Gylfi Sigurdsson

[chapero82]

1 hour ago, Ashley said:

Come on Chap the Mercury has posted shit for ages, if Everton really do want him why eould theu match our bid which was rejected and public knowledge?

If he wanted to come then why didn't he kick up a fuss then like he has now? 

[cc_star]

10 minutes ago, chapero82 said:

If he wanted to come then why didn't he kick up a fuss then like he has now? 

Exactly, he could have had a word when we put the bid in weeks ago

 

Everton raise their bid... and he throws his toys out the pram

 

It's obvious he wants to go there

 

/close thread

[Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo]

Why would anyone want to go to Everton, the whole place is dog shit central

[TJB-fox]

2 hours ago, Babylon said:

They are decent solid signings and should improve them. We know ourselves that it's about the unit rather than the names on the back of the shirt sometimes, they could work flawlessly together and romp it. That does happen once in a blue moon though. Them getting top 4 will need a big swing in form from them and a drop in form from others.

 

I wouldn't be shocked if some of their youngsters outshine quite a few of the recent signings.

Nah I don't mean that you need big big names to succeed, but I just don't think they look MUCH stronger than they have in recent Years 

[Johnthefoxrayner]

14 minutes ago, Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo said:

Why would anyone want to go to Everton, the whole place is dog shit central

Agreed. But he still isn't going to sign for us. IMO might as well close the thread on this one

[Babylon]

1 minute ago, TJB-fox said:

Nah I don't mean that you need big big names to succeed, but I just don't think they look MUCH stronger than they have in recent Years 

Probably not, especially when you consider whatever striker they get is likely to be worse than Lukaku and someone like Sigurdsson will only marginally outperform Barkley at best should he go.

[cc_star]

2 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Probably not, especially when you consider whatever striker they get is likely to be worse than Lukaku and someone like Sigurdsson will only marginally outperform Barkley at best should he go.

Rooney is a busted flush & he'll have to work harder at Everton, Lukaku going is a massive loss for them, Sig is better than Barkley, but not that much

 

Gueye will be the source of their success, has even better stats than Kante 

[Leicester_Loyal]

Personally I think Sigurdsson is much better than Barkley. Saying that, Everton will do very well to finish in the top 6 this year.

[dylanlegend]

3 minutes ago, cc_star said:

Rooney is a busted flush & he'll have to work harder at Everton, Lukaku going is a massive loss for them, Sig is better than Barkley, but not that much

 

Gueye will be the source of their success, has even better stats than Kante 

Everton won't be as good as people think. As you say, Lukaku is a huge loss and all they have done is sign a few average players, bar Rooney

[katieakita]

Could just as easily spin a negative story. They already have a couple of player who could play in the same position and they are trying to muscle in on the top 6 by selling their best player to the team who finished 6 and bringing in a player who plays in the same position possibly as Sigurdsson from this 6th place team who was surplus to requirements and could not get into the match day squad and making him their highest paid player. Everton need to hit the ground running and if these players do not gel we can expect a backlash, Arsenal and  Man Utd had poor seasons  last year but both still look a level above Everton

[Babylon]

3 minutes ago, cc_star said:

Rooney is a busted flush & he'll have to work harder at Everton, Lukaku going is a massive loss for them, Sig is better than Barkley, but not that much

 

Gueye will be the source of their success, has even better stats than Kante 

It's a strong looking team to be fair, certainly enough there if they add a quality striker to be pushing those ahead of them.

 

Pickford

 

Coleman   Keane   Williams   Baines

 

Schneiderlin  Gueye

 

Bolasie    Klaassen   Sigurdson

 

Rooney

 

Lookman, Davies, Ramierz, Barkley (if he stays), Mirallas, Jagielka, Lennon, Mori, Besic

 

[cc_star]

2 minutes ago, Babylon said:

It's a strong looking team to be fair, certainly enough there if they add a quality striker to be pushing those ahead of them.

 

Pickford

 

Coleman   Keane   Williams   Baines

 

Schneiderlin  Gueye

 

Bolasie    Klaassen   Sigurdson

 

Rooney

 

Lookman, Davies, Ramierz, Barkley (if he stays), Mirallas, Jagielka, Lennon, Mori, Besic

 

Forgot they'd signed Keane, Pickford & Schneiderlin & Bolasie

 

Bloody hell, yes... that is a good team and Koeman is obviously a good mgr

[Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo]

10 minutes ago, dylanlegend said:

Everton won't be as good as people think. As you say, Lukaku is a huge loss and all they have done is sign a few average players, bar Rooney

Even if the players they have signed were all great, it still doesn't mean they'll do well - how many times have a team had as big an influx of new players in one window and achieved anything? Never works.

[Callabinho]

He was always going to go to Everton..looking at it from a none bias point of view, Everton are much better suited to his style of play....he doesn't strike me as a player to chase money either...so I would have been stunned if he had chosen us! 

[Stevosevic]

12 minutes ago, Babylon said:

It's a strong looking team to be fair, certainly enough there if they add a quality striker to be pushing those ahead of them.

 

Pickford

 

Coleman   Keane   Williams   Baines

 

Schneiderlin  Gueye

 

Bolasie    Klaassen   Sigurdson

 

Rooney

 

Lookman, Davies, Ramierz, Barkley (if he stays), Mirallas, Jagielka, Lennon, Mori, Besic

 

Am I the only one that thinks they'll still have  a problem with their defence? 

 

I think they'll still give plenty of chances away

[Fox 4 Life]

2 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

Am I the only one that thinks they'll still have  a problem with their defence? 

 

I think they'll still give plenty of chances away

Their defence looks class! My concern would be the goals, Rooney is not what he was and they have too many attacking midfielders.

[talking_goldfish]

It is crazy that this is still going! Page 101? This thread should be in Room 101!!

 

Admittedly, he hasn't signed for anyone yet, but the fact that he wasn't chomping at the bit to sign for us when we put in our £40m bid a few weeks ago, when he has now thrown his toys out the pram when Everton put in a (slightly lower) bid speaks volumes!

 

The only way we get him now is if we put in an accepted bid and Everton refuse to budge on theirs and GS believes he can't now go back and play for Swansea. But IMO even if Everton don't raise their bid he'd be quite happy to stay at Swansea, at least until the Winter transfer window.

[cc_star]

2 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

Am I the only one that thinks they'll still have  a problem with their defence? 

 

I think they'll still give plenty of chances away

• Gueye is Kante
• Schneiderlin is obviously very accomplished at ball recovery in a way similar to Lennon was for us
• Not much gets past Baines & Coleman
• Williams & Keane will head clear all day.... much like Huth & Morgan did for us
• Pickford will take care of pot shots

 

I think that's utter class tbh, will be very difficult to score against

 

If they got Slimani or similar up front, then he could hold the ball for all the attacking midfielders... I would bet on them being top 4

 

I think that's a hell of a team and in Koeman they've got a good man, Walsh is very good at assessing character of players before signing them too

[DJ Barry Hammond]

2 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said:

Their defence looks class! My concern would be the goals, Rooney is not what he was and they have too many attacking midfielders.

 

Wouldn't put it past Keoman to play without a fixed striker. He may just go for 3 interchanging attacking midfielders. 

 

At least from that defence we should get to see how good Pickford really is... it's a lot easier as a Keeper if you're constantly involved in games / have an array of shots to save. The true test is where you're only called on once, maybe twice in a game, at a key moment, and you make that save.  

 

 

[DJ Barry Hammond]

31 minutes ago, katieakita said:

Could just as easily spin a negative story. They already have a couple of player who could play in the same position and they are trying to muscle in on the top 6 by selling their best player to the team who finished 6 and bringing in a player who plays in the same position possibly as Sigurdsson from this 6th place team who was surplus to requirements and could not get into the match day squad and making him their highest paid player. Everton need to hit the ground running and if these players do not gel we can expect a backlash, Arsenal and  Man Utd had poor seasons  last year but both still look a level above Everton

 

Won't be easy to start well, because although they're gifted an inviting home game against Stoke, they then face Man City and Chelsea away, before welcoming Spurs - on paper it's a tough start. 

 

That said, Chelsea look behind the curve this season, so maybe they'll be vulnerable early on and Spurs' early season form could depend on how well they adapt to Wembley (they'll probably enjoy a trip to Goodison because it's similar to the Lane). 

[Stevosevic]

13 minutes ago, cc_star said:

• Gueye is Kante
• Schneiderlin is obviously very accomplished at ball recovery in a way similar to Lennon was for us
• Not much gets past Baines & Coleman
• Williams & Keane will head clear all day.... much like Huth & Morgan did for us
• Pickford will take care of pot shots

 

I think that's utter class tbh, will be very difficult to score against

 

If they got Slimani or similar up front, then he could hold the ball for all the attacking midfielders... I would bet on them being top 4

 

I think that's a hell of a team and in Koeman they've got a good man, Walsh is very good at assessing character of players before signing them too

We must have been watching a very different Baines over the years

 

I have doubts about all of their back 4 tbh and jury is still out on Pickford. 

[Babylon]

19 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

Am I the only one that thinks they'll still have  a problem with their defence? 

 

I think they'll still give plenty of chances away

 

17 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said:

Their defence looks class! My concern would be the goals, Rooney is not what he was and they have too many attacking midfielders.

I would say there are question marks there, Williams and Baines are 33 soon, jagielka 35 and Coleman is still returning from a serious injury. Mori is out injured for a while also. It certainly needs looking at in the next year. But if their plan is over several years they have the time.

 

 

[katieakita]

9 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

 

Won't be easy to start well, because although they're gifted an inviting home game against Stoke, they then face Man City and Chelsea away, before welcoming Spurs - on paper it's a tough start. 

 

That said, Chelsea look behind the curve this season, so maybe they'll be vulnerable early on and Spurs' early season form could depend on how well they adapt to Wembley (they'll probably enjoy a trip to Goodison because it's similar to the Lane). 

Crap atmosphere? yes remember under MON Villa were spending plenty trying to crack the top 4 or 5 but fell short, Everton look good on paper but so do plenty of others, Everton will need time which they probably don't have much of

[AmarteyAndChill]

42 minutes ago, cc_star said:

• Gueye is Kante
• Schneiderlin is obviously very accomplished at ball recovery in a way similar to Lennon was for us
• Not much gets past Baines & Coleman
• Williams & Keane will head clear all day.... much like Huth & Morgan did for us
• Pickford will take care of pot shots

 

I think that's utter class tbh, will be very difficult to score against

 

If they got Slimani or similar up front, then he could hold the ball for all the attacking midfielders... I would bet on them being top 4

 

I think that's a hell of a team and in Koeman they've got a good man, Walsh is very good at assessing character of players before signing them too

Kantè is so much better than Gueye 

[foxes21]

Some interesting stats regarding Sigurdsson:

 

Chances created last season: 72

52 of them were from set pieces.

38 of the 52 were from corners.

 

He finished 72nd in the league for chances created from open play.

 

Source: http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/10947289/gylfi-sigurdsson-to-everton-is-the-swansea-man-value-for-money