AmarteyAndChill Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 Claudio was a laughing stock before he joined us. Losing to the Faroe Islands with Greece. We gave him a chance and he took it, his stock is a lot higher now. He should be respectful of the owners and the club for giving him a chance when know one else was willing to.
Corky Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 5 hours ago, filbertway said: I hope he actually takes some of the blame. They probably won't even ask him about it. Many pundits felt he could do what he liked this season with no repercussions, see the "right to take them down" comments which is frankly ludicrous.
filbertway Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 6 minutes ago, Corky said: They probably won't even ask him about it. Many pundits felt he could do what he liked this season with no repercussions, see the "right to take them down" comments which is frankly ludicrous. Yeah you're probably right. I'm just picturing them asking "where you think it all went wrong Claudio?" then him just saying "I don't know, you'll have to ask the owners why they let me go" and everyone going off on one for another week. If he does get the opportunity, he has to accept a fair portion of blame. I don't think I can bring myself to watch it, I know it'll just annoy me.
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 3 hours ago, AmarteyAndChill said: Claudio was a laughing stock before he joined us. Why, if you are right, did our owners sign him in the first place? Certainly not to give him a chance.
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 1 hour ago, filbertway said: If he does get the opportunity, he has to accept a fair portion of blame. That's a good one. In contrast to all the other people at the club, Ranieri never blamed anybody else, but himself, for our failures in this season. After the Chelsea and Southampton games he took all the responsibility for everything, that went wrong. He never slated a player in public. He always protected them . Perhaps that was his biggest mistake.
m4DD0gg Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 17 minutes ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: That's a good one. In contrast to all the other people at the club, Ranieri never blamed anybody else, but himself, for our failures in this season. After the Chelsea and Southampton games he took all the responsibility for everything, that went wrong. He never slated a player in public. He always protected them . Perhaps that was his biggest mistake. He was the problem, that is so painfully and perhaps sadly obvious.
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 5 minutes ago, m4DD0gg said: He was the problem, that is so painfully and perhaps sadly obvious. Could you ,please, be a little bit more specific?
m4DD0gg Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 12 minutes ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: Could you ,please, be a little bit more specific? Really?! The ****ed up formations, bizarre substitutions, mind boggling tactics....that crap ground the players down to nubs and whilst some of their performances were poor he was the root cause. He tried to fix something that was not broken and in turn broke it. I love Claudio as much as the next man but if he was still here we would be out the champions league and even worse adrift in the bottom 3 with him spouting the same 'my warriors' crap in every interview.
Donut Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 Even the "wrong" tactics wouldnt have made the team go backwards as fast as they did. Ranieri takes his share of the blame, but there has clearly been attitude issues at the club and other issues outside Ranieris control
Koke Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 Ranieri set the tone for the season when he started "resting" players before CL ganes.. He basically accepted defeat before a ball was kicked. Rested Mahrez and Slimani for Chelsea away and played Schlupp. Ranieri forfeited that game.
Matt Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 So all the people who can't bear people, other fans, clubs, pundits hating us, slagging us off...why? I asked this and couldn't understand it when Ranieri got sacked, the amount of people worried and concerned about our image was unbelivable. For people worring that we're gonna get slagged off, open wounds, e.t.c...why? These players, this team love to be wrote off, they love to prove people wrong, we are better under a seige mentality, that goes for the fans aswell, we are more resolute, get stronger, louder, support better when we are up against it. Slag us off?....Bring it on! It was sad and unfortunate Ranieri got sacked after what happened last season, i'll never forget what he did last season (Although the more you read, did he actually do that much?! However he was the face of it all, he was there and for that he needs to be thanked and respected), but he had to be sacked and it has proved to be the right decision so far, from those looking in from the outside it's simple to assume the players are snakes and stabbed Ranieri in the back but for us who watch regular the change (for the better) is clear to see, the mistakes and changes (for the worse) Ranieri was making were clear to see.
MrSpaM Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 1 hour ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: That's a good one. In contrast to all the other people at the club, Ranieri never blamed anybody else, but himself, for our failures in this season. After the Chelsea and Southampton games he took all the responsibility for everything, that went wrong. He never slated a player in public. He always protected them . Perhaps that was his biggest mistake. Can you link to an article or after match interview where he actually admitted it was his fault we lost? Because I genuinely can't remember that ever happening
jim5000 Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 13 minutes ago, Koke said: Ranieri set the tone for the season when he started "resting" players before CL ganes.. He basically accepted defeat before a ball was kicked. Rested Mahrez and Slimani for Chelsea away and played Schlupp. Ranieri forfeited that game. But by resting the players so much, it ensured they are kind of fresh for the next month of intense football. We can at least thank Ranieri for that (along with the title). Ranieri didn't think the players could keep up the intensity that they are currently playing with for a whole season including a European tour, and maybe Shakespeare is getting the benefit from that slightly.
On our way... Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 Let's not get bitter about this. Claudio orchestrated THE best year of our football lives (or lives even) and I for one will be forever grateful after years of following our club through thick and thin. Sure, mistakes were made this year, but you cannot pin all the blame on him. He will be under immense pressure and goading from Carragher and Neville to spill the beans and name names but he will retain his dignity I'm sure. Thank you Claudio and good luck.
Tuna Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 27 minutes ago, MrSpaM said: Can you link to an article or after match interview where he actually admitted it was his fault we lost? Because I genuinely can't remember that ever happening He did say it was his fault we lost at Southampton as he tried a diamond formation that was hopeless. Everyone on here should remember that.
K1FOX Posted 30 March 2017 Posted 30 March 2017 When your success is based on a certain way of playing football and you change it for no apparent reason and then when this doesn't work again change it further then I'm sorry but you have to take a large chunk of the blame. Add to this the fact that sport science teams and psychologists were removed when players have openly come out and said how important this was to them, then you definitely shouldn't act so much a victim when change is made. If I was a player and the owners asked me after 7 months of nobody understanding what was going on, the reason why, i would most certainly say the changes are not working. That is just doing my job not being a snake. Ranieri and his experience was pivotal last year in dealing with the media and keeping the players calm and focused but he didn't put his stamp on the team last year and he couldn't bear having another season without doing things the Claudio way. In the end that was his downfall
Steven Posted 30 March 2017 Posted 30 March 2017 Leicester sacking was biggest shock of my career, says Claudio Ranieri https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/29/claudio-ranieri-leicester-city-football-sacking-shock-surprise
filbertway Posted 30 March 2017 Posted 30 March 2017 7 minutes ago, Steven said: Leicester sacking was biggest shock of my career, says Claudio Ranieri https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/29/claudio-ranieri-leicester-city-football-sacking-shock-surprise Oh, just a copy of his Italian interview
kushiro Posted 30 March 2017 Posted 30 March 2017 4 hours ago, K1FOX said: Ranieri and his experience was pivotal last year in dealing with the media and keeping the players calm and focused but he didn't put his stamp on the team last year and he couldn't bear having another season without doing things the Claudio way. In the end that was his downfall You're going too far there. He changed our shape after the Arsenal 5-2. He spent endless hours on the training pitch drilling our defensive shape. Players like Danny Simpson mentioned how much Ranieri taught him about positioning. The sequence of 1-0 victories that drove Spurs mad had 'made in Italy' stamped all over it. From everything I've read, the problems arose at the start of this season when, to compensate for the loss of Kante (or so he thought) he changed our style of play. Two questions I would like Carragher or whoever to ask are: 1) How did your approach change when Kante left? 2) To what extent did you discourage the players from pressing?
Kitchandro Posted 30 March 2017 Posted 30 March 2017 I don't know why people are still so annoyed with him. We've probably saved our season now, can't people just get over it? People are even questioning his character which I find totally petty and baseless. I don't want Sky Sports waffling on about how we should expect to be in a relegation battle as much as anyone else, but I equally don't want Ranieri's name being dragged through the mud by ungrateful fvcks who can't accept the amazing things he did here. Just as as I feared Claudio's sacking has only made people pin all the blame on him and excused the players who were also in a relegation battle under Pearson, and whose characters are the only ones that can really be questioned. Don't tell me that those of you who went all the way to Southampton and Swansea were satisfied with the effort. The scouts and coaches still remain here so after another pathetic transfer window and perhaps another season of underachievement, we'll have to blame somebody else for everything. Unless of course we finish in the top 7.
glenny_fox Posted 30 March 2017 Posted 30 March 2017 51 minutes ago, Steven said: Leicester sacking was biggest shock of my career, says Claudio Ranieri https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/29/claudio-ranieri-leicester-city-football-sacking-shock-surprise As much as I respect Claudio for what he did here if he was genuinely surprised by his sacking then he was frankly deluded. He was the sole orchestrator of our shocking first half to the season by literally stripping everything that worked last season and flipping it on it's head. If he had shown some trust in the players from the beginning of the season by believing they could still play the intensity we played last season we would easily be top 8 now.
AKCJ Posted 30 March 2017 Posted 30 March 2017 4 minutes ago, Kitchandro said: I don't know why people are still so annoyed with him. We've probably saved our season now, can't people just get over it? People are even questioning his character which I find totally petty and baseless. I don't want Sky Sports waffling on about how we should expect to be in a relegation battle as much as anyone else, but I equally don't want Ranieri's name being dragged through the mud by ungrateful fvcks who can't accept the amazing things he did here. Just as as I feared Claudio's sacking has only made people pin all the blame on him and excused the players who were also in a relegation battle under Pearson, and whose characters are the only ones that can really be questioned. Don't tell me that those of you who went all the way to Southampton and Swansea were satisfied with the effort. The scouts and coaches still remain here so after another pathetic transfer window and perhaps another season of underachievement, we'll have to blame somebody else for everything. Unless of course we finish in the top 7. I've literally not seen a single Leicester fan unfairly criticise Ranieri. If anything he's gotten off very lightly. We'd have wanted a any other manager sacked months ago.
m4DD0gg Posted 30 March 2017 Posted 30 March 2017 48 minutes ago, Kitchandro said: I don't know why people are still so annoyed with him. We've probably saved our season now, can't people just get over it? People are even questioning his character which I find totally petty and baseless. I don't want Sky Sports waffling on about how we should expect to be in a relegation battle as much as anyone else, but I equally don't want Ranieri's name being dragged through the mud by ungrateful fvcks who can't accept the amazing things he did here. Just as as I feared Claudio's sacking has only made people pin all the blame on him and excused the players who were also in a relegation battle under Pearson, and whose characters are the only ones that can really be questioned. Don't tell me that those of you who went all the way to Southampton and Swansea were satisfied with the effort. The scouts and coaches still remain here so after another pathetic transfer window and perhaps another season of underachievement, we'll have to blame somebody else for everything. Unless of course we finish in the top 7. I dont think anyone is annoyed with him and if truth be told i would say most are heart broken that its ended up like this - i know i am. I would say most people were frustrated and that includes the players. Imagine in your place of work that your boss/manager helps you achieve the impossible in your career and then literally (or so it appears) goes the complete opposite. I guarantee anyone would become demotivated and even circumvent that person eventually.
foxile5 Posted 30 March 2017 Posted 30 March 2017 Surprised even more than bitter... https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/29/claudio-ranieri-leicester-city-football-sacking-shock-surprise
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