funkyrobot Posted 20 June 2017 Share Posted 20 June 2017 3 hours ago, Rusko187 said: Sooo if we got this guy, kept Mahrez, Slim, Ndidi, Amartey, Musa and brought in Iheanacho... will we even have a team next time the ACON comes knocking? We can't afford to lose Musa and Ndidi again like we did this year when Nigeria were at AFCON17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 20 June 2017 Share Posted 20 June 2017 Yes we would - in the AFCON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 20 June 2017 Share Posted 20 June 2017 As someone who doesn't really follow European football, how do you pronounce his surname? Boo - Da - Booze ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 20 June 2017 Share Posted 20 June 2017 1 hour ago, funkyrobot said: We can't afford to lose Musa and Ndidi again like we did this year when Nigeria were at AFCON17 Joking aside, after their opening group match defeat this month, it's very possible that Nigeria will fail to qualify for the 3rd AFCON in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheppyFox Posted 20 June 2017 Share Posted 20 June 2017 3 hours ago, the fox said: Booh-dah-boo-zh 20 minutes ago, Tuna said: As someone who doesn't really follow European football, how do you pronounce his surname? Boo - Da - Booze ??? Yeah I think you're right matey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 20 June 2017 Share Posted 20 June 2017 Booing da booze? That's criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonFox Posted 20 June 2017 Share Posted 20 June 2017 51 minutes ago, Tuna said: As someone who doesn't really follow European football, how do you pronounce his surname? Boo - Da - Booze ??? I was saying Boo-da-boo-urns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmayne7 Posted 20 June 2017 Share Posted 20 June 2017 5 hours ago, Rusko187 said: Sooo if we got this guy, kept Mahrez, Slim, Ndidi, Amartey, Musa and brought in Iheanacho... will we even have a team next time the ACON comes knocking? Is he still recording music? Must be lonely now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinekersApples Posted 21 June 2017 Share Posted 21 June 2017 Last I heard he was locked up and they wouldn't let him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamba's Babes Posted 21 June 2017 Share Posted 21 June 2017 15 hours ago, HoustonFox said: I'm gonna get killed on here for saying this, but he looks like a slower version of the Riyad* that we have already got. Two of them would be insane though - we'd have a spare when the real one runs out of form. *I'm aware he spells it Ryad... But who will defend? It's imperative that a player voted in the top 10 Ballon D'or primarily for his attacking talents defends with gusto isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 21 June 2017 Share Posted 21 June 2017 20 hours ago, lcfc sheff said: Much better video than the one previously posted her Interesting video for a highlight reel, because the first 9/10 minutes frustrated me massively... yes the guys clearly got talent, but what the video was telling me is this a guy that doesn't know how to use it. If you're wondering what I'm on about, watch the video again and look at how many times the play gets slowed down through him, spot the good runs that are made that are ignored at times, or ultimately how it feels he's made the wrong pass. He's a raw talent no doubt and given as a club we would demand that he releases the ball earlier there's mutual opportunity from growth here, so I'm not against us pursuing this transfer ... the fact he looks a lot like our current Riyad isn't missed on me either... but it's clear there'd be work we'd have to do with first if we got him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the fox Posted 21 June 2017 Share Posted 21 June 2017 1 hour ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: 1-Interesting video for a highlight reel, because the first 9/10 minutes frustrated me massively... 2-yes the guys clearly got talent, but what the video was telling me is this a guy that doesn't know how to use it. 3-If you're wondering what I'm on about, watch the video again and look at how many times the play gets slowed down through him, spot the good runs that are made that are ignored at times, or ultimately how it feels he's made the wrong pass. He's a raw talent no doubt and given as a club we would demand that he releases the ball earlier there's mutual opportunity from growth here, so I'm not against us pursuing this transfer ... the fact he looks a lot like our current Riyad isn't missed on me either... but it's clear there'd be work we'd have to do with first if we got him. 1- it must be frustrating watching an actual talented midfield that isn't afraid of the ball instead of a workhorse. 2-he doesn't know how to use his talent? Wow, second to messi! That's must be nice! And here are his playmaking stats against a £70 million player And leading Europe's top 5 leagues in chances created. 3-nitpicking at its finest, not even the elite players can spot every overlapping player in every action. It comes down to this, a flair/creative player is never good enough. Its always a combo of: he doesn't defend enough, he doesn't release the ball quick enough, he tries to do too much. It's no secret that English fans prefer a hard worker, they rarely fault a workhorse for lack of creativity/talent but they can't stop talking about how an ATTACKING player isn't defending enough. That's evident with how mahrez is slated for not defending but simmo gets a free pass for some reason, that will tell a thing or two. (Just to clear things out, don't care if we sign him or not, the post wasn't about him but about flair/creative players and the double standard that they are held to) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 21 June 2017 Share Posted 21 June 2017 12 minutes ago, the fox said: 1- it must be frustrating watching an actual talented midfield that isn't afraid of the ball instead of a workhorse. 2-he doesn't know how to use his talent? Wow, second to messi! That's must be nice! And here are his playmaking stats against a £70 million player And leading Europe's top 5 leagues in chances created. 3-nitpicking at its finest, not even the elite players can spot every overlapping player in every action. It comes down to this, a flair/creative player is never good enough. Its always a combo of: he doesn't defend enough, he doesn't release the ball quick enough, he tries to do too much. It's no secret that English fans prefer a hard worker, they rarely fault a workhorse for lack of creativity/talent but they can't stop talking about how an ATTACKING player isn't defending enough. That's evident with how mahrez is slated for not defending but simmo gets a free pass for some reason, that will tell a thing or two. (Just to clear things out, don't care if we sign him or not, the post wasn't about him but about flair/creative players and the double standard that they are held to) Interesting post. I have also seen it mirror imaged with Mahrez and Simpson: Simpson has moaned at Mahrez for not tracking back, but I have seen Mahrez throw his hands up in frustration after breaking on the counter, trying to hold up the ball for as long as he could and then losing it because nobody came up to support him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted 21 June 2017 Share Posted 21 June 2017 Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiimmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the fox Posted 21 June 2017 Share Posted 21 June 2017 8 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said: Interesting post. I have also seen it mirror imaged with Mahrez and Simpson: Simpson has moaned at Mahrez for not tracking back, but I have seen Mahrez throw his hands up in frustration after breaking on the counter, trying to hold up the ball for as long as he could and then losing it because nobody came up to support him Thing is, a fullback-winger partnership is "give and take". We defend together and we attack together, I can understand both player's frustration but anyone can tell that mahrez is doing more to help simmo on the defensive side. I'm OK with criticising a player as long as you follow the two golden roles: 1- your criticism must be constructive, so don't just slate a player for the sake of slating him. And 2- don't be a hypocrite. If you are gonna criticise one player's weakness, you must do the same for every other player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 21 June 2017 Share Posted 21 June 2017 Get. Him. In. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted 21 June 2017 Share Posted 21 June 2017 Some of those early through balls look made for Vardy (and Ihenacho!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 21 June 2017 Share Posted 21 June 2017 We're obviously not gonna get Sigurdsson, so stop playing around and get this dude signed up. Hurry the fook up n all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 21 June 2017 Share Posted 21 June 2017 Spend dat money This guy at CAM will transform the team. Someone that can pass!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beechey Posted 21 June 2017 Share Posted 21 June 2017 I'm dreaming but imagine having Vardy Albrighton Boudebouz Mahrez Silva Ndidi Fuchs Huth Maguire Simpson Schmeichel Give me that team, or one without Mahrez but with someone equally decent on the wing. Maguire on the right of CD so Ndidi can give him cover as he forces the ball forwards I think would be best for him. Boudebouz hopefully making solid passes that split a defence for Vardy to run onto, or feeding the wingers for a cross into Slimani. Either system would be much better to what we have now with just smashing the ball over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted 21 June 2017 Share Posted 21 June 2017 35 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: Get. Him. In. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted 21 June 2017 Share Posted 21 June 2017 2 hours ago, the fox said: 1- it must be frustrating watching an actual talented midfield that isn't afraid of the ball instead of a workhorse. 2-he doesn't know how to use his talent? Wow, second to messi! That's must be nice! And here are his playmaking stats against a £70 million player And leading Europe's top 5 leagues in chances created. 3-nitpicking at its finest, not even the elite players can spot every overlapping player in every action. It comes down to this, a flair/creative player is never good enough. Its always a combo of: he doesn't defend enough, he doesn't release the ball quick enough, he tries to do too much. It's no secret that English fans prefer a hard worker, they rarely fault a workhorse for lack of creativity/talent but they can't stop talking about how an ATTACKING player isn't defending enough. That's evident with how mahrez is slated for not defending but simmo gets a free pass for some reason, that will tell a thing or two. (Just to clear things out, don't care if we sign him or not, the post wasn't about him but about flair/creative players and the double standard that they are held to) I take your point but not every team can acommodate a flair player, let alone two, especially when you are a low possession team like us. So the question is, what is more effective in a team like ours? A workhorse like Okazaki or a much more talented player that might drift in and out with no defensive qualities? I;m not sure we could afford the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 21 June 2017 Share Posted 21 June 2017 I'm happy for us to take that risk. We might actually score more and push teams back with a CAM that is capable of more than just running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyrobot Posted 21 June 2017 Share Posted 21 June 2017 15 hours ago, brucey said: Joking aside, after their opening group match defeat this month, it's very possible that Nigeria will fail to qualify for the 3rd AFCON in a row. They were literally unbeaten in AFCON17 though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_77 Posted 21 June 2017 Share Posted 21 June 2017 I take your point but not every team can acommodate a flair player, let alone two, especially when you are a low possession team like us. So the question is, what is more effective in a team like ours? A workhorse like Okazaki or a much more talented player that might drift in and out with no defensive qualities? I;m not sure we could afford the latter.We need players who can threaten the opposition. We didn't have enough options last season and made it too easy for the other sides to shut us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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