Cup winners.

 

We won it once, in the 70s, the year that Liverpool did the double, with Steve Whitworth scoring the only goal of the game.

Posted

Danny Mills, Roy Hodgson - FA dinosaurs who just don't get it. I wouldn't like to get into a fight with Joey Barton - glad he's on our side.

Posted

I can understand the skepticism about us, but Watford are 2013 Playoff Finalists for God sake, show them the respect they deserve.

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This is what English football has become... The obsession with power and reputation. The media want the bigger clubs to succeed. I can only guess it's because it makes the Premier League look better. 

 

I would love it if West Ham got into the Champions League as well as us. Watch everybody kick off.

 

Probably be more successful than them all! i thinks thats what there afraid of....

Posted

I am first a city fan then England.

So all the pundits can fvck off till we have won something.

Then if we do and play in the charity shield I will just say.

All you know fvck all pundit's we are here after a season and deserve to be.

Now go lick your manc spuds and arse cracks.

Fvck off we are Leicester city we won your shite fvcked up league.

Posted

Don't the big boys play each other and various sides from overseas on glamour US/Middle East tours?

If anything they would just use the Community Shield as a reserve game before the start of the season..

Bring it on BTW!

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For me it's just a sad day that anybody can hold the opinion that participating in competitions like the Community Shield and the Champions League should be earned by the clubs accountants instead of the clubs players on the field and be taken seriously. Makes an utter mockery of professional football. You win the title you play in the Champions League and the Community Shield, you win the FA Cup you play in the Europa League and play in the Community Shield. It really doesn't matter if it's Bournemouth vs Carlise. That is football.

 

I don't think for a second our run has made any foreign spectator less interested in the PL. I think they are probably now more interested now that they now the competition isn't quite as closed off as they thought it was, it's global story, some C**t is making a film about Jamie Vardy of all people FFS.

 

I am sorry Danny Mills I am not up for bashing pundits for bashing pundits sake but your opinions are embarrassing full stop and for an ex pro to come out with them is just shameful. They day this sport is closed off to a few clubs that used to be good and a few clubs that have had cash injections at the right time is the day I am done with it.

 

This is without mentioning the laughable opinion that we are going to "hurt" or countrys cp points. I don't mean to be funny but the "big 4" have done a fine job of that themselves for about six years!

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What I find the funniest out of all of the stupid comments like this with Mills, the break away 'Super League' etc is that just over 5 years ago Man City wasn't considered 'a big club'

What defines a big club nowadays!?

History? Players? Money? League position?

Granted at the moment Leicester nor Watford might not have as much appeal to a world wide audience but what's not to say that it either will actually not be a good game of football to watch or would be the start of either/ both clubs road to becoming a 'big club'

Posted

Well I can't remember the last time I watched a Community Shield match. If Leicester are in it next season I'll be watching it. So mark that down as one extra viewer. Danny Mills came across as a moron there, makes you fear for the future of English football.

Don't have them play competively until 14? Sounds like wrapping our young kids up in cotton wool I'm afraid.

Have no-one allowed in oppositions half on goal kicks to enforce rolling the ball out? Erm, we are top of the league and we barely ever do that. There are no right or wrong ways to play football. Sounds like a training exercise for teams that want to play out of the back. Why enforce a rule on under 14s when there are different rules in the actual game of football? Very bizarre. First time they'll play against a team that punts it long from goal kicks they'll be confused and probably lose. Crazy.

There are many ways to play football, it's all about managing the in-game situation and being able to adapt. We were a good attacking team at the start of the season but couldnt defend. We can do both now thanks to Ranieri. We can decide to sit back and counter directly (spurs, arsenal, Man City), control games with shorter passing (second half vs Watford) and all out attack teams directly and fluidly if needed (second half vs Southampton).

That's why we are top, tactical flexibility. The so called 'big' teams have been too obsessed with controlling games that they have forgotten the art of attacking with a bit more directness or defending with a bit more diligence.

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