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Posted
7 minutes ago, Babylon said:

It's not evidence!!!!! It's a make believe points scoring system for christs sake.

 

If it's evidence and it's such a perfect scoring system then you need to accept they rated James higher than the others. Not start with the "yeah buts...".

 

Its either perfect or it ain't, you can't pick or choose to suit.

 

I choose to ignore it based on the fact I've seen too many games where their scoring system doesn't remotely follow what actually happened on the pitch. As I've argued for several years.

vrt phone bored annoyed eye roll GIF

 

I have all ready explained why in the Arsenal game, the Brighton game which as the easiest of the 3 he was the worst rated starter of the "make believe points scoring system" 

 

On a side note you didnt mind referencing the site that makes the make believe points scoring system  

when its suited your argument

Posted
2 hours ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

What's that rating you are quoting?

 

That aside, I was at OT and after a tiring day at the end of the match, I was underwhelmed by the two in midfield, and James was getting a lot of stick by the end from our fans.

 

Having watched the game Sunday morning, it was clear that James had done alright, and had actually played the better of the two. Wilf was clearly at fault for the goal.

 

Without Kante, it is too much to expect any two players to get the better of that Man Utd midfield who had three in there.

 

It is simply too big a job.

 

Whilst I realise we had injuries, maybe we should consider that

the manager should think about this aspect of his tactics and set up differently against a force such as that team is. They have better players than we do, yet we continue with the central two

constantly, knowing they will be out numbered from the start.

 

It's ridiculous that people are looking to blame the players under these circumstances,

who by 70 mins after chasing and harrying are tiring.

 

This is the time when mistakes are made.

 

Shakespeare apparently was Pearson's tactian. He had James and Cambiasso as the two, and for all his pedigree and greatness  Cambi,let's face it could not run. Then It was a disaster until tactics were changed.

 

Its a pattern, and I feel Shakey needs to change what we have seen so far; at least in certain games.

That's why Gray would of been a better option than Albrighton, utd would of been more wary pushing forward , just look at his little cameo though his decision making was poor he caused them problems.

Posted
20 minutes ago, Bluetintedspecs said:

Sooooooooooooo....... Drinkwater?

 

 

 

 

 

Didn't you hear, he signed for them yesterday in David Lloyds while doing front crawl.

Posted
1 minute ago, Costock_Fox said:

Didn't you hear, he signed for them yesterday in David Lloyds while doing front crawl.

Well I'd be more impressed if it was whilst doing the butterfly it's a far more demanding and technical stroke :)

Posted
2 minutes ago, Bluetintedspecs said:

Well I'd be more impressed if it was whilst doing the butterfly it's a far more demanding and technical stroke :)

You surprise me I thought you would only know one stroke lollol 

Posted
45 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

vrt phone bored annoyed eye roll GIF

 

I have all ready explained why in the Arsenal game, the Brighton game which as the easiest of the 3 he was the worst rated starter of the "make believe points scoring system" 

 

On a side note you didnt mind referencing the site that makes the make believe points scoring system  

when its suited your argument

Yes when it's factual, it's not a factual points scoring system that fairly apportions points. Hence why the top point scorers at the end of the season are all strikers or ACM. 

 

You can play shit for 90 minutes, get an assist off your arse and walk away with MOTM.

 

Anyway, this is boring.

Posted

You can tell from the Manchester United game that his presence in midfield is sorely missed.

N'Didi seemed like a headless chicken at times, going back and forth.

James is ok, but without Drinkwater - the defence seems to lack strength.

Hope Iborra is as good as some on here think he is.

Posted
13 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Yes when it's factual, it's not a factual points scoring system that fairly apportions points. Hence why the top point scorers at the end of the season are all strikers or ACM. 

 

You can play shit for 90 minutes, get an assist off your arse and walk away with MOTM.

 

Anyway, this is boring.

Its boring but you suffer from repetitive post syndrome, so felt the need to post that anyway.

 

Who cares about who is top scorers, if all defenders (midfielders and forwards)are rated the same way - it gives an in-depth comparison.

 

You should start putting a check list as your signature, 

  • Don't post links from Babylons unapproved journalists list.
  • Don't post ratings from anything other than Squawka.
  • Don't have an opinion unless its based on by facts that have been pre approved by Babylons regulations 2017
  • Don't disagree with your opinion too often or you will be told you have an agenda. 
Posted
1 hour ago, Gerard said:

 

If we keep Mendy then we have plenty of options in central midfield, people may not like them but we do have plenty of bodies in that area.

 

Ndidi

James

Iborra

Mendy

King

Amartey

Does not fill me with confidence .... very little creativity in the six names mentioned ... might get five assists in a season if your lucky from the lot of them

Posted
3 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Its boring but you suffer from repetitive post syndrome, so felt the need to post that anyway.

 

Who cares about who is top scorers, if all defenders (midfielders and forwards)are rated the same way - it gives an in-depth comparison.

 

You should start putting a check list as your signature, 

  • Don't post links from Babylons unapproved journalists list.
  • Don't post ratings from anything other than Squawka.
  • Don't have an opinion unless its based on by facts that have been pre approved by Babylons regulations 2017
  • Don't disagree with your opinion too often or you will be told you have an agenda. 

But you were comparing james to everyone on the pitch and using a those ratings to suggest he was the worst on the pitch. You see the problem there when you seemingly agree it's weighted in favour certain positions and events.

 

Good idea about the checklist probably easier to just block idiots.

Posted
1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

James McCarthy is the replacement if Chelsea offer the £40 million. Horrifying news.

 

 

Ewwwww.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

James McCarthy is the replacement if Chelsea offer the £40 million. Horrifying news.

 

Say it ain't so

Posted
20 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said:

You can tell from the Manchester United game that his presence in midfield is sorely missed.

N'Didi seemed like a headless chicken at times, going back and forth.

James is ok, but without Drinkwater - the defence seems to lack strength.

Hope Iborra is as good as some on here think he is.

I agree with a lot of what you say but, as regards Drinkwater, I thought our midfield was frequently overrun last season and, for the most part, didn't look much better than it has for the past few games. For all Ndidi's promise, I felt that remained the case after he signed.

 

I don't think Drinkwater has been the crucial factor in our two man central midfield units. Since our promotion to the PL, we've only ever really bossed the centre of the park - if you can call it that with our possession stats - with Kante in the side, or with a three.

 

Before that we looked best with a three-man unit, and since then when we've looked good, we've tended to look good in spite of being stretched in the middle.

 

The Chelsea interest probably stems from a belief that he's a solid player whom Kante can bring the best out of. Without Kante (including early last season when people were, incorrectly I thought, saying how fantastically he was playing), he's struggled. And, injury or no, he was either going to improve this year or, if we wanted to advance, be improved on.

 

So I'm not sure he's a magic wand.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

3rd bid on its way for DD

 

 

 

If we aren't happy with the quality of replacement we just say no. Simple as that.

 

I am sure DD has enough respect for the lads, the manager and the club to just get on with it.

Posted
Just now, Babylon said:

But you were comparing james to everyone on the pitch and using a those ratings to suggest he was the worst on the pitch. You see the problem there when you seemingly agree it's weighted in favour certain positions and events.

 

Good idea about the checklist probably easier to just block idiots.

R.P.S strikes again. lol

 

typing GIF

 

 

Posted
1 minute ago, Babylon said:

If we aren't happy with the quality of replacement we just say no. Simple as that.

 

I am sure DD has enough respect for the lads, the manager and the club to just get on with it.

I'd be concerned if we had too many players on our books who didn't feel they were going places with us. Last year the lack of purpose and drive was an even bigger problem than Kante's absence - as a whole there was a sense of 'realistically, how much better is it going to get for me at Leicester?' That was how the title hangover manifested itself. And with the CL still to play for too. 

 

It's a worry that, if we get off to a poor start and are looking mid-table at best after 8 or 9 games, that lack of purpose will resurface. For this reason, there's a good chance that our answers may lie in players who weren't caught up in the fairy-tale. If we show too much faith in those who were then, as professional as the likes of Drinkwater may be, and as willing as they are to just get on with it, I wonder whether the same mood will take grip.

 

I'm sure a club can cope with a few grumbles, but if there's a widespread feeling of wanting out then it may be worth helping a few of them along the way. Whether Drinkwater ends up falling into that category or not, I don't know.

Posted
11 minutes ago, Babylon said:

If we aren't happy with the quality of replacement we just say no. Simple as that.

 

I am sure DD has enough respect for the lads, the manager and the club to just get on with it.

We've wanted McCarthy now for a few seasons. Sadly it sounds like we're happy to replace Drinkwater with him as long as Chelsea chuff up the £40 million.

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