Cincinnati Fox Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 Who wrote the statement??? take some responsibility Rudkin!
coley1884 Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 Really disappointed that we are not appealing. If we are sure we are in the right then it shouldn't matter whether Fifa is willing to expedite the process or not. Silva won't be able to play before January anyway but there's a principle to settle. There's also the point about compensation some where down the road too. I hope Silva is successful if he makes a personal appeal - maybe the advice is that this is likely to be a preferable route.
Jattdogg Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 We all knew this on the night it all happened. They were just looking for the right time to bury the news and guess that was now.
waylander Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 7 minutes ago, EastAnglianFox said: Let's hope he wins and we can sue the bxxxxxxds retospectively . ?
Guest Basildon Fox Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 1 minute ago, Monsell1976 said: So basically we have given up due to time, well what do you expect when you spend about a month thinking about going to court, over a month to put in the original appeal. What a ****ing shambles, if I was in silva shoes I’d be thinking of getting out as soon as I could, with these amateurs running the club, and with no manager, I’d be thinking, what the **** have I done coming here. So what were the club supposed to do. it seems to me if we have forensic proof then the rights and wrongs of waiting for the last minute do not matter. FIFA should be taken to task for it. You have to ask what is their motivation for blocking if we have proof. Absolute power hungry morons. It is potentially damaging to Silva too, especially if it takes him a while to settle to the pace of the Prem and he misses out on the World Cup.
cc_star Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 1 minute ago, Zaphod Beeblebrox said: So what were the club supposed to do. it seems to me if we have forensic proof then the rights and wrongs of waiting for the last minute do not matter. FIFA should be taken to task for it. You have to ask what is their motivation for blocking if we have proof. Absolute power hungry morons. It is potentially damaging to Silva too, especially if it takes him a while to settle to the pace of the Prem and he misses out on the World Cup. It doesn't take a month to double check timestamps FA were on-side from the beginning Not only was the act itself woefully inept, but the time taken to go to FIFA was..., it could have gone through FIFA in days & then to CAS Rudkin is still here though, hiring & firing managers & in position to do this to our season with a great chance to make real progress all screwed!
Jattdogg Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 4 minutes ago, cc_star said: It doesn't take a month to double check timestamps FA were on-side from the beginning Not only was the act itself woefully inept, but the time taken to go to FIFA was..., it could have gone through FIFA in days & then to CAS Rudkin is still here though, hiring & firing managers & in position to do this to our season with a great chance to make real progress all screwed! We are talking about courts and fifa and office workers. 1 month is being generous. Probably need 5 or 6.
dpjfox Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 I hope this is a tactic agreed with club and Slva, and not that the player is pissed off with the club. If this is the best/quickest option then has to be done. At least the club wont undergo the indignaty of rejection again!
David Hankey Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 FIFA is still corrupt from top to tail as is the FA but at the end of the day we shouldn't left it until AFTER the deadline. Chelsea didn't with Drinkwater!!
Foxes1 Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 16 minutes ago, Everygamefox said: Who wrote the statement??? take some responsibility Rudkin! He will never take responsibility the bloke is an absolute a******e
gerrytaggart Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 this news makes me embarrassed to be Rudkin.
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 4 minutes ago, gerrytaggart said: this news makes me embarrassed to be Rudkin. Jon, you're a ****.
Livid Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 This is an organisation who gave a summer World Cup to a tiny country in the Middle East. They are corrupt but powerful and obviously make the rules up as they go along but I guess at the end of the day you don’t want to be on the wrong side of them.
Mike Oxlong Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 So we can't fast track the matter through CAS because all participants have to consent to the process and FIFA are not willing to agree. We should still take the case to CAS on the normal legal track and if we get a ruling that FIFA were wrong we should sue them at the very least for wages paid to Silva for the four months that He couldn't play.
Grey Fox Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 58 minutes ago, Simi said: Statement from the club. So FIFA have to agree to an appeal against them. Priceless!
mozartfox Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 45 minutes ago, coley1884 said: Really disappointed that we are not appealing. If we are sure we are in the right then it shouldn't matter whether Fifa is willing to expedite the process or not. Silva won't be able to play before January anyway but there's a principle to settle. There's also the point about compensation some where down the road too. I hope Silva is successful if he makes a personal appeal - maybe the advice is that this is likely to be a preferable route. Spot on my friend. To accept a 'guilty' verdict when you have 'forensic' evidence you are innocent, stinks like a rotting kipper in a heat wave. We have screwed up. SLB
Long Eaton Fox Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 2 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said: So we can't fast track the matter through CAS because all participants have to consent to the process and FIFA are not willing to agree. We should still take the case to CAS on the normal legal track and if we get a ruling that FIFA were wrong we should sue them at the very least for wages paid to Silva for the four months that He couldn't play. I agree. If we genuinely believe we are in the right, then this is now a matter of principal and we should pursue fifa through the courts all the way.
Realist Guy In The Room Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 The most likely outcome of a victory is for Silva to launch a personal appeal rather than the club. The club have evidenced that they fulfilled the requirements but were still unsuccessful with their appeal. By Silva pursuing the case personally, it makes it much more difficult and political with regards the Portugese national team for the appeal to be denied.
davieG Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 58 minutes ago, Monsell1976 said: So basically we have given up due to time, well what do you expect when you spend about a month thinking about going to court, over a month to put in the original appeal. What a ****ing shambles, if I was in silva shoes I’d be thinking of getting out as soon as I could, with these amateurs running the club, and with no manager, I’d be thinking, what the **** have I done coming here. Didn't matter how fast we did things it was never going to get past FIFA
st albans fox Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 Clearly we are advised that even if we were to win an appeal we would have no recourse to recover costs (ie wages ). Hence we are not interested in a retrospective hearing. it was naive of the club to publish that they reserved the right to take the case to CAS as it was obvious that FIFA wouldn’t play ball by agreeing to accelerate any hearing. There was no incentive for them to do so whatsoever. Now we appear even more impotent wrt FIFA than was already the case. Plenty on here put forward the idea that silva should take a personal case somewhere and now that’s the only course of action left. Should have been applied for weeks ago in tandem with the appeal to FIFA - would have ruffled their feathers and its obvious we have received poor advice all through the process.
foxinsocks Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 49 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said: So we can't fast track the matter through CAS because all participants have to consent to the process and FIFA are not willing to agree. We should still take the case to CAS on the normal legal track and if we get a ruling that FIFA were wrong we should sue them at the very least for wages paid to Silva for the four months that He couldn't play. I think the club should sue.. for the wages, the legal costs etc....but I expect there may be terms that say we dont sue each other for consequential loss. A better appraoch is for silva to injunct them saying their process means he is punished (unable to play) and it was not his fault and it may be the fas or fifas fault yet their process is to long. Even if it is lcfcs fault the whole impact is not proportionate. He should be allowed to play pending the cas appeal... (and fifa is refusing to expedite it)
st albans fox Posted 24 October 2017 Posted 24 October 2017 As far as the time it took us to launch the appeal was concerned - who knows when we did that. FIFA have thirty days to give a response and its possible they took them all. After all, the Nigerian chap was given the green light same day.
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