No strong incoming rumours

[ealingfox]

Why delete the Goretzka thread ffs let a man dream that we aren't a clueless mediocre outfit

[dpjfox]

if we can get Chambers and Siva and maybe lose DD and Mahrez then imo that would be fine ie in addition to Harry and Iheanacho, a decent window

[Foxes1]

8 minutes ago, dpjfox said:

if we can get Chambers and Siva and maybe lose DD and Mahrez then imo that would be fine ie in addition to Harry and Iheanacho, a decent window

Don't forget we also signed Ulloa and James on new deals.

[Dr The Singh]

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

Without huge investment, top of the second level is our level other than the odd venture into the top 7. We're going for organic growth and not pumped up steroid growth like Chelsea and Man City. That sort of growth should be measured over 5 - 10 years rather than a few years.

So is everyone else on the organic diet, were not improving anytime soon

[Koke]

If noboxy leaves and nobody arrives, will people be happy/content wirh that?

[foxgas]

Would it save a lot of anxt, time and trouble if football clubs put these want away players on some sort of eBay site with a reserve and  buy it now price? If any other type of company ran it's business like football they would soon go bust. It's only mugs like me that buy season tickets and subscribe to TV services that finance this merry-go-round that keeps this craziness going. As all the money coming in goes out again to players,agents and foreign clubs there will have to be a reckoning one day when the mugs stop shelling out.

 

 

 

 

 

[Livid]

Has Rudkin took August off ?

[mozartfox]

It is shame it did not take last August off.

[Sir Shep]

Think it's fair to say we won't be signing anyone which is fine although I'd like to have seen our defence strengthened, if we do end up selling I can only assume they'll be a last minute panic loan! 

[Foxes1]

1 hour ago, mozartfox said:

It is shame it did not take last August off.

And January as well, although we did get Ndidi.

 

and Molli Wague

[vanity]

2 hours ago, mozartfox said:

It is shame it did not take last August off.

It is, though he is the contract guy, not the talent selection guy. He actually did a great job last August. The breakdown was down the chain. Still, your point stands.

[mozartfox]

1 minute ago, vanity said:

It is, though he is the contract guy, not the talent selection guy. He actually did a great job last August. The breakdown was down the chain. Still, your point stands.

My theory is just before Walsh left he curropted our scouting soft ware with the 'Turkey-virus'.   

[vanity]

3 hours ago, Babylon said:

We were always going to go backwards, there was no other way to go. 

 

We didn't win the league because we had a set of amazing players, it was about a system that worked perfectly. Systems can be figured out, by the time people had done that we'd got our noses in front and we ground it out. But now people do find it a bit easier to play against because we just don't have a massive set of world class players like the top 6, it's easier to break a system than it is a set of top class players. We could never realistically replace all the players that needed replacing in that team with the required quality to stay there long term.

 

How could we replace one of the best players in the world, it was impossible. It will never happen, it was a one off getting the fella. But the centre depth is far stronger now than it was last season, presuming DD stays. Don't confuse ambition with poor buys, the owners have backed us with money, but the recruitment has got it wrong.

 

The squad just wasn't good enough to keep doing it Kitch, too many limited footballers. The top 6 have spent hundreds of millions to get there. You can't expect a group of bargain buys to stay there. Buying well last summer would have helped, but even then it's a ridiculous ask.

 

 

Just to amplify this point -- we were always going to go backwards in league table positioning. But the squad has more talent than the title-winning team, assuming this Silva and CB deal go through, and Mahrez stays -- that is the new goal, improving the squad. The tactics may no longer be as effective, other teams may have improved, but on its day, LCFC can still give anyone the business. 

 

The next logical step, other than simply talent acquisition and depth, which was last season, is to start building a fully functional unit. The title winning team had far too many one-dimensional players, players who cannot pass accurately, players who cannot maintain possession. So what do we do? We bring in players who can keep possession and pass accurately. We brought in a CB to help us get out the back in Maguire, and a MF comfortable playing as a pivot in Iborra, though we've missed him due to injury. We can play Iborra and Silva in games like the one against Man U, where we struggled like hell to get the ball out of our third of the field. I'd say we have to, to have a real shot at winning. If Dragovic comes in, we now have an excellent passing/dribbling pairing, as Dragovic excels at the longer passes that we really don't do now other than to clear 50-50 balls up the field. He has aim and hits his targets, he has stopped world class strikers, he ranges well up the field for pass interceptions so as to kill counter attacks, and has great speed to recover if caught out. He's a brilliantly vicious player who fills all sorts of needs for us. 

 

I see improvements on the ball all over the field. Iheanacho is an upgrade on Shinji. Iborra and Silva are upgrades on our CMs, Maguir and Dragovic are an upgrade on our CBs. Not saying we are Arsenal, but now we have some horses to stop the pressing that kills us. The longer we keep possession, the fewer chances teams like Man U get, the more chances we potentially get. We can still be a counter-attacking team while keeping possession after successful defensive stops. 

 

Shaky and management are doing a great job, seriously. Their vision is clear. Their upgrades are needed and smart. They aren't spending like drunken sailors. It is pretty awesome to see this team on the way up.

 

 

[Babylon]

3 minutes ago, vanity said:

Just to amplify this point -- we were always going to go backwards in league table positioning. But the squad has more talent than the title-winning team, assuming this Silva and CB deal go through, and Mahrez stays -- that is the new goal, improving the squad. The tactics may no longer be as effective, other teams may have improved, but on its day, LCFC can still give anyone the business. 

 

The next logical step, other than simply talent acquisition and depth, which was last season, is to start building a fully functional unit. The title winning team had far too many one-dimensional players, players who cannot pass accurately, players who cannot maintain possession. So what do we do? We bring in players who can keep possession and pass accurately. We brought in a CB to help us get out the back in Maguire, and a MF comfortable playing as a pivot in Iborra, though we've missed him due to injury. We can play Iborra and Silva in games like the one against Man U, where we struggled like hell to get the ball out of our third of the field. I'd say we have to, to have a real shot at winning. If Dragovic comes in, we now have an excellent passing/dribbling pairing, as Dragovic excels at the longer passes that we really don't do now other than to clear 50-50 balls up the field. He has aim and hits his targets, he has stopped world class strikers, he ranges well up the field for pass interceptions so as to kill counter attacks, and has great speed to recover if caught out. He's a brilliantly vicious player who fills all sorts of needs for us. 

 

I see improvements on the ball all over the field. Iheanacho is an upgrade on Shinji. Iborra and Silva are upgrades on our CMs, Maguir and Dragovic are an upgrade on our CBs. Not saying we are Arsenal, but now we have some horses to stop the pressing that kills us. The longer we keep possession, the fewer chances teams like Man U get, the more chances we potentially get. We can still be a counter-attacking team while keeping possession after successful defensive stops. 

 

Shaky and management are doing a great job, seriously. Their vision is clear. Their upgrades are needed and smart. They aren't spending like drunken sailors. It is pretty awesome to see this team on the way up.

 

 

Spot on, I think it's been very obvious that we are trying to improve our on the ball ability all over the pitch, which is credit to CS as many had him down as a hit and hope, big man, kick and rush manager.

[MC Prussian]

If Dragovic and Silva aren't strong enough for you, then you might want to consult your nearest practitioner.

[Kasey Keller]

Molla gone watford.

rudkin out

[foxgas]

I think some leech agents will have an awful lot of ego massaging to do tomorrow.

[CosbehFox]

As I said a couple of days we work increasingly by stealth. Don't believe the papers as some kind of factual reporting of who we are in for. 

 

The club were always working on something. You'll say it's all last minute but in Drinky's case that got the best transfer fee. Dragovic was probably because other deals didn't fall into place.

[ROB-THE-BLUE]

@LinekersApples what happened with Townsend?

[Lovejoy]

5 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

As I said a couple of days we work increasingly by stealth. Don't believe the papers as some kind of factual reporting of who we are in for. 

 

The club were always working on something. You'll say it's all last minute but in Drinky's case that got the best transfer fee. Dragovic was probably because other deals didn't fall into place.

Yeah, but there weren't enough tenuous links to obscure/unrealistic players. Forget who we actually sign, it's all about what's written on social media .

[surrifox]

Isn't there an old music hall song "silva threads among the gold" ?

i digress , why is the Silva thread closed - only FT would put the block on discussing one of our more significant and costly signings 

[Trav Le Bleu]

On 30/08/2017 at 12:29, Stevosevic said:

All the talk is of players potentially leaving but nothing strong on any incomings.

 

I guess that's it for us? 

And yet...