Johnthefoxrayner Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 9 hours ago, Koke said: Could be said for at least half of our players atm. Albrighton needs a break IMO. He's gone off the rails big time. IMO Gray is further ahead in his development than Chilwell. Chilwell worries me as I don't think he's that good. Chilwell had a great game imo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StriderHiryu Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 21 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Has to be one of the most frustrating players I've ever seen! He's got it all really. He's quick, agile, got good feet and can dribble with the ball. But he don't bloody pass! The number of times Gray does a great run, but then opts to shoot from the edge of the area rather than look up and square it to a fella with so much more space! Surely this can be trained into him? Do you think he's improving? Personally I think he's improved quite a lot this season. He was great against Sheffield United in the last round and was IMO one of the better players for us last night. Totally agree about the frustration in watching him, but he will need experience and a run in the first team to get that along with good coaching. Last night he was good defensively and always looked a threat on the counter. If he can turn that raw talent of pace and skill on the break away into finishes and better delivery he will be awesome. His cross at the end for Slimani was pretty good and you could see Slimani frustrated with himself! He probably wasn't expecting Gray to cross it but he could have got something on it if he went for it. His strike at goal in the first half was poor, but he made the opportunity all by himself. I think we will see another season of inconsistent performances from him and Chilwell, but that both will improve. And hopefully at some point they get into the first team and stay there because they are good enough. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 His youth and need to impress brings a degree of selfishness but his all round game is improving well. His final touch however in terms of decision making remains the weakest part of his game. He forced a few saves last night and nearly scored but he didn't get the balance right between crossing and shooting. I was also a little bit disappointed in his set piece. Iborra on his debut was poised to take it and he steamrolled up, took over and put it in row z. He will be truly brilliant - but his decision making and selfishness needs work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 Read a tweet that he has signed a five year deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 6 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said: His youth and need to impress brings a degree of selfishness but his all round game is improving well. His final touch however in terms of decision making remains the weakest part of his game. He forced a few saves last night and nearly scored but he didn't get the balance right between crossing and shooting. I was also a little bit disappointed in his set piece. Iborra on his debut was poised to take it and he steamrolled up, took over and put it in row z. He will be truly brilliant - but his decision making and selfishness needs work. This I totally agree bags of talent, now needs to sharpen his footballing brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelBoy73 Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 He reminds me of Tranny's debuts circa 2003~2004 : a huge imbalance regarding talent to end-product ratio, with that same selfishness to boot-up with. The lad will have a brilliant future if he makes some major improvements in his decision making and final-ball delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 20 September 2017 Author Share Posted 20 September 2017 2 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Read a tweet that he has signed a five year deal Would be great, but no doubt clubs will still be after him in each transfer window and his head could still get turned at any point - potentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Vardy Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 Thought it was possibly his most complete performance in a Leicester shirt. Looked more mature, caused no end of problems, worked his socks off...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillippaT Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 8 hours ago, Johnthefoxrayner said: Chilwell had a great game imo If he could stop the odd needless foul, then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansteyblue Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 The boys got talent no doubt but needs to be a bit less gready at times when there are better options 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 28 minutes ago, PhillippaT said: If he could stop the odd needless foul, then... same can be said of his much more senior colleague in the same position 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfoxes Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 He needs to limit his whinging on social media activity and buckle down show Shakey he should be chosen week in week out !! But agree he played some bloody good football against Liverpool just needed to step back when Iborra was going to take the free kick !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 Just now, justfoxes said: He needs to limit his whinging on social media activity and buckle down show Shakey he should be chosen week in week out !! But agree he played some bloody good football against Liverpool just needed to step back when Iborra was going to take the free kick !! BIB Why? does Iborra have a rep as a free kick specialist? I like players that have the confidence to demand to take them, just because he missed doesn't mean that he was wrong to want to take it Fuchs had a rep for free kicks in Germany and Mahrez has taken every free kick for as long as I can remember only scoring once so why does no one say step back and let Fuchs have them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillippaT Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 1 hour ago, Jimmy said: same can be said of his much more senior colleague in the same position I don't remember Fuchs completely bear-hugging his opponent... Perhaps I have a short memory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 4 minutes ago, PhillippaT said: I don't remember Fuchs completely bear-hugging his opponent... Perhaps I have a short memory? you said needless fouls nothing about what they were there have been many times when Fuchs has tripped someone needlessly even when on a booking himself already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfoxes Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 27 minutes ago, Jimmy said: BIB Why? does Iborra have a rep as a free kick specialist? I like players that have the confidence to demand to take them, just because he missed doesn't mean that he was wrong to want to take it Fuchs had a rep for free kicks in Germany and Mahrez has taken every free kick for as long as I can remember only scoring once so why does no one say step back and let Fuchs have them? Fair point !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 12 hours ago, Col city fan said: Has to be one of the most frustrating players I've ever seen! He's got it all really. He's quick, agile, got good feet and can dribble with the ball. But he don't bloody pass! The number of times Gray does a great run, but then opts to shoot from the edge of the area rather than look up and square it to a fella with so much more space! Surely this can be trained into him? I reckons run of games and he'd be less eager to make a name for himself in cameo spells like he's having to do now. Look at Stoke at home last season, he was very good. He managed to suss out when to shoot and when to pass/cross. He's definitely capable. Just give him a run of games and if he doesn't make his mark then fcuk him off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koke Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 (edited) Gray, and even Mahrez, should sit down and watch Hazard. Selfless. Passes when he should and shoots when he should. Likewise with Coutinho. Edited 20 September 2017 by Koke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillippaT Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 1 hour ago, Jimmy said: you said needless fouls nothing about what they were there have been many times when Fuchs has tripped someone needlessly even when on a booking himself already Sorry for not making a distinction between accidental fouls and a deliberate bear-hug - which is want I meant by needless (as opposed to accidental). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 15 minutes ago, PhillippaT said: Sorry for not making a distinction between accidental fouls and a deliberate bear-hug - which is want I meant by needless (as opposed to accidental). It was accidental tripping it was I cannot be bothered to run with this guy tripping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 Worthy of a place for me. Gray on one side, Marhrez on the other. Both fast, direct and will run at opposition. We're so concerned with not losing instead of winning. Albrighton has not played well since Arsenal away and in the last two games should have been dragged off at half time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeGuy Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Koke said: Gray, and even Mahrez, should sit down and watch Hazard. Selfless. Passes when he should and shoots when he should. Likewise with Coutinho. A fairer comparison would be Robben tbf. Hazard and Coutinho are a completely other type of player imo. They can play wide but are essentially playmakers, more prone to pass than wanting to score even if they can do it (relatively) easily. Edit: They also don't defend as much as our wingers. Very important difference. Mahrez and Gray are out and out wingers, impact players, more egoistic and more prone to take on players. They don't dictate the game and need to be launched from the middle. Should they start to deep, they won't have the same impact. Don't also forget that they're limited by the touch line on one side, which narrows the options, even more so when the FB doesn't overlap or the CM stays far away. I thought for while that Mahrez could play in the middle behind the strikers but now I have a different opinion. He's shit in the middle, Gray likewise. He can drift from time to time in but his best impact comes fron the side. But both are starved when they get the ball and tend to hug it as long as they can. That said, being more selfless would indeed do them and the team good. Gray is really improving to be honest, his second half was good and I'm noticing a clear evolution in his game. Edited 20 September 2017 by ZeGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 20 September 2017 Author Share Posted 20 September 2017 I still feel Gray and Mahrez need to develop their defensive side, when the team is under offensive-pressure. Try to find ways of blocking out the opposition offensive midfield/wingers, and find routes to exploit their high-pressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeGuy Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 Just now, Wymeswold fox said: I still feel Gray and Mahrez need to develop their defensive side, when the team is under offensive-pressure. Try to find ways of blocking out the opposition offensive midfield/wingers, and find routes to exploit their high-pressing. Developping their defensive side is a sure way to kill what's left from their offensive side. They're already starting from our third and defend too much to be really effective upfront. And don't forget that they're not getting support from the FBs. Strikers and wingers shouldn't be used to solve a midfield problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 20 September 2017 Share Posted 20 September 2017 7 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said: I still feel Gray and Mahrez need to develop their defensive side, when the team is under offensive-pressure. Try to find ways of blocking out the opposition offensive midfield/wingers, and find routes to exploit their high-pressing. Gray and Mahrez would benefit greatly from moving away from a rigid 4-4-2. Having 2 sitting DCM's for example would reduce their defensive duties and allow Gray and Mahrez to stay further up and be much more effective in attacks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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