foxinsox Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 9 hours ago, AKCJ said: We bought a better winger in January for about 3m. 11m is a lot of money. Just because some of the richest clubs in England can afford to splash out, it doesn't mean anyone can. 11m for someone who is a jack of all trades but not close to being Premier League level at one is very good business. You'd have ripped West Brom's arm off at that last season and he's done nothing but be fortunate enough to have a team good enough to win the Premier League around him. Sound harsh... it is harsh... but it's reality. Schlupp has good games on the wing but seems to struggle to concentate. A good impact sub - just not at Left back please! Have WBA been watching the wrong player wanting him there?
Innovindil Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 Can't wait for us to actually suffer some injuries this season People will be begging schlupperman to save the day!
TrentFox Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 This time next year, Mahrez may well have gone. Look at our wingers if Schluppp has also gone. Still feel confident we have depth?
shiv Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 I think people are underestimating Jeff's value. Our key attacking force is pace. Why sell one of our quickest players? He gets into dangerous positions, and is a great impact sub. We need the depth this year. Think back to West Ham at home last year, we were on the verge of losing that game and Jeff won us that crucial penalty. Yes he needs to work on his end product, but realistically he wouldn't be at Leicester if his end product was better.
STUHILL Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 I would keep him for now, unless a crazy bid comes in, 16million+ I think Gray and Kaputsa have more potential but Schlupp is such a useful player to have, considering he can play all over the pitch and his pace causes any team problems. My only concern is that he will not be happy to be considered our 5th choice winger. If Kaputsa is as good as people are saying, will Schlupp even make the bench?! If I were him, I would be looking for a move so could start every week, which he definitely won't here unless we have a major injury crisis. It's not like we need the money though, so if he is happy enough to stay and play a bit-part role, then great! Will be very useful covering for any LB injuries or coming on late to try change a game with his pace.
goose2010 Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 57 minutes ago, TrentFox said: This time next year, Mahrez may well have gone. Look at our wingers if Schluppp has also gone. Still feel confident we have depth? yep totally as IF Mahrez was to leave and Jeff that would leave us with Albrighton, Grey, Kapustka and about 60 million quid to spend.
MarriedaLeicesterGirl Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 They aren't going to sell Schlupp this year. They don't have the players. A 24-man UEFA squad (including Chilwell) would turn into a 23-man UEFA squad. The only replacements possible would on our U23 squad, and there is no one there ready to make the step: The two best players are on loan. And I have a feeling CR is going to develop the cabbage as more of a box-to-box guy...he seems to have the skill set.
Guest Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 10 hours ago, Costock_Fox said: I would rather sell Schlupp than King and my opinion wont be changed by someone selecting 4 stats that are very comparable and reinforce my point that we can get a decent fee for Jeff but not King. I wouldn't have a problem at all with keeping Schlupp to be fair. You won't mind if the rational part of the board disagrees with you though will you? King can be replaced and upgraded easily. He really is a championship level starter. Schluup is an impact prem sub. What makes Schluup worth more is that he has one thing that very few players can match, he's a specialist. His speed kills and added to that he has above average strength. And whether you want to admit it or not he is an above average defender for a winger. 10 hours ago, Old Fox said: Pragmatism or realism....Gray still unproven, Mahrez still could leave, Kaputska new to England....all risks....Schlupp isn't. You know what you get with Jeff and his value in the mad market today is not £11m.... As for Barbosa.....well I am not convinced.....talented Brazilians at that age have massive risk attached as over the years South American success in the Premier League has been mixed..... I'm amazed how many people are already counting Kaputska as a good player. I hope he is but he maybe a Kramaric - a good player who doesn't fit in - he's certainly arrived with less expectation than Krammy. Schluup is a player who is likely to come off the bench during a game given the right circumstances, therefore he shouldn't be sold unless it is for an overpriced amount and we know that we can replace him.
Merging Cultures Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 Some people seem to underrate Schlupp's versatility and the value of that to any club. Having someone who can, and is willing, to cover numerous positions is extremely useful. Especially for us as our number of games increases this year. Also, he is young, fast, and an amazing athlete. He certainly isn't polished, but give him another couple of years and I think we'll see him to continue to improve. He is at least GBP15m easily.
shade Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 some of the comments on here I actually think I must be watching a different player, I really rate him, he's powerful, fast, direct, the kind of player that terrifies defences. sometimes his end product isn't great but most players have a weakness.
VLC86 Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 17 minutes ago, FIF said: You won't mind if the rational part of the board disagrees with you though will you? King can be replaced and upgraded easily. He really is a championship level starter. Schluup is an impact prem sub. What makes Schluup worth more is that he has one thing that very few players can match, he's a specialist. His speed kills and added to that he has above average strength. And whether you want to admit it or not he is an above average defender for a winger. I'm amazed how many people are already counting Kaputska as a good player. I hope he is but he maybe a Kramaric - a good player who doesn't fit in - he's certainly arrived with less expectation than Krammy. Schluup is a player who is likely to come off the bench during a game given the right circumstances, therefore he shouldn't be sold unless it is for an overpriced amount and we know that we can replace him. No problem with people being rational and I get what you are saying but do you not think we could get an impact sub for less than £11m? Imagine if last season we had sold Schlupp for £11m and bought Antonio for £7m, we would be pissing ourselves.
Guest Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 2 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said: No problem with people being rational and I get what you are saying but do you not think we could get an impact sub for less than £11m? Imagine if last season we had sold Schlupp for £11m and bought Antonio for £7m, we would be pissing ourselves. I think we could get an impact sub for £11m but that's a lot different from actually doing it - and we already have Jeff. As I said earlier I want to keep him but I'd sell him if we got another -better - player in first who was going to mean he didn't get onto the bench and I'd want more than £11m - by quite a margin.
shiv Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 3 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said: No problem with people being rational and I get what you are saying but do you not think we could get an impact sub for less than £11m? Imagine if last season we had sold Schlupp for £11m and bought Antonio for £7m, we would be pissing ourselves. No we couldn't. Robbie Brady is valued at £20M ffs. Bolasie going for £30M. Also, it's not what he's worth in the market. It should be what he's worth to us, and given we would probably be made to pay over the odds for any player I'd say £11M is a joke fee. Kaputska was £7.5M. That's not cheap for a player who's been playing in a terrible league. Jeff is a player with 2 years of PL experience and a PL trophy.
ALC Fox Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 Don't sell Scher-lupp Jeff-er-ey Scher-lupp I just don't think you understand If you sell Scher-lupp Jeff-er-ey Scher-lupp You're gonna 'ave a riot on yer 'ands!
ALC Fox Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 In all seriousness, don't sell Schlupp. He's part of the RAF. I loved how he muscled that Barca player off the ball and set up Musa. His pace, power and strength is made for English football and may cause a few worries in the Champions League. Sure, his distribution and end product need a lot of work but he's the kind of player that gets fans on their feet with one lungbusting run down the wing. If one of our other wingers has an off day, which will happen, then we need that.
Merchant_Banker Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 I thought Schlupp looked like he had improved in Pre-season. He actually put a couple of shots on target rather than row Z. He also managed to pass to one of our players for the second goal against Barca.
dannythefox Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 Made an impact a lot last year when he came on don't get the hate for him. Also if Ibe is worth 15M so is schulpp maybe more.
Ted Maul Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 He's the type of player who will cause panic and make things happen. His end product might be lacking at times, but his pace and directness just get us on the front foot when we're under pressure. There's no way we should be selling, especially with the amount of games we've got this year!
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 Jeff is a great player IMO im sure he will stay and play his part in some games from the start and from the bench in others great squad player at the very least
cc_star Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 Just now, Ted Maul said: He's the type of player who will cause panic and make things happen. His end product might be lacking at times, but his pace and directness just get us on the front foot when we're under pressure. There's no way we should be selling, especially with the amount of games we've got this year! Spot on. We should not be selling at all with the amount of pre-christmas games we have. It's also getting a bit late in the transfer window to replace people with well researched replacements
hornyhollthefox123 Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 At this level and especially for us and how we play he is so important. To have the pace and strength that he possesses and to come on at 60 minutes most weeks is a terrifying thought for the opposing full back. And jokes aside perhaps sometimes he doesn't necessarily know what he's going to do, but he is certainly effective! He's old fashioned and still quite raw but again so important to emphasise how important he is to US! And also i can't think of many players i would rather not face us after 60-65 minutes in a game. If Schlupp came on and ran at Fuchs or Simpson late in a game for the opposition i'd be worried as he genuinely has the capability to change a game or get a side 50 yards up the pitch in seconds. Every side has different options but him and Gray are the two direct rapid wide players we have.. It's not just about saying we have 5 wingers as all are different. Kapustka (at least on first glances), Mahrez and Albrighton are more creative and not as strong, whereas Gray and Schlupp are so direct and quick. We will play 50+ games this year and against the big sides and in the champions league there's going to be times where we don't see a great deal of the ball so for me someone like Schlupp is so important because of how he can change a game with his pace if the ball turns over in our defensive third.. Completely different argument but it's the same principle with Ulloa. How people can think Schlupp and Ulloa should just be shipped out is beyond me! Look at how we play and how valuable and integral they are to us!
filbertstreet Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 if jeff goes it better be for more than pogba
themightyfin Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 1 hour ago, STUHILL said: I would keep him for now, unless a crazy bid comes in, 16million+ I think Gray and Kaputsa have more potential but Schlupp is such a useful player to have, considering he can play all over the pitch and his pace causes any team problems. My only concern is that he will not be happy to be considered our 5th choice winger. If Kaputsa is as good as people are saying, will Schlupp even make the bench?! If I were him, I would be looking for a move so could start every week, which he definitely won't here unless we have a major injury crisis. It's not like we need the money though, so if he is happy enough to stay and play a bit-part role, then great! Will be very useful covering for any LB injuries or coming on late to try change a game with his pace. How is Jeff 5th choice winger? He has 2 years top flight experience now Gray and Kaputsa are still just young players with potential and can play in 2/3 positions that pots him ahead of both of those in the pecking order. The other 2 may well come through this season and I hope they do but we are going to need every player we have.
Guest Posted 12 August 2016 Posted 12 August 2016 1 minute ago, themightyfin said: How is Jeff 5th choice winger? He has 2 years top flight experience now Gray and Kaputsa are still just young players with potential and can play in 2/3 positions that pots him ahead of both of those in the pecking order. The other 2 may well come through this season and I hope they do but we are going to need every player we have. I think Gray has leapfrogged him - but they are completely different wingers. Gray is a major talent and could turn out better than Mahrez.
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