Thracian Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 8 minutes ago, weller54 said: One more victory gives us 39 points. Not sure that's enough. I usually reckon we need to match points with games played to survive and, so long as our goal difference isn't dramatically negated, I'd reckon 39 points should do it because there will be the factor of relegation rivals playing each other and at least one of them having to pick up points at a considerably better average than they've done so far and in a highly nerve-wracking situation. But I could be wrong. I've also considered one other factor and that is that a couple of our fixtures may involve others currently outside but close to the main relegation area who might themselves be needing say a point to be sure of surviving and it's not impossible there'd be a game in which both teams would survive with a draw. I'm sure it wouldn't be the first time neither of two contestants went flat out to beat the other due to the risks of conceding on the counter! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 20 minutes ago, Thracian said: Our failings earlier in the season - and especially in January - have left us in a seriously awkward situation which is complicated by our glaring lack of suitable reinforcements in certain areas. However, given our goal difference and the still considerable potential there is for progressing still further in the Champions League, I can only conclude that we should keep our nerve and continue to make the Champions League result the priority. Why? Because I think we'll lose against Palace anyway and because we have other fixtures further on which offer us a more realistic chance of collecting the single victory which we need to secure our Premiership status through being 100 per cent fit, focused and undistracted. But it still leaves me feeling uncomfortable because I'm hoping for things which might not come about. A cross all We fans have to bear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammie82uk Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 Stat time Crystal Palace have alternated between victory and defeat in their four home Premier League games against Leicester, keeping a clean sheet in each win and failing to score in each defeat. After winning just one of their first six Premier League games against Crystal Palace (D1 L4), Leicester have since won the last three in a row. Indeed, this is the first time Leicester have won three in a row against the Eagles in all competitions since March 1925 – they’ve never won four consecutively against them. Sam Allardyce has won his last two home games against reigning Premier League champions as a manager, beating Manchester City with West Ham in 2014-15 and beating Chelsea with Sunderland in 2015-16. Crystal Palace have won five of their last six Premier League matches (L1). Before this run, they’d won five games in 26 attempts in the Premier League. Both Crystal Palace and Leicester have won 15 of a possible 18 points in their last six Premier League games – the only side to have won more points in their last six PL matches are Spurs (18). The Eagles have won their last three league games at Selhurst Park – they haven’t won four top-flight home games in a row since December 1990. Wilfried Zaha and Andros Townsend had yet to be born when this occurred. Wilfried Zaha has assisted nine goals for Crystal Palace in the Premier League this season, equalling the record by an Eagles’ player in a single PL campaign (Wayne Routledge, nine in 2004-05). Leicester City have won four and lost just two of their eight Premier League away games in London since the start of last season (W4 D2 L2) Islam Slimani has scored 35 league goals since the start of 2015-16, 16 of which have been from headers (46%). In the same period, Crystal Palace have scored just one more headed goal in the league (17). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Fox Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 I think there will be rotation, but it will be the players who did not play against Everton will come in, and those who started against both Everton and Athletico will be rested with the exception of Kasper. As for relegation if we win one game between now and the end of the season Swansea need to win 4 of their 6 or Hull need 3 wins and a draw. With only Southampton and WBA already on a beach, I don't think either side are good enough to go on this sort of run. Swanseas failure to beat either Boro or West Ham in recent weeks will be their undoing and I expect them to struggle away at Watford and Man Utd, with Everton at home also an incredibly tough game. For us Kapser Simpson Huth Benny Chilwell (Fuchs is getting on and will need another rest, Chilwell is the best of our second string and will be fine) Mahrez (will give Jeff nightmares) King Ndidi Gray Okazaki Slimani Their full backs are not well supported by their wingers and Their full backs like to get forwards. Gray and Mahrez will get lots of space. Going 2-0 City and safety assured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizerud Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 I'd play Slimani, Ulloa and just fuching hoof it all game. Maybe give Mendy a game if fit, perhaps even play Fuchs (for a half) or Amartey at CB if that is what we are planning to do on Tuesday. Gray obviously for Albrighton but maybe give Albrighton 30 minutes like we did against Sunderland. Would take a draw. We have to sacrifice this game even though we're still capable of winning it with mostly second string. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxonMaui Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 If Shakey has any idea to play Armartey at center back against Athletico, then he has to start him in this game to see how he does. Even if Wes starts against Athletico we still may need Armartey if Wes breaks down. I would give Albrighton and Fuchs only 45 minutes and rest Drinkwater and Riyad. Start Slimani to keep him sharp and give Ulloa at least 30 minutes. Play Gray for 90 minutes. We have to see that we have the energy needed to defeat Athletico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burleighfox Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 Happy to take a draw at Palace seeing as they're on a run and we're probably going to have a couple of changes in preparation for the second leg. A point would be massive, but we have to be a lot ore organised and battle more than we did at Everton otherwise that front four could destroy us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamark Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 was forgetting Mahrez and Jeff ,Riyad will put him on his backside at some point .Gray could do some damage here and I would rest Vardy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Danny Clender Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 Whilst I recommend thee to suck an egg. The problem with resting players and accepting defeat in this particular game is, if we win against Athletico then we'll be in the same position 2 or 3 weeks down the line when the semi's are played. The Everton game was a luxury and the rotation/resting worked really well, but I see this is a game we can get points from. That means playing full strength. Shakey really does know best though, so in all honesty I have no worries at all. The team will have a plan. I've not believed in a manager so much since Pearson in League 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiv Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 Morgan is out. Shakey said he's 50/50 for Atletico on Tuesday too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WigstonWanderer Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 Play Mahrez one half and Gray the next. Whichever one performs better should get a start against AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royston. Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 If we were 100% up for this we'd probably win but we spent 90 minutes in Spain trying to keep Tuesdays return leg alive. 3-0 palace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUltimateWinner Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 Sounds like we'll be seeing Amartey at CB on Saturday judging by CS comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 3 hours ago, FoxonMaui said: If Shakey has any idea to play Armartey at center back against Athletico, then he has to start him in this game to see how he does. Even if Wes starts against Athletico we still may need Armartey if Wes breaks down. I would give Albrighton and Fuchs only 45 minutes and rest Drinkwater and Riyad. Start Slimani to keep him sharp and give Ulloa at least 30 minutes. Play Gray for 90 minutes. We have to see that we have the energy needed to defeat Athletico. Is Wes definitely out then? For the Athletico game I mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue ROI Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 They dont have the same intimidating presence as atletico away but if we were told that we were playing a team in the Champions League who have recently beaten Chelsea away and Arsenal to a lesser extent we'd be wary. Sam would love to beat us.No end of smugness after if it happens. I'd settle for a draw as it would keep us just ahead of Palace with their tough games after.Spurs playing Bournemouth beforehand is ideal from the point of teams close to us and would be good to keep the 2 clubs at arms length. A bit awkward for the fans who go. Security will be on their toes after Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CityFan 06 Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 I think two more wins would see us safe. Need one here really otherwise Palace will continue to make up ground on us. Don't want to be dragged into it again, and we cannot be complacent or take our foot of the gas as we're not safe. I'd take a draw in this one, however. For the record even when Palace were struggling under Allardyce to start with, I still felt he'd get them right, and seemingly has done. Very good at keeping teams up. Good manager at the end of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiv Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 21 minutes ago, foxfanazer said: Is Wes definitely out then? For the Athletico game I mean He's 50/50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 3 massive games in 6 days is bonkers... Our squad hasn't got the depth to handle that schedule.. Can only see defeats against Palace and Atletico I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammie82uk Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 Interesting comment from Shakespeare about our defense surely we ain't changing formation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karljohn Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 Mahrez should be capable of doing at least 60 mins along with Shinji. Think he might give Leo a go as he gives us something defensively too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 weakened team = tonking 3-4 - 0 and we are back among the mix.. We will not win the CL.. PL survival is far more important.. I find it crazy how some people think we are safe already.. Full strength team please Shakey.. Go down and you (Shakey) will not be here come August and the Club will be facing a financial disaster and the prospect of trips to Bristol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drofmor55 Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 9 hours ago, Wizerud said: I'd play Slimani, Ulloa and just fuching hoof it all game. Maybe give Mendy a game if fit, perhaps even play Fuchs (for a half) or Amartey at CB if that is what we are planning to do on Tuesday. Gray obviously for Albrighton but maybe give Albrighton 30 minutes like we did against Sunderland. Would take a draw. We have to sacrifice this game even though we're still capable of winning it with mostly second string. I would love us to do that ...why do teams always leave until the last ten minutes of a game to do it can see us doing this for the last ten minutes on Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red5 Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 4 minutes ago, mozartfox said: weakened team = tonking 3-4 - 0 and we are back among the mix.. We will not win the CL.. PL survival is far more important.. I find it crazy how some people think we are safe already.. Full strength team please Shakey.. Go down and you (Shakey) will not be here come August and the Club will be facing a financial disaster and the prospect of trips to Bristol. Not a chance, weakened team and throw the palace game, we need everything for the Champions league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue ROI Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 Live on Sky Sports 5 Ireland tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truebluethroughandthrough Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 1 hour ago, mozartfox said: weakened team = tonking 3-4 - 0 and we are back among the mix.. We will not win the CL.. PL survival is far more important.. I find it crazy how some people think we are safe already.. Full strength team please Shakey.. Go down and you (Shakey) will not be here come August and the Club will be facing a financial disaster and the prospect of trips to Bristol. Come on man! Dilly ding dilly dong, we're champions league man. Show some ambition. its the pinnacle of club football for god sake. Surviving in the premier league is important, yes but it's not the be all and end all, especially as we have wealthy but more importantly, honourable owners who will see us right. We are now 3 games away from the biggest game there is in club football and the way some fans talk it's as if we've got some unwanted midweek away game to Barnsley. I say rest every fooker, including the fans. We all need to be fresh and ready. I was going to say we all need to be fit but I'd need considerably more time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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