FIFA reject Adrien Silva appeal

[somebum]

7 hours ago, hairmetalgamer said:

 

Looks a broken man probably thinking by Christ this lot are shit

[brucey]

His stance looks a lot like Shinji's. Same height and build, and he loves that hands on hips pose too.

[foxile5]

'at least the weather is mild...' 

[urban.spaceman]

From the Mercury:

 

Leicester City will take Adrien Silva case to CAS if it is fast-tracked

Midfielder is now in training but City fight for him to play

07:57, 13 OCT 2017

Updated10:51, 13 OCT 2017

Midfielder is now in training but City fight for him to play

Leicester City will take their case over Adrien Silva’s withheld registration to the Court for Arbitration in Sport as long as it can be fast-tracked.

The Portugal international cannot play for City until January 1 after a FIFA judge upheld the governing bodies’ decision to block Silva’s £22 million move from Sporting Lisbon to City on transfer deadline day because the documentation was received by the FA 14 seconds after the deadline.

City believed they had shown with forensic proof that the documentation had been sent before the deadline and that it had been a problem with FIFA’s Transfer Matching System that caused the delay, but FIFA have rejected that evidence.

City have not given up and still feel they can get Silva registered earlier by going through CAS, but they will need the case fast-tracked so it can be resolved quickly or it could drag on past the January 1 deadline, when Silva will be available regardless of a CAS hearing.

“I think it's under review,” said manager Craig Shakespeare. “I will leave it in the hands of the club because it's still a can of worms for someone like me who is just football based, not knowing all the ins and outs.

“I think I will wait for the club to come back to me and I’m sure the club are reviewing what the options are and until they have reviewed them I will make sure myself and Adrien concentrate on the coaching on the training pitch.”

[Stadt]

It's not Sporting Lisbon ffs how many times 

[justfoxes]

Really hoping we can get all this shit sorted out soon and get Silva playing football which can only benefit us, for something that was not down to him and a pathetic organisation inFIFA putting him in football limbo for an allegedly late paperwork which has since all been proven that fifa are in the wrong but they’re too disgruntled and pedantic too allow us to register so now be it’s up to the CAS to assist us in getting this player from Limbo and back on the pitch as soon as fuching possible sooner rather than later !!

 

 

[foxile5]

The most  infuriating thing about this is the disparity between sanctioning racism and timekeeping. 

[Mr Mister]

Get rid of the Director of Football and let the manager have total control over which players come in and out. The manager names the team for every match and sets the tactics. Therefore the manager should have control over recruitment rather than some desk monkey.

[CyprusFox]

6 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

From the Mercury:

 

Leicester City will take Adrien Silva case to CAS if it is fast-tracked

Midfielder is now in training but City fight for him to play

07:57, 13 OCT 2017

Updated10:51, 13 OCT 2017

Midfielder is now in training but City fight for him to play

Leicester City will take their case over Adrien Silva’s withheld registration to the Court for Arbitration in Sport as long as it can be fast-tracked.

The Portugal international cannot play for City until January 1 after a FIFA judge upheld the governing bodies’ decision to block Silva’s £22 million move from Sporting Lisbon to City on transfer deadline day because the documentation was received by the FA 14 seconds after the deadline.

City believed they had shown with forensic proof that the documentation had been sent before the deadline and that it had been a problem with FIFA’s Transfer Matching System that caused the delay, but FIFA have rejected that evidence.

City have not given up and still feel they can get Silva registered earlier by going through CAS, but they will need the case fast-tracked so it can be resolved quickly or it could drag on past the January 1 deadline, when Silva will be available regardless of a CAS hearing.

“I think it's under review,” said manager Craig Shakespeare. “I will leave it in the hands of the club because it's still a can of worms for someone like me who is just football based, not knowing all the ins and outs.

“I think I will wait for the club to come back to me and I’m sure the club are reviewing what the options are and until they have reviewed them I will make sure myself and Adrien concentrate on the coaching on the training pitch.”

Surely if we take this to the CAS and the case is upheld, we should be due compensation from FIFA as this guy would have made a massive difference to our struggling and inept midfield imo. As for Shakespeare's comments, I'm amazed that he's so out of the loop that he  "thinks its under review" and he's "waiting for the club to come back to him". We are in the f***ing shit, get some boll***s Shakespeare, demand some answers and pass it on to the supporters who are fast losing patience with this whole fiasco. I really think this issue has just emphasised the fact that Shakespeare is completely out of his depth, as are many of the backroom staff. Rudkin immediately springs to mind. How the f**k did this failed academy coach ever reach the dizzy heights of DIRECTOR OF FOOTBALL

[st albans fox]

10 minutes ago, CyprusFox said:

Surely if we take this to the CAS and the case is upheld, we should be due compensation from FIFA as this guy would have made a massive difference to our struggling and inept midfield imo. As for Shakespeare's comments, I'm amazed that he's so out of the loop that he  "thinks its under review" and he's "waiting for the club to come back to him". We are in the f***ing shit, get some boll***s Shakespeare, demand some answers and pass it on to the supporters who are fast losing patience with this whole fiasco. I really think this issue has just emphasised the fact that Shakespeare is completely out of his depth, as are many of the backroom staff.

Shakey has no international profile. Him having a public rant demanding x and y will have no positive effect. If he was a mourinho or wenger then he could have made a difference weeks ago. All he could do now would be to say something out of turn which could prejudice any case we wish to bring at CAS. 

 

As for compensation, all we could hope to get would be a repayment of wages we paid over the period he wasn't allowed to play for us. 

[yorkie1999]

5 minutes ago, CyprusFox said:

Surely if we take this to the CAS and the case is upheld, we should be due compensation from FIFA as this guy would have made a massive difference to our struggling and inept midfield imo. As for Shakespeare's comments, I'm amazed that he's so out of the loop that he  "thinks its under review" and he's "waiting for the club to come back to him". We are in the f***ing shit, get some boll***s Shakespeare, demand some answers and pass it on to the supporters who are fast losing patience with this whole fiasco. I really think this issue has just emphasised the fact that Shakespeare is completely out of his depth, as are many of the backroom staff.

Cause he’s in the loop and knows exactly what’s going on, but the way to stop the constant questions about “any updates on the silva situation” at every interview from people like stringer in a vain attempt to gather information, he’s going to say he doesn’t know what’s happening. Surely you should realise that anything that shakey says in the press about the situation would be regarded by FIFA as undermining their authority and therefore go against any type of legal action we take. He has to be seen and heard to be respectful to the powers that be, bit like calling the ref a cvnt on a Sunday morning, you know your gonna get sent off. 

[CyprusFox]

4 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

Cause he’s in the loop and knows exactly what’s going on, but the way to stop the constant questions about “any updates on the silva situation” at every interview from people like stringer in a vain attempt to gather information, he’s going to say he doesn’t know what’s happening. Surely you should realise that anything that shakey says in the press about the situation would be regarded by FIFA as undermining their authority and therefore go against any type of legal action we take. He has to be seen and heard to be respectful to the powers that be, bit like calling the ref a cvnt on a Sunday morning, you know your gonna get sent off. 

Don't agree. Makes him look a tw*t. Should just have said that "it's being dealt with by the club"' instead of " I ain't got a f***ing clue whats going on I'm only the manager"! As I have said before, he's completely out of his depth at this level, as a manager and front man. Get rid while we still have time to salvage our season.

[Guest]

Do you reckon silva supports further dialogue and sanctions as a way of dealing with escalating tensions in North Korea?

 

 

Also: jaffa cakes or digestives?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm just asking coz I want to see this thread reach 100 pages before his first match.

[Tuna]

7 minutes ago, winchesterton said:

Do you reckon silva supports further dialogue and sanctions as a way of dealing with escalating tensions in North Korea?

 

 

Also: jaffa cakes or digestives?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm just asking coz I want to see this thread reach 100 pages before his first match.

Jaffa.

[Ric Flair]

Apparently the hold up to this appeal is Rudkin thought CAS was a Spanish fizzy drink and he's been on hold to their customer services for nearly two weeks. 

[CyprusFox]

8 hours ago, winchesterton said:

Do you reckon silva supports further dialogue and sanctions as a way of dealing with escalating tensions in North Korea?

 

 

Also: jaffa cakes or digestives?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm just asking coz I want to see this thread reach 100 pages before his first match.

Digestives

[Wymsey]

He might as well study towards earning a coaching qualification etc whilst he's waiting.

[foxinsocks]

As i understand things we got the fa to ask fifa to change their ruling which was based on the fa's earlier stance.  I detect that the fa are wary of a massive claim from the club and the player.... (esp given the it evidence) ...but they have made their bed and must lie in it... and they cant force fifa to change it.

I believe silva should seek an injunction to stop fifa from holding up his reg pending the apeal... this will get him playing.  Whatever the outcome of the appeal the action against the player is not proportionate.

[joachim1965]

Whichever way you look at it, the player has basically been banned from playing and he has done nothing wrong. It is absolutely crazy.

[thebluefox]

18 hours ago, winchesterton said:

Do you reckon silva supports further dialogue and sanctions as a way of dealing with escalating tensions in North Korea?

 

 

Also: jaffa cakes or digestives?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm just asking coz I want to see this thread reach 100 pages before his first match.

If it’s with a cup of tea digestive, if no drink then Jaffa cakes

[davieG]

 

 

 

By Nick Wright and Rob Dorsett

Last Updated: 15/10/17 1:19pm

 

 

Leicester will once again be without Adrien Silva when they face West Brom on Monday Night Football.

The Portuguese midfielder has been unable to register for the club after a dispute with FIFA surrounding his £22m move from Sporting Lisbon on Deadline Day.

So what exactly went wrong? And what happens next? We take a look with help fromSky Sports News reporter Rob Dorsett.

What happened?

On Deadline Day, as Chelsea stepped up their efforts to sign Danny Drinkwater, Leicester attempted to bring in Silva from Sporting Lisbon as a replacement. Chelsea confirmed the arrival of Drinkwater shortly after the deadline, but Leicester's brief statement on Silva said the transfer was still "subject to international clearance approval".

Leicester had agreed a £22m deal with Sporting and the player had completed a medical at their training ground, but FIFA claimed the Foxes had missed the Transfer Matching System registration deadline by 14 seconds. The decision left Silva in limbo, unable to even train at Leicester, with Sporting demanding payment for a deal they considered to be done.

How did Leicester react?

Leicester have already gone to great lengths to dispute FIFA's decision, formulating an appeal as soon as the transfer was rejected. "Leicester are adamant they sent all the necessary paperwork via FIFA's secure intranet system before the midnight deadline," explains Dorsett.

"They secured an hour extension to the original 11pm deadline because they were still waiting for some essential documents to be sent over from Sporting Lisbon, and I've been told the club have employed forensic IT experts to extract proof from the club's IT systems to show that all the documents were uploaded by them before midnight."

FIFA rejected their appeal on October 4, however. "FIFA say the documents were downloaded onto their computers 14 seconds after the midnight deadline," says Dorsett. "As such, they cannot bend their rules to allow Silva's registration to proceed.

"The way it was explained to me was by comparing the system to when we send an email; the recipient does not receive that email the moment it was sent, there is an IT delay between sender and recipient. So it was with the Silva paperwork. Leicester believe there is ambiguity in the FIFA law regarding the deadline. They say they met the necessary criteria for registration to be accepted."

But FIFA have been unmoved.

Is there any chance Leicester could reverse the decision?

Leicester's only remaining options are to take their protests to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, attempt to cancel the transfer - something Sporting say they would fight legally - or wait until the transfer window re-opens on January 1 to formally complete the deal.

"Leicester are still considering whether to appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport," says Dorsett. "I understand they are confident that they would win an appeal, on the advice of lawyers, but the issue for the club and for the player is how long it may take for CAS to hear their case.

"The current feeling at the club is that an appeal wouldn't be heard before the New Year, when the transfer window will be open and they would be able to register Silva anyway. So it may be a fruitless process. If they are advised that the case can be fast-tracked, and that Silva may be freed up to play sooner than January, then they will appeal.

"However, Leicester officials feel wronged by this whole situation, and they don't like the fact that they are being criticised by some fans for a problem which they are adamant is not of their making.

 

"Also, were they to win a case at CAS, they would be entitled to pursue a case for compensation against FIFA, which could be significant since Leicester are now paying wages to a player they cannot use in any competitive matches for a three-month period.

"These are all issues that Leicester's bosses are considering before making a decision."

How has Silva taken it?

"By all accounts, he is devastated," says Dorsett. "Silva was very keen on a move to the Premier League, and to Leicester in particular, where he expected to get a lot of game time.

"He is now in a situation where he can't play for Leicester until January 1, but he isn't allowed to return to Sporting Lisbon either, because they have been adamant that the transfer is binding, and that he is now a Leicester player."

 

Is he able to train?

"When he was in limbo, awaiting the FIFA decision on his registration, he wasn't allowed to train with Leicester," says Dorsett. "To maintain what fitness levels he had, Silva was working with his brother and a personal instructor, mainly in Leicester, so that he would be ready to go if a favourable decision came back from football's governing body.

"Many people have asked me why Diego Costa was allowed to train with his new team, even though he is in a similar position to Silva, having moved to Atletico Madrid despite not being registered until January. The difference is there was a potential dispute between Sporting and Leicester about who owns the player, whereas Chelsea and Atletico both agreed on Costa's move.

"Most English transfers are made 'subject to international clearance' and the necessary registrations, so it was in Leicester's power to claim the Silva deal was dead, pay no money to Sporting, and send him back.

 

"However, Craig Shakespeare wants the player, admires him greatly, and needs a midfielder of his quality to replace Drinkwater. Leicester would've attempted to sign him again in January anyway. So having decided to accept he is their player, Leicester are now allowed to include him in first-team training, which they have been doing for two weeks.

"Silva has moved to England permanently and is starting to acclimatise. The only good news on this, from a Leicester perspective, is that by the time they can play Silva in January, he will have had plenty of time to get settled in to the club, know and train with his team-mates and manager Craig Shakespeare, and be fit and ready for action."

[sishades]

Jaffa cakes are revolting....milk chocolate hob nobs all the way.Its a bicsuit but also a sweet. Yummy.

[foxinsocks]

If I was a player and Leicester came in for me then I would want them t indemnify me against any repeat of this situation - even if it is not Leicester's fault, the fact that they were willing to risk the player's status by flirting with the deadline shows a lack of consideration to the player.  This farce will leave some mud sticking to lcfc however the rulings go

[Ric Flair]

2 minutes ago, foxinsocks said:

If I was a player and Leicester came in for me then I would want them t indemnify me against any repeat of this situation - even if it is not Leicester's fault, the fact that they were willing to risk the player's status by flirting with the deadline shows a lack of consideration to the player.  This farce will leave some mud sticking to lcfc however the rulings go

It happens every window transfers falling through close to the deadline, it's just in this instance everyone thought it had gone through so he's in limbo. We are at fault, yes and hopefully we learn from this as every summer we spend ages in August not really pursuing anyone until the final few days and we're notoriously weak at getting deals done quickly so we have to change our processes.

[shade]

40 minutes ago, sishades said:

Jaffa cakes are revolting....milk chocolate hob nobs all the way.Its a bicsuit but also a sweet. Yummy.

how is it a sweet? chocolate isn't a sweet, never has been, never will be.