Mahrez - Arsenal

[reynard]

2 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Vardy could have done the same, but then he'd be sat here on 60k a week instead of 100k. Purely from a personal point of view, when negotiating the best thing to do is leak stuff about a move as it strengthens your hand in negotiations.

Possibly. Depends how everything is done by both parties though. As a club we could/should have  preempted the situation.

[Babylon]

1 minute ago, reynard said:

Possibly. Depends how everything is done by both parties though. As a club we could/should have  preempted the situation.

What can you do? he's under a three year contract we don't really have to do anything, we're offering him a new contract as a reward for his effort... if he doesn't want to sign it I don't know what else they can do.

[HighPeakFox]

Can we have some puns please? I'm not learning anything other than 'how to panic over something beyond my control'...

 

[yorkie1999]

Why do they have to renegotiate their contracts. Why cant the owner just have marhez in the office and say well done im giving you a wage rise heres 100 grand a week. It'd save all the time and expense of lawyers and agents.

[reynard]

3 minutes ago, Babylon said:

What can you do? he's under a three year contract we don't really have to do anything, we're offering him a new contract as a reward for his effort... if he doesn't want to sign it I don't know what else they can do.

Well I don't know what they have/not done of course but I would have hoped the club would have gone to the player first and said thanks we're rewarding you with a new contract .. You would hope we had at least anticipated the interest.

Of course they may have done this who knows. However, if he had rejected it then I think we should have said so and put the price at a decent amount. I'm just sick and tired of agents and all this messing around though I do understand why they do it.

 

The problem for us we're still seen as a small side in the grand scheme of things and this won't change unless we can regularly finish in the top 6.

[pSinatra]

If Wenger is serious, stick a bid in you old tart.  It will be something derisory & we can point blank turn it down.  He doesn't want to put all his eggs in one basket, wait until transfer deadline day only to find the bid is not even half of anything we would consider.

 

Arsenal can tap his agent up as much as they like & offer Mahrez £200k a week, but they haven't a clue what the club are willing to sell for, or if they're even willing to sell

[Richmondfox]

5 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

Why do they have to renegotiate their contracts. Why cant the owner just have marhez in the office and say well done im giving you a wage rise heres 100 grand a week. It'd save all the time and expense of lawyers and agents.

If only it was that easy.  They are probably haggling over every deal from goal/assist bonus to image rights. Hopefully the club stand firm and not get bullied into putting a release clause in on request from the player/agent.  If they do it should be at the clubs request and way over valued like Spanish and Portuguese clubs.

 

Hopefully they have reminded him that he has 3 years left on his contract, they see his transfer fee as X amount (for me 55m starting point with league and CL bonus payments) and won't sell him with the CL coming up. 

 

The way that agents work, it would be in their best interest to get a 120K+ deal now from Leicester so they can negotiate higher at a new club when the time comes.  Also a bigger transfer fee would mean more for the agent in the short term and massive wages over a longer period.   

 

Every week that goes by he is missing out on an extra 50K+.  I think Mahrez should be the highest earner, from a business view he is our most valuable asset, if it keeps him here for another season and focussed it will only help the team and increase his value when the club decide the time is right to let him go. 

[WengersWingMan]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

He can contact his agent without it being 'tapping up'?

 

he can't but he would. That is tapping up. You will struggle to prove it but it goes on all the time.

 

lcfc and senior staff were in LA whilst arsenal were there. No reason to go to a game to see them. 

 

And no reason to stay at the game after the myriad of subs. Not going to learn anything. 

From what I understand of the rules, you can't contact the player directly but you can contact agents and agents constantly contact other clubs too. Then if a club is actually interested they ask the agent about wage demands. Then they contact the club to ask if he's available to discuss terms with him in person, often before a fee is actually agreed. 

 

With Vardy for instance his agent contacted the likes of Man United and West Ham alongside Arsenal and probably countless others to shop his player around way before any bid was made for him. Then the agent can ask the club (ie Leicester) to match the other clubs offer. You can rest assured Mahrez's agent has been on the blower to every top club in Europe already.

 

Then ofcourse agents fabricate stories to the press to get better contracts for their players too. 

 

As for actual blatant tapping up, RVP was pictured with Man City officials and Fabregas was constantly tapped up in the media long before they moved, nothing is ever done about it. 

 

So no Wenger won't be at the game to tap up a player or scout a player, he's there for a meeting or simply to watch a game of football, which he enjoys doing I'm told.  

[whitlock]

Would seem bizarre that he would feel the need to go and watch Mahrez in a pre season friendly before thinking about whether he would put a bid in or not. No one needs to go and watch Mahrez in the flesh right now, considering the season he has had and the accolades that he has won. I'd guess that Wenger was in and around LA and fancied watching the game, could be a PSG fan. Who knows, who cares. Don Ranieri's comments are more than enough for me.

[Fox 4 Life]

Would love it if we did an Everton/West Ham and said he's not for sale for less than £75m. That would end it point blank as Arsenal would never match that valuation.

[foxy boxing]

it will be how ever millions plus a penny with that tight fisted tw*t wenger stop admiring leicester and concentrate on your own sh*t club

[Finnegan]

Just had my hair cut #itk

[Vlad the Fox]

4 hours ago, Finnegan said:

Pretty sure he'd have been implying that he likes the way we play more than arsenal tbh. Here he has the freedom to roam in a counter attacking side.

 

There he'd be expected to adhere to a tighter passing game.

He said in an interview last season how much he enjoys our style of play and the freedom it gives him to play his game.

[CockneyFox]

8 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said:

Would love it if we did an Everton/West Ham and said he's not for sale for less than £75m. That would end it point blank as Arsenal would never match that valuation.

That would be a crazy thing to do - we'd practically be admitting we are interested in selling (which we aren't), and the maximum price we'd accept!

 

Everton are making those sorts of comments with Lukaku as they've probably had intent from his representatives he'd like to move. Two very different scenarios at play.

 

Clubs play the game as much as agents do! Unfortunately for Mahrez he holds the trump card, hence the protracted scenario we have. It may not feel like it, but the club will be doing all they can to get this one done!

[st albans fox]

14 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

Just had my hair cut #itk

did rama cut it then ?

[sphericalfox]

19 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

Just had my hair cut #itk

Fear Babs' wrath!

[ARCHER]

30 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

Just had my hair cut #itk

Does it look alright?

[Fox 4 Life]

26 minutes ago, CockneyFox said:

That would be a crazy thing to do - we'd practically be admitting we are interested in selling (which we aren't), and the maximum price we'd accept!

 

Everton are making those sorts of comments with Lukaku as they've probably had intent from his representatives he'd like to move. Two very different scenarios at play.

 

Clubs play the game as much as agents do! Unfortunately for Mahrez he holds the trump card, hence the protracted scenario we have. It may not feel like it, but the club will be doing all they can to get this one done!

Payet at West ham, Gold said he wouldn't even entertain offers under 100m and there have been no rumours whatsoever.

 

If we said something along those lines we just wouldn't get the interest. All the time the press are talking about 37m and we don't respond makes me think we are contemplating it. Just play hardball and teams like arsenal will go away. 

[yorkie1999]

Well, at least everyone is still talking about Leicester and our players. Raising the profile and all that.

[Babylon]

28 minutes ago, sphericalfox said:

Fear Babs' wrath!

[fuchsntf]

Hes waiting for after the Barcelona game...

If I was him, I would do the same. Mahrez signed a new contract last year,

he has no need to make statements, he has duty to contract only, but right to

listen to the grapevine.

I suggest many of you stop your own speculation, to help provide your fuel

for riduculous argument or false creation of opinion.

Mahrez stays here, he remains a superstar with growth into an astounding  legend,

with 2-3 years only needed to confirm his status.On high wages.

He leaves to either Arsenal, or a big Spanish club, he takes his chance to be

a playing legend that stays on the lips of those fans, to become in short

a superstar with the footballing wealth at his feet...if he succeeds.!

He can have the best from 2 worlds, stay 1-2 seasons, even succeeding here

reaching superstar status, then move on to what ever his dream club he has in

mind.

To write your own story with a up and coming club and team,

now !! That Gets you and keeps you in the history book of legends.

Just playing for the likes of Arsenal or Barcelona, few get remembered, unless

you prove you have that right to be remembered, by winning the title, the CL and

showing you are one of the top 4 players in that team...No fan can expect to be

able to judge that players character or lack of loyalty, when in such a situation.

[LinekersApples]

lump off

[CockneyFox]

54 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said:

Payet at West ham, Gold said he wouldn't even entertain offers under 100m and there have been no rumours whatsoever.

 

If we said something along those lines we just wouldn't get the interest. All the time the press are talking about 37m and we don't respond makes me think we are contemplating it. Just play hardball and teams like arsenal will go away. 

West Ham aren't in the middle of securing Payet on a new contract though - he only signed for £120k+ a week in February.

 

If we said something similar then Mahrez would demand a contract befitting a £100m player, which would then set a benchmark for Drinkwater, Schmeichel, Huth etc when they are talking to the club, plus any future signings we make. Totally unsustainable.

 

[Sharpe's Fox]

Think Wenger is obsessed with us to be honest, takes any oppurtunity to mention us and seems to involve himself in our achievement for some weird reason because he once said you don't need a load of money to win the league. He's turned into a pretty sad, lonely old man over the last decade I reckon.

[st albans fox]

1 hour ago, LinekersApples said:

lump off

Too late !!

 

arse into 9/4 (24 hours ago at 7/2)

 

considering the amount of dosh that probably got staked fri evening at 2/1 right into 1/3 on staying, wouldn't be an insignificant amount to move the market by more than a point today.

 

some gooners clearly can't resist the perceived value in their price