RonnieTodger Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 That video is absolute emotional nonsense. I used to like Ian Darke, but he comes across as a child there. How many "fans" would we have lost after relegation? And don't for a second pretend that he would've kept us up.
Soar Fox Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 I doubt many proper Leicester fans are bothered than Sanjay from India doesn't support LCFC anymore because we sacked Ranieri.
RonnieTodger Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 Also, regarding Ranieri I'd be amazed if he came across as anything other than polite but respectful of the team and situation. I imagine he'd admit that he was shocked to be sacked, but there's no way he'll insult the players, fans or even the owners.
Koke Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 17 minutes ago, Foxin_mad said: If Ranieri had stayed here is how the last few results would have panned out: Liverpool at home - started the game ok, sat back, allowed Liverpool to come at us and dominate the midfield no urgency, maybe create a few half chances. Then because we are sat so deep a defender makes an error and Liverpool score 1-0, heads drop 2-0 before half time. 2nd half we defend like warriors and maybe concede 1 further goal. Hull at home - started the game ok, sat back, allowed Hull to come at us and dominate the midfield no urgency, maybe create a few half chances. Then because we are sat so deep a defender makes an error and Hull score 1-0, heads drop 2-0 before half time. 2nd half we defend like warriors and maybe concede 1 further goal. Sevilla - Destroyed 4-0 as we sit back and they tear us apart. West Ham away - started the game ok, sat back, allowed West Ham to come at us and dominate the midfield no urgency, maybe create a few half chances. Then because we are sat so deep a defender makes an error and West Ham score 1-0, heads drop 2-0 before half time. 2nd half we defend like warriors and maybe concede 1 further goal. That's pretty much how every game went, we would have been well adrift by now had he stayed. We'd most likely have been second bottom on 21 points with 8 straight defeats. There's no way we'd have come back from 1-0 down to win 3-1 against Hull under Ranieri.
ealingfox Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 To be fair to Ranieri I think we'd have got a point from the Hull game.
MrSpaM Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 The media circus is just going to continue until Claudio accepts any sort of responsibility for the way were were freefalling down the league, which he hasn't done yet
kingcarr21 Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 33 minutes ago, Izzet is God said: Yet the fact remains he wasn't in charge. We dropped into the bottom 3 because of what Ranieri had achieved so far this season. Just because he was sacked on the Thursday doesn't mean he didn't put us in the bottom 3. It's ridiculous to suggest otherwise. He won us the league and yes performances were shocking but the players have to take responsibility there. So Ranieri won us the league but when the going got tough it was all down to the players? The players are not solely responsible.We won it as a collective and we were getting relegated as a collective (with Ranieri being the bigger influence in both cases imo). Ranieri made changes which clearly the players struggled to understand and adapt, probably disillusioned as to why the changes had been made after what we achieved. To point the finger only at the players i'm sorry is just plain wrong. You can't change players in 2 days to a side that wiped the floor with Liverpool... Correct you can't. But you can change the way we play back to what we are strong at. That's all Shakespeare has done. He hasn't worked miracles, the players haven't decided they can now give a shit.Shakespeare simply went back to what we are good/comfortable at doing and funnily enough the results have come. Bloke led us to the title and last 16 of the champions league. He will therefore forever be a legend in my eyes. And should be for all LCFC fans. He is a legend. Im not sure people are suggesting otherwise. Unfortunately what Ranieri did was what he does at the other clubs he managed. He keeps things the same and gets relative success. Then once he starts to ring the changes it goes downhill. I for one will always love the man, as (I would like to think) every Leicester fan will. That doesn't change the fact we were on a downward spiral. Its just a shame that there is some that don't have patience and apparently can predict the future and say he wouldn't have led us to survival this season. There was absolutely nothing to suggest we were going to stay up. Whichever way you looked at the situation we looked doomed to relegation. In fact I was convinced we weren't just getting relegated but that we were going to finish bottom. Nothing on/off the pitch was telling me that everything would be ok. I would throw it back your way and say what could you show me that suggested that we would have stayed up with Ranieri? Blind faith I believe would be the only thing. Which the club cant work on blind faith. Have to take each day as it comes and enjoy the good ones. And accept the bad ones? This wasn't just a 'bad day at the office'. We were woefully bad for a long period of time. A period of time which was threatening our league status. The owners had a very tough decision to make. They wouldn't have enjoyed it. But ultimately it was for the good of the club and a decision that quite clearly was the right one. The club comes first before any player and any manager no matter how successful. Are you sure your name isn't Ranieri is God
fuchsntf Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 10 hours ago, Finnegan said: I ****ing hate Sky. Others have pointed out, it's no echtcoincidence it's days we have a major semi final. Carra will do his absolute best to crowbar as much ill feeling out of the guy as possible. Just hope Claudio doesn't bite really. It's become increasingly obvious that Ranieri made fatal mistakes this year and that's fine, people do, I still love the bloke. But if he goes on TV, sticks his head in the sand and still just resoundly blames others then that'll start to take the gloss off. That'll be gutting. That my son..is Sky actually doing a good job, this is what football is about. Why run scared..I reckon Claudio will face up, but be humble in his interview and in the timeslot allotted. We in turn should listen, to see what , if anything we can learn between the lines, which will be imo, very little. Carragher , Neville, can say or ask what they like....its also their job. I wanted Claudio to be given until EOS, I am more than happy that the owners were of a different opinion...... No matter how/what the next few yrs Drag out of this 2016/17 season. Unless he was dispicable, nasty, or truelly incompetent (which I am sure he wasnt). He remains the manager who led us to the title, He rewrote our history, and also many a press conferences. You can confer debate all the mitigating Conspiracy theories, you want on this forum, you can play up or down Claudios part as spitefull or complimentary as you like. He stays my legend, one of many Men who was part of and realised My dream.He belongs on my Podest/pedastle. I am not far off his age, he made me for so many moments a boy again... I actually believe, like every single one of us, Claudio just didnt understand what he/we had and why, and believed he could handle this group , backroom staff in his own traditional Way and methods.Other managers would have done the same...The implosion withinside the teams play and quite abysmal performances proves it to me. He still wanted to mould and nead, other things into them that simply isnt and never was there. Kante leaving to me is/was a red herring. I might be wrong here, but I believe he thought because we were title winners, we could eventually, with this team, Learn to hold the ball, in all positions, and play for space. No we can only play on the frontfoot by pressing, not by Holding. Look at Huth/Fuchs/Morgan, they need movement and cover, where Simpson can hold his space and the lines under pressure.I accept his strengths are different to a Walker/Rose/Clyne, but Simpson stays my prefered RB.He can play the Ugly game, Fuchs likes to drive forward, then his defending is top, but ask him to play ugly and deep he has such a season like the one before february.... MNF will be about Claudio and his response, or lack of....He stays for my reasons, my legend. I dont agree or disagree with all the pundits/journalist , over the season, I dont build up hate campaigns, I enjoy listening, to their negative and positive..WTF moments...because its part of the entertainment. That is what Claudio knew and did better than....Van Gaal, Mourinho, Gaudiola,Ferguson, plus many other.. He got people to like, love and respect him, in good and bad times...
AyewJoking Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 he appeared so sad in the days after he was sacked and its not often, correct me if im wrong - a manager appears so devastated by being dismissed. maybe he was being clever or maybe he really believed the players had his back which its clear to see they didnt given the 100% turn around since he left.
Dan Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 37 minutes ago, ealingfox said: To be fair to Ranieri I think we'd have got a point from the Hull game. I honestly don't think we would have done. We were in complete freefall.
yorkie1999 Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 Carragher "claudio, if someone had said to you you're going to be manager of leicester, win the premier league, get sacked the next season and get a 3 million quid pay off. Would you take that?" Claudio " course i would, you stupid tw*t"
MPH Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 1 hour ago, Steve_Walsh5 said: I doubt many proper Leicester fans are bothered than Sanjay from India doesn't support LCFC anymore because we sacked Ranieri. Its his pall Harjinder i'm worried about
Babylon Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 2 hours ago, hackneyfox said: My point was that had the Liverpool game been played on the Saturday at the same time as other games we wouldn't have been in the bottom three. Unless we lost.
Babylon Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 2 hours ago, Izzet is God said: Yet the fact remains he wasn't in charge. And the fact remains whether he got sacked or not, we'd have been in the bottom three that weekend. It was the results under his tenure that put us there. As for people not knowing if he would keep us up or not, no we don't and never will. But you base these things on an educated guess, and looking at our results and performance and of others around us, we were going down. That was pretty clear to 90% of the people on this forum. There was nothing indicating otherwise.
AmarteyAndChill Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 2 hours ago, ealingfox said: To be fair to Ranieri I think we'd have got a point from the Hull game. Which would have been an awful result
Hammo Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 Sky are bringing in Claudio to liven up a less than appealing MNF. He is going on because he needs to resurface. It will be as bland as his post-match interviews, I promise you. There will be the odd chuckle if the words 'pizza' or 'dilly ding dilly dong' get mentioned but by the end of it Carragher and Neville will feel deflated. Claudio has nothing to gain by any shit stirring. The media crave it but it just won't happen. Let's just get ourselves safe and enjoy being the last English team in the Champions league. That's all that matters.
Ted Maul Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 Of course, there's a chance that Claudio has gone off the rails since the sacking... He just turns up on screen in piss-stained trackies with a bottle of whiskey in a brown bag shouting "FOREST?!?! AAAAAARRRGHHHHH!! WE HATE DERBY!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGJHHHHHHHHHH!!!"
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 1 hour ago, Babylon said: Unless we lost. This is turning into a "Until he's 29 he's 28" type argument
Corky Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 5 hours ago, Koke said: This is ESPN. Even after winning 4 in a row and getting to the Champions League quarter finals they are still butt hurt. Craig Burley even said he can't understand most Leicester fans saying "it had to be done". I'll tell you why, Craig. That's because we support Leicester City FC, not Claudio Ranieri FC. We were 100% going down under CR but they wanna pretend we werent. Who are these "new fans" anyway? Other clubs liking us for a bit? They'll move on to the next story soon enough. People claiming to be Leicester fans? If you don't bother because we've sacked a manager in a relegation battle (let's actually look at the reality instead of their fantasy world) then you aren't a great fan in the first place. The fact is, throughout our history we've made unpopular decisions, had dreadful seasons, shambolic ownership and the fans complained, moaned, wanted better but never ran away. I didn't agree with getting rid of Pearson two years or letting him join Hull, I don't think I wanted Sven sacked at the time but I can still understand why they happened. The club is bigger than one man. I think Claudio will be fine on this show, I hope he's well and enjoying his break. But I'm not going to be guilt-tripped into thinking we've made a terrible decision against the soul of football or some such bollocks. Fortunately, plenty have been able to separate the sterling work of last season with the failing work of this and judge accordingly. It would help of some of our media would do the same.
Chico1958 Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 Another poke at Shakespeare and the "Players" with a stick And when the Team gets poked they respond As for Claudio, I expect him to be honest, respectful and charming as always. Yes, I still love the man..................
foxinsocks Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 Everyone wanted a happy ending for claudio. .. our fans and other fans. But it wasnt to be. We know that things had to change. The others cant understand it. But so far...our owners have been proved right. While others still moan..... when their club is failing they will use us as an exampke to be brave and think the unthinkable. Claudio would be best advised to say he was disappointed but acknowledge the owners dilema and responsibility to decide... i doubt he will want to make aspertions. .... he doesn't want folk slagging his more weird decisions
Argarath Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 33 minutes ago, Ted Maul said: Of course, there's a chance that Claudio has gone off the rails since the sacking... He just turns up on screen in piss-stained trackies with a bottle of whiskey in a brown bag shouting "FOREST?!?! AAAAAARRRGHHHHH!! WE HATE DERBY!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGJHHHHHHHHHH!!!" Made my day :) just imagening that haha i would seriously have died of laughter
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 1 hour ago, Ted Maul said: Of course, there's a chance that Claudio has gone off the rails since the sacking... He just turns up on screen in piss-stained trackies with a bottle of whiskey in a brown bag shouting "FOREST?!?! AAAAAARRRGHHHHH!! WE HATE DERBY!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGJHHHHHHHHHH!!!" Let's go mad in Lufbra...aaargggghh (Imagine that in a pissed up, Italian accent)
Foxxed Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 Fantastic news: it'll make great TV and tighten the bond between the players. Last season, the criticism--you haven't played anyone good yet, you'll fade away after Christmas--only strengthen the team. This season, rather than demoralise, the critism over Ranieri's sacking seemed to galvanise the team. Merson and Carragher can sneer all they want. It may do nothing more than quicken Vardy's runs, sharpen Simpson's tackles and better guide Mahrez through a maze of defenders.
fuchsntf Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 In all this palava, not one so called tv sports expert, pundit or Journalist, have even attempted to analyse, Leicester games from ..lets say from Oct 2016 until Claudios departure, and compare the last 4 games. Isnt it their job, to give some technical football comparisons, if they want to be known as serious sports experts. Simple headlines for simple minds and Money. Underselling their listeners and readers. There is a good sports story to be had, and they are blundering by it, by trying to bleat around like soap-divas. Not one editor has tried to pick up on it. Not one ex-player pundit has tried another angle. A couple like Keane, even Neville and Thompson, have not pounded any single line or attempted to discredit the owners or the sacking....Until now holding the suprised..but !! Chair.
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