Izzet is God Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 4 hours ago, kingcarr21 said: The club comes first before any player and any manager no matter how successful. Are you sure your name isn't Ranieri is God Totally agree that the club comes first. I'm just pointing out the other side of the coin. By all means I'm not defending that Ranieri made strange and wrong decisions this season by changing certain things. However, his record for us and overall, speaks for itself. I'm not saying that he definitely would of kept us up, just purely pointing out that no one will ever know if he would of because the decision was made. I respect the decision was made doesn't mean I have to agree with it. The points you've highlighted in my post about how the its a collective and we were woeful for a long time - I just want to put this to you then, 25 games of the premier league this season CR had and once again we were not in the bottom 3 until after he was sacked...we were also still in the Champions League and FA cup at that point. We were bottom of the league 2015 under NP with less points at 25 games and he was given till the end of the season... My point is it was one rule for one and one for another. Shakespeare is doing a fantastic job but he has been with us for all this same time. Therefore it's unfair to purely point the finger at CR for our own downfall which led to that situation. Once again, I'm just pointing out the man deserves our respect for what he has done for our club. He's a true gentleman and I'm going to disagree with people who generally seem to think that there was no element of players underperforming for the majority of this season. To say it was because they didn't understand CR's tactics/choices after last season, you can therefore assume they are questioning him as the manager then? Surely they are grounded enough to realise that this year was going to be more difficult? Agree it's a collective and the club comes first. I respect the owners and always will for what they have done for my club. But it's clear that modern day footballers have very lucrative jobs with very little responsibility. I'm just glad they have stepped up performances under Shakespeare.
kingcarr21 Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 46 minutes ago, Izzet is God said: Totally agree that the club comes first. I'm just pointing out the other side of the coin. By all means I'm not defending that Ranieri made strange and wrong decisions this season by changing certain things. However, his record for us and overall, speaks for itself. I'm not saying that he definitely would of kept us up, just purely pointing out that no one will ever know if he would of because the decision was made. I respect the decision was made doesn't mean I have to agree with it. The points you've highlighted in my post about how the its a collective and we were woeful for a long time - I just want to put this to you then, 25 games of the premier league this season CR had and once again we were not in the bottom 3 until after he was sacked...we were also still in the Champions League and FA cup at that point. We were bottom of the league 2015 under NP with less points at 25 games and he was given till the end of the season... My point is it was one rule for one and one for another. Shakespeare is doing a fantastic job but he has been with us for all this same time. Therefore it's unfair to purely point the finger at CR for our own downfall which led to that situation. Once again, I'm just pointing out the man deserves our respect for what he has done for our club. He's a true gentleman and I'm going to disagree with people who generally seem to think that there was no element of players underperforming for the majority of this season. To say it was because they didn't understand CR's tactics/choices after last season, you can therefore assume they are questioning him as the manager then? Surely they are grounded enough to realise that this year was going to be more difficult? Agree it's a collective and the club comes first. I respect the owners and always will for what they have done for my club. But it's clear that modern day footballers have very lucrative jobs with very little responsibility. I'm just glad they have stepped up performances under Shakespeare. Big difference between the 2 situations. We never looked out of matches under Pearson before the great escape. Did we ever lose by more than 2 goals? The performances were there under Pearson and quite simply not under Ranieri this season for a variety of reasons. The way I read your post suggested that Ranieri was at no fault at all for how this season was turning out. Aslong as we all remember the good that Ranieri done for our club. I've seen people suggest we still would hav won the league with Pearson cause Ranieri inherited the team. Nonsense. As I said previously. Ranieri has my upmost respect and I will always love the man as we all should. This season though I'm afraid he had to go for the good of the clubs future. Whether we would hav survived if he stayed is neither here nor there. We will never know. The fact remains we hav turned it around so in the end the decision was the right one
dannythefox Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 He won't spill the beans about what happened he'll only tell them what he wants to. Also he probably say the players didn't have anything to do with it much to caraghers disgrace because that's all he'll want him on the show for, to try and cause shit.
Matt Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 http://www.football-italia.net/100321/ranieri-shocked-leicester Quote Claudio Ranieri admits he felt “surprise even more than bitterness” at the Leicester City sack. “It was a shock. I’d never experienced anything like that.” The Italian tactician received a special award yesterday and today spoke to inmates at the Rebibbia prison in Rome. “Thinking of the dismissal by Leicester, the first thing that comes to mind is a sense of surprise even more than of bitterness,” said Ranieri, who was axed nine months after winning the Premier League. “I had gone through a lot in my long career, but I’d never experienced anything like that. It was a shock. Even though, at the end of the day, these things happen in football. “This is my world. I started coaching in the Interregionale league in Catanzaro. There were pitches with no grass, at times we had no water, no training equipment. I had to do it all myself. “I never hitched my wagon to anyone, so what I achieved over the years was done with only my results on the field.” Ranieri was on the stage in this Q&A with the Mayor of Amatrice, who are trying to rebuild after the devastating earthquake. “He is the real giant,” noted Ranieri. “I am just a Coach who had the good fortune to win a title with a fantastic adventure and then the disappointment of what happened afterwards. “We achieved something remarkable by winning with Leicester and I hope that Amatrice can live their own fairy-tale.” Leicester City started getting results together again after Ranieri was sacked, but he refused to answer questions about that. “Sky Sports in England asked me to commentate on a game on April 10 and I accepted. I don’t want to talk about it until then. It all started in England, so it seems right to resume in England.”
Vardinio'sCat Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 CR is saving it up for Monday! http://www.football-italia.net/100321/ranieri-shocked-leicester
MrSpaM Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 “Sky Sports in England asked me to commentate on a game on April 10 and I accepted. I don’t want to talk about it until then. It all started in England, so it seems right to resume in England.” Crystal Palace V Arsenal? Or England Women V Austria Women?
yorkie1999 Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 Bit of a sticky situation for Claudio, it's not in his, or anyone else's interest to show bitterness towards the club or the players, after everything is said and done, they did give him a premiership title and if they did speak to the owners, after being questioned on what was going wrong, Claudio can hardly turn round and imply they went behind his back because they work for the club and obviously had the clubs, and not Claudio's, interests at heart. That shows loyalty to the club, in my eyes, and not just sucking up to a manager because he chooses who gets picked and plays. I can't understand why some people can't see it from the players perspective in that they have shown that, at whatever cost, it's the club that is the most important thing. If we went down, who would be to blame, not Claudio he delivered us a prem title, it would be the players everyone would blame.
fuchsntf Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 56 minutes ago, Izzet is God said: Totally agree that the club comes first. I'm just pointing out the other side of the coin. By all means I'm not defending that Ranieri made strange and wrong decisions this season by changing certain things. However, his record for us and overall, speaks for itself. I'm not saying that he definitely would of kept us up, just purely pointing out that no one will ever know if he would of because the decision was made. I respect the decision was made doesn't mean I have to agree with it. The points you've highlighted in my post about how the its a collective and we were woeful for a long time - I just want to put this to you then, 25 games of the premier league this season CR had and once again we were not in the bottom 3 until after he was sacked...we were also still in the Champions League and FA cup at that point. We were bottom of the league 2015 under NP with less points at 25 games and he was given till the end of the season... My point is it was one rule for one and one for another. Shakespeare is doing a fantastic job but he has been with us for all this same time. Therefore it's unfair to purely point the finger at CR for our own downfall which led to that situation. Once again, I'm just pointing out the man deserves our respect for what he has done for our club. He's a true gentleman and I'm going to disagree with people who generally seem to think that there was no element of players underperforming for the majority of this season. To say it was because they didn't understand CR's tactics/choices after last season, you can therefore assume they are questioning him as the manager then? Surely they are grounded enough to realise that this year was going to be more difficult? Agree it's a collective and the club comes first. I respect the owners and always will for what they have done for my club. But it's clear that modern day footballers have very lucrative jobs with very little responsibility. I'm just glad they have stepped up performances under Shakespeare. Easy assumtions on presumptions.. Splitting hairs on league position for one weekend, so no real point of That argument.. NP comparison of 1st Pl season. Fans wouldnt of been given the agreed mandate and targets, and if 1 full season was given to NP.?? Plus, the story of the sacking that never was. Young Top Not following big Tops agreements. So for me a non story, On what was "One rule for one and one for another"..totally different circumstances and Situation. More importantly, What the hell is the point, in the walk of life there are no fair or moral rules. Oh except one the chef is always right. On under performing and the players not giving all.. I will give you another thought, whether its correct I have no idea... The players believed in Ranieri, they kept playing his lines, his less pressing game, trying to hold the ball longer, They wanted it to work, because they trusted him. He himself believed it would turn. There was no deliberate conscientious thought to undermind the Don, as a team or individual players. They played their game often facing the wrong way , holding the ball longer, where the oppo forced them to play, the ball sideways or back, No dynamic forward surges, no link play being created, but still believing, because they are champs, it would come right. The release was not the sacking, but Shakey probably telling them to press and drive forward, and go back to their own basics. Nothing mind-solar busting, no great technical shake up, just football at its simplest, the players still may have no idea or understand the subtle change...It seems non of us do,!!! So many looking for scapegoats, player conspiracies, bad guys, incompetence here or there. It maybe just, everybody was trying too hard to be honest ,loyal and respectfull to each others Title involvement, and new small change ideas from the coaching and management, must work....They all knew or let themselves believe that the new season would need, big changes to carry on at an acceptable level..why because everybody was telling everybody...So they actually did stay loyal to Claudios ideas.. Its a good a presumption, than any other, and I am an optimist and believe in the good guys role.Not the spitefull shit thats going around.. I believe in angels...
ealingfox Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 2 hours ago, Izzet is God said: Totally agree that the club comes first. I'm just pointing out the other side of the coin. By all means I'm not defending that Ranieri made strange and wrong decisions this season by changing certain things. However, his record for us and overall, speaks for itself. I'm not saying that he definitely would of kept us up, just purely pointing out that no one will ever know if he would of because the decision was made. I respect the decision was made doesn't mean I have to agree with it. The points you've highlighted in my post about how the its a collective and we were woeful for a long time - I just want to put this to you then, 25 games of the premier league this season CR had and once again we were not in the bottom 3 until after he was sacked...we were also still in the Champions League and FA cup at that point. I think your notion that he might have kept us up and your ignoring the Millwall game are probably connected...
TheSomersetFox Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 Can see it being pretty uncomfortable to watch in fairness. Claudio not slagging off the players whilst not embarrassing himself by saying anything weird would be perfect
AmarteyAndChill Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 3 minutes ago, Goober said: Can see it being pretty uncomfortable to watch in fairness. Claudio not slagging off the players whilst not embarrassing himself by saying anything weird would be perfect I agree. He won't say anything to hush the snake rumours but won't rat the players out while carragher bangs the anti Leicester bandwagon drum with Neville following.
fuchsntf Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 55 minutes ago, AmarteyAndChill said: I agree. He won't say anything to hush the snake rumours but won't rat the players out while carragher bangs the anti Leicester bandwagon drum with Neville following. Snakes and Rats...send in the mongoose...thats my theory...
Guest Bob Hazels shorts Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 Even if he was allowed he will not rubbish the club. I am reliably told that Pearson has a very lengthy clause in his exit deal, up to 10 years that seems excessive. Fair to say he may have said something by now. From the horses mouth an ex employee of a much lower stature but some inc me would say very important who was 'let go' by the club gave very little away in the media and was warned off from saying anything by the clubs solicitors. He didn't have a silence deal. There is no way that Claudio will be allowed to spill the beans. Apart from that the club have hardly committed a crime.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 9 minutes ago, Bob Hazels shorts said: Even if he was allowed he will not rubbish the club. Agreed. He's a man of class and he won't say anything unexpected imo. Hopefully it stirs up a bit more criticism though, that the players have been feeding off recently!
Bazly Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 If CR had remained in place how many points would we have got from the games against Liverpool, Hull and West Ham? One, maybe a heady three if the team actually managed to score and Hull didn't - never nine. The side would be in the bottom three for a month and a bolt on for relegation. So lets hope his full contract term £10mn severance package sweetens the deal and he can just smile when thinking of that stormy day on the 7th of May 2016.
lgfualol Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 Part of me hopes he goes bezerk, calling someone harmless like Marc Albrighton a cvnt in the process.
AmarteyAndChill Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 1 hour ago, filbertway said: I hope he actually takes some of the blame. Same
sylofox Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 16 hours ago, Matt said: http://www.football-italia.net/100321/ranieri-shocked-leicester Won't talk about it until he's on Sky. What's the fee then? He may say more than some think.
sylofox Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 19 minutes ago, lgfualol said: Part of me hopes he goes bezerk, calling someone harmless like Marc Albrighton a cvnt in the process. Rather he goes crazy tells Carra he knows fvck all about what went on. That's he's way off the mark and should keep his cvntish comments to himself. Then after punching the cvnt walks off. Why would you want the shame on our club?
Gerard Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 16 hours ago, yorkie1999 said: Bit of a sticky situation for Claudio, it's not in his, or anyone else's interest to show bitterness towards the club or the players, after everything is said and done, they did give him a premiership title and if they did speak to the owners, after being questioned on what was going wrong, Claudio can hardly turn round and imply they went behind his back because they work for the club and obviously had the clubs, and not Claudio's, interests at heart. That shows loyalty to the club, in my eyes, and not just sucking up to a manager because he chooses who gets picked and plays. I can't understand why some people can't see it from the players perspective in that they have shown that, at whatever cost, it's the club that is the most important thing. If we went down, who would be to blame, not Claudio he delivered us a prem title, it would be the players everyone would blame. Good post. I just can't accept the players turned on Ranieri for no good reason nor can I accept the players were just lazy and didn't run for him. If the players did go "behind his back" they did it with the best intentions at heart because they want to be successful and they felt Ranieri was incompetent.
Gerard Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 2 hours ago, Bazly said: If CR had remained in place how many points would we have got from the games against Liverpool, Hull and West Ham? One, maybe a heady three if the team actually managed to score and Hull didn't - never nine. The side would be in the bottom three for a month and a bolt on for relegation. So lets hope his full contract term £10mn severance package sweetens the deal and he can just smile when thinking of that stormy day on the 7th of May 2016. We can only speculate but I think it's fair to say we wouldn't be sat on 30pts and in the Champions League QF. Considering we had just been knocked out the FA Cup by a League One side, took 1 pt from 18 in the last six league games without scoring a goal and should really have been out of sight against Sevilla. It's not just the results but the performances were terrible, how long do you give him considering all that?
st albans fox Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 if he has designs on another job then he wont rubbish the club or the owners. no prospective employer will want to see that. if he is intent on retirement then he might be rude about the owners or DOF, but he wont rubbish the players.
Guest Foxin_mad Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 Hopefully he comes out admits he ****ed it up, the players played his shit tactics, he had no game plan he got rid of members of the title winning backroom staff and calls every member of the Sky Sports panel a **** live on air. If he does that he will firmly cement himself as the most legendary manager we have ever had. Unlikely though has he is stubborn and proud, he will probably spout some gibberish about lions and warriors like his last few press conferences here.
Nalis Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 41 minutes ago, Foxin_mad said: Hopefully he comes out admits he ****ed it up, the players played his shit tactics, he had no game plan he got rid of members of the title winning backroom staff and calls every member of the Sky Sports panel a **** live on air. If he does that he will firmly cement himself as the most legendary manager we have ever had. Unlikely though has he is stubborn and proud, he will probably spout some gibberish about lions and warriors like his last few press conferences here. He already has cemented himself as the most legendary manager we have ever had.
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