Gylfi Sigurdsson

[HankMarvin]

6 hours ago, Ozwin said:

How are Everton funding all this? Sure they're getting £75M for Lukaku but they're signing bloody loads of players and presumably on massive wages too.

 

I must've missed the part where they were taken over by bazzilionaires.

Barkley likely to leave also 

[vanity]

 

9 hours ago, Thracian said:

At this stage I'd rather worry about signing an exciting but proven winger and and an additional right back. No, I've nothing against Simpson whatsoever.

He's been a rock in our defence week in, week out. But we've got no convincing cover nor the option of a different style of full-back should the need arise.     

 

Either way we need back-up.

 

 

Maguire plays some RB, doesn't he? I know he cannot play two spots at once, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him play a bit of RB with Huth and Wes/Benny in the middle. Would be a terrific way to integrate him.

[AmarteyAndChill]

52 minutes ago, vanity said:

 

Maguire plays some RB, doesn't he? I know he cannot play two spots at once, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him play a bit of RB with Huth and Wes/Benny in the middle. Would be a terrific way to integrate him.

Play the best CB right back, good idea. 

[Johnthefoxrayner]

11 hours ago, Col city fan said:

Everton look to be doing great business and your post smacks of envy.

I don't think I'd disagree with any of their buys so far this summer. Even old Rooney will give them a different option.

Its an exciting time to be an Everton fan.

Everton seem to have more ambitions than us

[Old Fox]

54 minutes ago, vanity said:

 

Maguire plays some RB, doesn't he? I know he cannot play two spots at once, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him play a bit of RB with Huth and Wes/Benny in the middle. Would be a terrific way to integrate him.

You don't spend £17m to play your CB out of position.....all this player can also fill in is bloody rubbish ...this is the prem so if we need a RB (we do!) then we will sign one as competition.

 

The most likely way Maguire will start is if we play a 3 than less there is an injury 

[vanity]

4 hours ago, AKCJ said:

We'll have to agree to disagree then. I think Barkley's beats Drinkwater in the highlighted areas, but you've only given a small amount of areas in which a top Prem midfielder should excell.

 

 

What position would be play Gylfi in then? We're signing Iheanacho to play off the striker. Sigurdsson can't play in a 2 yet people are keen to splurge 40m on him. I know that Barkley plays closer to the striker but I think he can play in a more central role and has done many times for club and country.  I personally feel that Barkley and Ndidi would complement each other nicely and that if the price was about 20-25m then we should be all over it. Barkley (as you can see from the link below) has similar attacking stats to Sigurdsson. But apparently it's double and Spurs are keen. That's Spurs with a midfield that pisses all over ours. Tells you something.

 

http://www.squawka.com/comparison-matrix#premier_league/2016/2017/gylfi_sigurdsson/819/641/863/46/p|premier_league/2016/2017/ross_barkley/819/641/475/0/p#successful_passes/key_passes/chances_created/total_shots/goals_scored/assists/shot_accuracy/pass_completion/total_forward_passes#total

 

We are definitely going for positional flexibility to some extent with our recruiting, as well as seeking players with more well-rounded skill sets than we have managed in the past. Players like Maguire and Gibson as CBs would allow us the option of our CBs bringing the ball fwd, which we could not do the last two seasons, and which was an obvious weakness against pressing teams like Athletico and Sevilla. Bringing in players like Iborra and Gylfi would give us MFs skilled at helping bringing the ball fwd, for instance operating as double pivots to assist Maguire come fwd, or simply to move well without the ball to keep an open outlet for whomever is on ball. 

 

I don't think we would have any trouble fitting Gylfi in. One straightforward way to do so would be to play him in our base 4-4-2 and swing Gylfi out to the left, defend out of that and then when we have the ball, have Gylfi play a hybrid AML/FWL role (which is what he played the most last season for Swansea). He would play a role very similar to Mahrez, just from the other side. The main question there would be how our defense would hold up if we played Gray opposite him on the right, though Gylfi gets back well enough, and he would have Ndidi/DD behind in support. 

 

That same formation could also accommodate Nacho slipping back into an AMC role, paired with Ndidi in the middle, Gylfi at LM and Drinky as RM, and we could play Slim and Vardy fwd. That strikes me as a particularly balanced formation, with plenty of defensive ability in the MF, but also one that would preclude the defense from keying in any one area, as any of 3 of our 4 MF could initiate the attack (perhaps 4 of 4, though I haven't been terribly impressed with Ndidi's passing TBH). The idea here is to have flexibility. We were one-dimensional at times last season, with the attack going through Mahrez, and Mahrez struggling with a second defender. This would allow us to attack through a variety of MFs (obviously they wouldn't all need to go fwd) . At different times they would each switch roles to force the defense away from what it wants to do, and we would be exceedingly difficult to defend schematically.

 

Alternatively, we have been after another CB like Gibson, if we got one, wouldn't we look to play Gylfi behind Nacho and Vardy? For the purposes of visualization, a 3-5-2 with Gylfi playing between the fwds and MF, or a 3-2-3-2 like Barca will sometimes play, with Ndidi and DD paired, and then Gylfi fwd flanked by Gray and Albrighton and then have two of Nacho/Vardy/Slim fwd.

 

[st albans fox]

31 minutes ago, Johnthefoxrayner said:

Everton seem to have more ambitions than us

Everton have just sold their best player - that's not quite the ambition they need! 

[DJ Barry Hammond]

8 hours ago, Ozwin said:

How are Everton funding all this? Sure they're getting £75M for Lukaku but they're signing bloody loads of players and presumably on massive wages too.

 

I must've missed the part where they were taken over by bazzilionaires.

 

They brought in bazzilionaires last year I believe. That's one of the reasons Ron went there.

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-takeover-farhad-moshiri-who-10959138.amp

[Dan]

On 7/6/2017 at 14:12, MikeyT said:

Dean Jones on Twitter:

 

Everton told they will have to pay £40million for Gylfi Sigurdsson. Doesn't sound too bad in this market!
More ? ble.ac/2sJq7T9

People have gone genuinely mad. It's funny to watch. £40mil for Sigurdsson isn't "not bad". He's not even particularly young.

[Happy Fox]

Just now, Dan LCFC said:

People have gone genuinely mad. It's funny to watch. £40mil for Sigurdsson isn't "not bad". He's not even particularly young.

 

But he is a consistent performer in the premier league, yes the price is inflated by about 15 million I would say, but he would be worth it for us.

[Sig fanboy]

5 hours ago, desertfox2 said:

Assuming Iheanacho is a done deal where would Sigurdsson play? Unless maybe we go 343

 

If Iborra starts then even Drinkwater won't get a game. Ndidi must be a banker to start.

 

Mahrez goes we need a like for like. But as it is we are probably looking at.

 

Mahrez.  Ndidi.  Iborra.  Albrighton.

 

                 Iheanacho

 

                  Vardy

Gylfi can play number 8 in 4-4-2 system. He does that for Iceland. I personally thinks he's equally good in that role. Althought most people in England thinks he can only play as a number 10.  He is worst suited to the wing role. Thats why he did not succed at Spurs. That and Tim Sherwood thought it was good idea to put Eriksen and Kyle Walker on set pieces instead of Gylfi.

 

He has everything to be a box to box midfielder. He covered most ground in the whole league last season(more than Kante).  He could be a good fit with Drinkwater, Iborra or Ndidi. 

[StanSP]

4 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

People have gone genuinely mad. It's funny to watch. £40mil for Sigurdsson isn't "not bad". He's not even particularly young.

I bet if we forked out £40m for him the media would call it bad  

[Sol thewall Bamba]

3 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

People have gone genuinely mad. It's funny to watch. £40mil for Sigurdsson isn't "not bad". He's not even particularly young.

The madness is from people on here losing their minds about us not signing him, when no one's really linked us with him solidly. 

 

As I've said before the whole Gilfi situation is just an echo chamber within our fanbase.

[Jacnah]

Just now, Sol thewall Bamba said:

The madness is from people on here losing their minds about us not signing him, when no one's really linked us with him solidly. 

 

As I've said before the whole Gilfi situation is just an echo chamber within our fanbase.

i think you're spot on here. perhaps there was interest but it came to nothing or was knocked back. This is deader than dead

[ARM1968]

Very dead?

[vanity]

21 minutes ago, Old Fox said:

You don't spend £17m to play your CB out of position.....all this player can also fill in is bloody rubbish ...this is the prem so if we need a RB (we do!) then we will sign one as competition.

 

The most likely way Maguire will start is if we play a 3 than less there is an injury 

Respectfully, Maguire playing at RB is hardly him playing out of position. Big difference between slotting him in as a CAM or forward, and having him back-up Danny Simpson at RB. He played a couple times last season at RB, and has played it at other times in his professional career.

 

I mentioned Maguire at RB not just bc he has played it and could do it in a pinch, but because we still have Wes and Huth (and Benny for that matter) and IDK how exactly the transition is going to go over. Playing him alongside Huth and Morgan might be an easy way to slide Maguire into the starting line-up a bit more gradually, and allow the veterans to impart some of their knowledge in a gameday situation. In the long-term, of course Maguire is a CB. But in the short-term, both Wes and Huth can still play, and if we add another CB like we are trying, we will have an awful lot of defenders without enough playing time to go around.

 

IDK whether we would want an older or younger RB as a back-up. We also have Josh Knight on the u-23 who plays RB at times, as well as Choudhoury, who it is indicated some believe should be playing RB. Knight is well-regarded from what I recall, he came up with Elliot Moore in May before the Tottenham game. Depending on how we see him, and how long we see Simpson continuing with the club.

 

I am all for competition at every position, including a RB to challenge Simpson. But if we add that other CB, not sure how many defenders we will carry. 

 

 

[dannythefox]

Can't see us going anywhere near him. He's probably got better options than us.

[Finnegan]

5 hours ago, AKCJ said:

I think we pissed off sides that like the pretend they're big clubs like Spurs, West Ham and Everton more than the actual big clubs when we won the league.

 

Oh yeah definitely. Most fans of clubs like United and Chelsea and Man City that I know find it pretty amusing we won the league.

 

It's no biggy for them, they're used to winning or being in contention anyway.

 

It's definitely the fans of other mid table club that have been saltiest about it.

[Milo]

8 hours ago, Ozwin said:

How are Everton funding all this? Sure they're getting £75M for Lukaku but they're signing bloody loads of players and presumably on massive wages too.

 

I must've missed the part where they were taken over by bazzilionaires.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-takeover-farhad-moshiri-who-10959138

 

 

[Milo]

6 hours ago, st albans fox said:

That's the point. You can't leave an on form Riyad out of the starting line up but unless he plays wide he isn't so effective. restricts us to playing a certain way. Ironically, No Riyad means more choice for us

I've not seen an on form Riyad for a while, but I would still want to keep him. Don't think it restricts choice tbh. 

[katieakita]

Everton are spending a wedge to get top six after finishing 7th last year for those thinking this spending from them should do the trick just remember Man Utd finished 6th last year and they have just bought Everton's best player.

[vanity]

1 hour ago, AmarteyAndChill said:

Play the best CB right back, good idea. 

Not quite what I was suggesting. Maguire played games at RB last season, he rated exceedingly well at RB when he did so, and it seemed worth noting. Especially as I keep hearing we have "no cover" if Simpson goes down. We do have cover. We simply do not have optimal cover. 

 

Further, I remain curious about how the transition from the Huth/Wes partnership will look. If everyone else is certain that is absolutely dead and we'll never see it again, ok. But if we do plan to play them together at times, I'd like Maguire to get the benefit of playing with them at least some of the time. Immediate replacement can damage clubhouse chemistry, and Wes and Huth are important to the identity of this team. Maguire on the field with them strikes me as desirable. A transition period of sorts may be desirable.

 

I have no issue with a back-up RB. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[weller54]

3 minutes ago, katieakita said:

Everton are spending a wedge to get top six after finishing 7th last year for those thinking this spending from them should do the trick just remember Man Utd finished 6th last year and they have just bought Everton's best player.

You can't buy team spirit! 

As we know,  that's what guarantees success. 

[Wortho]

I can't see Everton being any better than last season.

[Trav Le Bleu]

23 minutes ago, Wortho said:

I can't see Everton being any better than last season.

Not without a goal threat. Without Lukaku and the other players they've bought, they'll be as dangerous as a crocodile with no teeth.