Gylfi Sigurdsson

[foxfanazer]

1 minute ago, ROB-THE-BLUE said:

Swansea will be dead certs to go down without Siggy IMO

100%

[Clever Fox]

8 hours ago, Beechey said:

Any scout worth his salt can see the players they are signing are quality. Walsh is more a moneyball scout I think.

I think you're misjudging Walsh. Any Scout as good as him will spot Talent from Schoolboys all the way to the very best. You only have to look at Vardy Mahrez etc all the way up to Drogba, Fabragas Lukaku, Etc at Chelsea. It actually gets easier the higher up the Money ball you go.

[st albans fox]

23 minutes ago, mozartfox said:

They have a new Sponsorship Deal with a Chinese Bank worth UKP100M, so they can flash the cash.

 

Move on and lock this thread it weren't to be.

Their nett spend isn't so large at the moment. However, once they have replaced lukaku and bought gylfi, will be in the 60/80m region. Take off 20m for Barclay and that's around 50m nett spend. Hardly earth shattering for a club that have under invested over the years and now have one of the wealthiest men in Europe behind their majority shareholder. (Not that it's publicised but Jim whites reaction to Alan Brazil saying it a few days ago convinced me that it's true) 

 

They have to keep some money back for their new stadium. Cashing in on a couple of big assets and replacing with good signings is perhaps what we should have considered a year ago but the club felt it fairer to allow those who had got us to our pinnacle to be allowed to continue the adventure.  selling Riyad and NG for combined 70m is probably good business if your recruitment is good. of course, had NG not had his bloody release clause we would be talking nearer 90m the pair. 

 

On topic, we were told weeks ago that GS wasn't interested in coming here. I suspect that was communicated to the club very early. Be interesting to see if Kelechi is the only attacking player we recruit who can play in the ten role. 

[Clever Fox]

44 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

Everton look to be doing great business and your post smacks of envy.

I don't think I'd disagree with any of their buys so far this summer. Even old Rooney will give them a different option.

Its an exciting time to be an Everton fan.

I think the envy comes from the fact that we had Walsh here and were stupid enough to let him go. H'es doing a great job at Everton as I expected he would.

With the record he has did anyone expect otherwise.

With the signings they've made their real candidates for top 6 If they can get them to gel quickly then maybe even higher.

They're looking like Spurs when challenging us.  I'm sure the Everton fans are glowing with anticipation for next season. 

[Bunyip]

3 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

I think the envy comes from the fact that we had Walsh here and were stupid enough to let him go. H'es doing a great job at Everton as I expected he would.

With the record he has did anyone expect otherwise.

With the signings they've made their real candidates for top 6 If they can get them to gel quickly then maybe even higher.

They're looking like Spurs when challenging us.  I'm sure the Everton fans are glowing with anticipation for next season. 

It had nothing to do with us being " stupid " he wanted to  go for several reasons. To be nearer his family  and he supported Everton as a child plus it was a step up for his career. Buying players left right and center as Everton are doing doesn't often bring success, let's wait and see for all we know they may have a disastrous year.

[Beechey]

20 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

I think you're misjudging Walsh. Any Scout as good as him will spot Talent from Schoolboys all the way to the very best. You only have to look at Vardy Mahrez etc all the way up to Drogba, Fabragas Lukaku, Etc at Chelsea. It actually gets easier the higher up the Money ball you go.

That's fair but not really what the original point was. It doesn't take a Steve Walsh to see that Gylfi, Klaasen, Keane, Pickford etc are quality footballers.

[foxes21]

1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

 

Kinda but the signings we've made look a lot like we're retaining our system. In which case, a lot of our creativity comes from wider channels and someone like Cafu or Boudebouz is much better equipped to provide it than Gylfi.

 

Ihenacho actively wants to play at ten. We'd struggle to fit both him and Sigurdsson there meaning Sigurdsson would be competing with DD and Ndidi for a spot and we've just signed Iborra for that.

100% this.

We don't need a creative 10 in our system, we need creative wingers.

[AKCJ]

22 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

I think you're misjudging Walsh. Any Scout as good as him will spot Talent from Schoolboys all the way to the very best. You only have to look at Vardy Mahrez etc all the way up to Drogba, Fabragas Lukaku, Etc at Chelsea. It actually gets easier the higher up the Money ball you go.

He had nothing to do with Fabregas or Lukaku.

[Thracian]

5 hours ago, AmarteyAndChill said:

£32m? Well, at least Swansea are going to take up one of the 3 relegation places next season.

I wouldn't presume that but i can imagine a tricky situation growing at Everton because it's never easy keeping an abundance of talented players happy nor to mould a cohesive team from so many options.

 

Competition for places will help in terms of effort but not necessarily in relation to an effective teamwork. 

 

The news indicates to me that Shaky was long aware of Sigurdsson's intentions and concentrated instead on putting the pieces he needed into his own jigsaw, assuming everything concludes with Iheanacho as indicated.

 

If so, I think he's done well and further strengthened the squad as it stood.

 

He clearly has other targets too having suggested another 2/3 players might arrive yet.

 

   

 

     

[Clever Fox]

8 minutes ago, Beechey said:

That's fair but not really what the original point was. It doesn't take a Steve Walsh to see that Gylfi, Klaasen, Keane, Pickford etc are quality footballers.

Yes you're right they're all good players.  But it also takes someone with a special skill to pick the players that will fit the system. Which is another skill which very often goes

unnoticed.  

[st albans fox]

11 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

He had nothing to do with Fabregas or Lukaku.

Funny thing -  i had spotted fabregas at Barca .........

 

im waiting to see a Walsh signing at Everton  - all those they have made thus far have been very much 'out there'. possibly lookman but even he wasn't much of a secret. 

[yorkie1999]

9 hours ago, daz*dsb said:

I hope Everton ****ing struggle tbh next season. I doubt they will and it's pretty unfounded but **** it, I hope they struggle. 

 

They're clearly trying to get some strength in depth so they don't fall apart with Europa League to play.

 

**** them. 

Take lukakus 25 goals in the league away from them last season and they'd have been relegated. 

[Livid]

16 minutes ago, Beechey said:

That's fair but not really what the original point was. It doesn't take a Steve Walsh to see that Gylfi, Klaasen, Keane, Pickford etc are quality footballers.

I kind of torn between whether it's an easy gig for him or he's wasting his talent up there.

 

Maybe it's less stress more cash, just gerr'um in.

 

Doesn't exactly take much work to spot the players they're bringing in though.

[Clever Fox]

15 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

He had nothing to do with Fabregas or Lukaku.

You're right about Fabragas I forgot he started at Arsenal coming from Barcas development pool. But I thought Chelsea signed lukaku while Walsh was there. But I stand corrected.

[Livid]

7 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

Yes you're right they're all good players.  But it also takes someone with a special skill to pick the players that will fit the system. Which is another skill which very often goes

unnoticed.  

Koeman will be carrying the can if it all goes belly up. 

 

Walsh got their targets in, it's over to Ronald now!

[Tielemans63]

26 minutes ago, Bunyip said:

It had nothing to do with us being " stupid " he wanted to  go for several reasons. To be nearer his family  and he supported Everton as a child plus it was a step up for his career. Buying players left right and center as Everton are doing doesn't often bring success, let's wait and see for all we know they may have a disastrous year.

Agree with this. Think people need to stop criticising the club for his departure. He wanted to move back closer to his family in the north west and wanted to work for his boyhood team like you said. Also, it's worth mentioning that he'd literally just signed a new contract and then obviously ****ed it off just a few weeks later. We've been negligent in letting some key staff go but the club didn't do much wrong on this one.

[SheppyFox]

Someone tell Everton deals can't be done this fast as it isn't like FM in the real world.

[I am an Ostrich]

Walsh will be scapegoat, I get the impression that Koeman isn't that comfortable with the set up there anyway.

[Clever Fox]

8 minutes ago, Thracian said:

I wouldn't presume that but i can imagine a tricky situation growing at Everton because it's never easy keeping an abundance of talented players happy nor to mould a cohesive team from so many options.

 

Competition for places will help in terms of effort but not necessarily in relation to an effective teamwork. 

 

The news indicates to me that Shaky was long aware of Sigurdsson's intentions and concentrated instead on putting the pieces he needed into his own jigsaw, assuming everything concludes with Iheanacho as indicated.

 

If so, I think he's done well and further strengthened the squad as it stood.

 

He clearly has other targets too having suggested another 2/3 players might arrive yet.

 

   

 

     

You're spot on again Thracian, it's always difficult to integrate players into a team. To do it with so many at once can be even more difficult no matter how talented they are.

I think you're also right with Shakey on hearing the price Swansea wanted he quickly moved onto Iheanacho as his preferred target. If he can pull this one off we'll be so much stronger than last season. Even if Mahrez does leave. Which I'm still not sure he will.

Onwards and Upwards we go.

[SheppyFox]

I won't lie and say i wouldn't find it exciting if 7-10 players were signed, but considering the practical side of doing so presents a lot of potential issues, id like us to get kelechi done and then 2 more  

[RODNEY FERNIO]

Amartey , Musa , Kapuksta , Mendy , Ulloa , James , Lawrence .... none really needed .. should be enough to buy Siggy with plenty left over.

Quality beats quantity every time.t

[foxes21]

Swansea fans seem to think the latest rumours are untrue.

 

It is the Mirror after all.

[Clever Fox]

12 minutes ago, Livid said:

Koeman will be carrying the can if it all goes belly up. 

 

Walsh got their targets in, it's over to Ronald now!

I'm sure one of them will. the word i heard from Everton is that they don't really get on. Koeman likes to be his own man and I suspect he's not too happy with others picking the targets to sign. Either way they have a lot of talent there now and it could either work well or they could crash and burn.

[Kitchandro]

1 hour ago, AKCJ said:

Oh right well thats that then

 

He would suit our style of play perfectly.

Would he? He has a shocking tendency to slow the game down and do something in 5 touches he could have done in one.

 

That is the opposite of what we need.

[AKCJ]

2 minutes ago, Kitchandro said:

Would he? He has a shocking tendency to slow the game down and do something in 5 touches he could have done in one.

 

That is the opposite of what we need.

He's an upgrade on Drinkwater.