Schlupp - West Brom

[Tanya]

I don't mind letting Jeff go, but only if we are going to sign a couple of more players. I think we're a bit light on and Schlupp hasn't even gone yet.

[Wilson_6]

Gutted as i think he is a game changer (At times) Although i suppose he is 3rd left wing and 3rd left back and like 7th striker  so for him to be playing week in week out i understand him wanting to leave but it sounds like were saying you can go rather than him saying he wants to. 

[HighPeakFox]

Of course he might have been told 'You can leave if you want to, BUT WE'D RATHER YOU DIDN'T.'

 

Doesn't suit anyone to tell us that though...

[ajthefox]

Poor decision if we let him go.

 

The article does say, "if he wants to" though. Not sure why he would go to West Brom even if it were for more game time.

 

Stay here Jeff!!

[Ric Flair]

He splits opinion because he can't do the simple things right in football which is always going to baffle people. How can a professional player whose won a league title in the top division be technically as poor as anything in the first 5 tiers of English football. He is that bad at times. But his pace, power and chaos factor he brings shows he can have an impact at the highest level and I value his place in our squad. I think we'd miss him but equally I don't think he can command a regular starting place. Perhaps he's the one not happy to be a impact player and is requesting the chance to leave if that's the case. 

 

Sometimes its it's very hard to keep squad players purely because they want to play more and even though he'd be missed its inevitable. This will be the same for Ulloa and possibly James as eventually they want regular football. 

 

 

[Kitchandro]

If Claudio actually manages to get £10m for this bloke he's even more of a genius than I thought.

 

Amazing business.

[the fox]

schlupp developed his body but not his football brain. yes he is fast. and yes he is strong. but that's about it. he is as "unintelligent" as you can get ( football wise) . and he can't cover correctly. so i will take marc over him. and gray is slightly ranked over him because his higher ceiling. so i think the best thing him and the club can do is z loan for a season. and when the season end. the club should evaluate his mental growth and then choose to keep the man or release him

[mozartfox]

20m for Brady and 10/11m for Schupp??? He must not be allowed to leave as we are 2 or 3 players short as it is.. And while we are at it, 1m bid for Moore??? 18m for Keane.. if this business happens, then there needs to be some tar and feather activities within the Club.

[Benji]

1 hour ago, The Railway Man said:

Would you really bring him on ahead of guys like Musa, Gray, Ulloa or Kaputska etc if we needed a goal?

 

There will certainly be situations where that's the case, yes.

 

Musa will quickly establish himself in the starting 11.  Ulloa is a completely different type of player and would only come on if the game needs a target man or we are holding on to a one goal lead against a team pumping balls into our box.  Gray may well get in the first team and Kaputska is an unknown quality, and certainly isn't as quick as Schlupp.  Having the option of bringing on one of the fastest players in the league is certainly no bad thing.

[UPinCarolina]

36 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

He splits opinion because he can't do the simple things right in football which is always going to baffle people. How can a professional player whose won a league title in the top division be technically as poor as anything in the first 5 tiers of English football. He is that bad at times. But his pace, power and chaos factor he brings shows he can have an impact at the highest level and I value his place in our squad.

 

 

The classic talent vs skill dilemma. Usually talent, with hard work, wins out. 

[Ric Flair]

Just now, UPinCarolina said:

The classic talent vs skill dilemma. Usually talent, with hard work, wins out. 

To a certain extent yes, we've seen gifted players with the wrong attitude get nowhere near the same achievements as less technical player whose determination takes them to the very top. With Schlupp he's similar to Lloyd Dyer in there being no footballing brain. When he has time to think he freezes and usually puts one wildly in to the crowd. I'd personally keep him if he's happy to be a squad filler, I love nothing more than when he enters the fray in a closely fought game and he causes panic, purely on the basis that the opposition are horrified by him and that does get us goals at times.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

1 minute ago, UPinCarolina said:

The classic talent vs skill dilemma. Usually talent, with hard work, wins out. 

Hard work beats talent. 

 

7 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

To a certain extent yes, we've seen gifted players with the wrong attitude get nowhere near the same achievements as less technical player whose determination takes them to the very top. With Schlupp he's similar to Lloyd Dyer in there being no footballing brain. When he has time to think he freezes and usually puts one wildly in to the crowd. I'd personally keep him if he's happy to be a squad filler, I love nothing more than when he enters the fray in a closely fought game and he causes panic, purely on the basis that the opposition are horrified by him and that does get us goals at times.

West Ham last season was a great example of that, horrifically tight game, Jeff comes on and waves his limbs around a bit and wins a pen. 

[lgfualol]

1 hour ago, EastAnglianFox said:

Will tear Simpson a new one if he comes up against him this season!

 

Massive impact player for us but can understand if he wants game time week in week out.

That's alright though, because once he beats Simpson his cross, pass or shot will fly out of the ground or he will get distracted by a fart somewhere in the KP.

 

Even after joking about him, I feel bad because I will miss him if he goes and who else is there to joke about. 

[UPinCarolina]

3 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Hard work beats talent. 

 

West Ham last season was a great example of that, horrifically tight game, Jeff comes on and waves his limbs around a bit and wins a pen. 

I'm agreeing with you about hard work. I'm just saying that he could train from Sun up to Sun down and if he doesn't have the innate physical gifts, someone who does can train less and still be superior.

If Schlupp puts in the time, he has the physical traits to be a great success. 

[Ric Flair]

5 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Hard work beats talent. 

 

West Ham last season was a great example of that, horrifically tight game, Jeff comes on and waves his limbs around a bit and wins a pen. 

Yeah, I actually like the thought of him coming on right wing as he can wreak havoc cutting inside and just keep going until he reaches the left corner flag and then turn back, bamboozle the opposition. He's a one off.

[eblair]

cant let schlupp go, despite our abundance of wingers, he is one of the only direct wingers who attack the byline in the league - plus our best choice at left back for 352

[ousefox]

I remember Claudio last year mentioning schlupp alongside vardy and mahrez as players we would not entertain offers for in January. He has serious potential if he gets his head in gear.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

1 hour ago, Col city fan said:

Letting Schlupp go would be daft imo. 

He's gonna get better and better.

Totally Agree Col

 

plus one 

[Grewks]

Can't believe we're looking at selling Schlupp, but fair play to him, if Albrighton, a winger with no ability to beat a man, is considered ahead of him, i'd want to leave aswell.

 

Schlupp should be our 1st/2nd choice left mid, 1st choice 352 wing back and can do a job up top.

[Babylon]

1 hour ago, mozartfox said:

20m for Brady and 10/11m for Schupp??? He must not be allowed to leave as we are 2 or 3 players short as it is.. And while we are at it, 1m bid for Moore??? 18m for Keane.. if this business happens, then there needs to be some tar and feather activities within the Club.

Difference is players are seen as surpless to requirements, the others aren't.

 

Whilst I'd rather not sell Schlupp, I'm pretty sure most people will admit beyond his pace and power the guy is a limited footballer and doesn't seem to improve the bits he's not great at. He's behind Mahrez, Gray, Albrighton... probably Musa and perhaps Kapustka if he shows a decent level of technical ability.

[lcfcdamo]

I really cant believe we would let him go if we do Claudio must have high hopes for gray and kapustka 

[Babylon]

10 minutes ago, Grewks said:

Can't believe we're looking at selling Schlupp, but fair play to him, if Albrighton, a winger with no ability to beat a man, is considered ahead of him, i'd want to leave aswell.

 

Schlupp should be our 1st/2nd choice left mid, 1st choice 352 wing back and can do a job up top.

As someone who said our pace is overrated... I'm not quite understanding why you see a man with only pace should be seen as first choice left winger.

[Wolfox]

11 minutes ago, Grewks said:

 Albrighton, a winger with no ability to beat a man

He didn't have to in order to get more crosses into the box than any other prem league player last season...  There is a lot more to wing play then charging down the touch line... He did OK on the assists department too didn't he?

[Grewks]

Just now, Babylon said:

As someone who said our pace is overrated... I'm not quite understanding why you see a man with only pace should be seen as first choice left winger.

 

Disagree with that.

 

The fact 'he can play' left wing, left back and up top shows he has quite a bit of general football understanding we don't give him credit for.

 

 

I said our pace is overrated against the top side....not those in our average league.

[Grewks]

Just now, Wolfox said:

He didn't have to in order to get more crosses into the box than any other prem league player last season...  There is a lot more to wing play then charging down the touch line... He did OK on the assists department too didn't he?

 

Have you got his figures for the second half of the season? Not sure i remember him contributing a lot to be honest.

 

His place in the side only existed because we were flying, his performances, imo, were average compared to the rest of the XI, barring Okazaki (Who i really rate btw, see Villa Away).