Realist Guy In The Room Posted 22 October 2017 Posted 22 October 2017 Everyone still bumming Everton’s summer recruitment?
foxy boxing Posted 22 October 2017 Posted 22 October 2017 Just shows that leaving may not result in better things. He was lauded when he was here for discovering Talent like Mahrez but is now getting castigated for poor purchases costing millions (sound familiar). Maybe it shows that he just got extremely lucky when he was our scout finding the talent that he did or maybe he is a better scout than director of football!
davieG Posted 22 October 2017 Posted 22 October 2017 2 minutes ago, foxy boxing said: Just shows that leaving may not result in better things. He was lauded when he was here for discovering Talent like Mahrez but is now getting castigated for poor purchases costing millions (sound familiar). Maybe it shows that he just got extremely lucky when he was our scout finding the talent that he did or maybe he is a better scout than director of football! Maybe he's just better at finding unknowns like some managers are better at smaller clubs. Plus failures with unknowns go un-noticed
Kitchandro Posted 22 October 2017 Posted 22 October 2017 Does anyone get credit for us being successful, apart from Pearson and Kante? Not even his backroom staff get cut any slack. According to this forum, Ranieri didn't do anything, Shakespeare didn't do anything, the players have no quality and Rudkin and Walsh are useless cretins who have done their best to destroy us. Now some of those things may be true but they can't all be true.
CosbehFox Posted 22 October 2017 Posted 22 October 2017 Has anyone considered may be he's missing the analysis team he had here?
Guest MattP Posted 22 October 2017 Posted 22 October 2017 Maybe he's too comfortable now and lost the desire? If you've got 150 million to spend you won't be arsed with watching Ligue 2 matches.
Stadt Posted 22 October 2017 Posted 22 October 2017 5 minutes ago, MattP said: Maybe he's too comfortable now and lost the desire? If you've got 150 million to spend you won't be arsed with watching Ligue 2 matches. There's an expectation to spend big too. Laughably, Wenger once said Arsenal can't sign players for £400k because the fans won't be happy. Walsh is clearly an excellent scout but there's more to recruitment than one man, besides the players Everton have signed aren't bad players it's more that they're too similar and don't come close to replacing what they lost.
bovril Posted 22 October 2017 Posted 22 October 2017 25 minutes ago, Kitchandro said: Does anyone get credit for us being successful, apart from Pearson and Kante? Not even his backroom staff get cut any slack. According to this forum, Ranieri didn't do anything, Shakespeare didn't do anything, the players have no quality and Rudkin and Walsh are useless cretins who have done their best to destroy us. Now some of those things may be true but they can't all be true. It's the Buddhists wot did it.
Fox92 Posted 22 October 2017 Posted 22 October 2017 He is in a role at Everton which I believe he's never been in before. He was only scout/head scout here, at Chelsea, Newcaslte, Hull.... I'd take him back here without a doubt. Trouble is with Everton they've got a lot of money at once, maybe his proper talent is finding gems not spending millions (beause they've bought some real average players).
Poznan34 Posted 22 October 2017 Posted 22 October 2017 Should we try and get him back if he gets sacked by Everton? Or should we have a clean break from previous regimes? That's if he would want to return.
sdb Posted 22 October 2017 Posted 22 October 2017 They bought good players 2/3 years still off their prime. And lost their best and most important player. Knew they'd flatter to deceive although I thought a mediocre mid table finish rather than any disaster. But it is early and they'll be fine. Sign a class forward, get Coleman fit and they'll be very decent I think.
SystonFox Posted 22 October 2017 Posted 22 October 2017 The amount they got raped for Sigurdsson says it all tbh
Strokes Posted 22 October 2017 Posted 22 October 2017 3 hours ago, Wookie said: There's an expectation to spend big too. Laughably, Wenger once said Arsenal can't sign players for £400k because the fans won't be happy. Walsh is clearly an excellent scout but there's more to recruitment than one man, besides the players Everton have signed aren't bad players it's more that they're too similar and don't come close to replacing what they lost. That’s illogical Surely if it was true, you could always just pay more to appease the fans.
Stadt Posted 22 October 2017 Posted 22 October 2017 2 minutes ago, Strokes said: That’s illogical Surely if it was true, you could always just pay more to appease the fans. That's why I don't like him, never holds himself accountable and he's full of shit most of the time.
StanSP Posted 22 October 2017 Posted 22 October 2017 I wonder how many times he's spotted the next Kante or Mahrez since he's gone to Everton and been told it's not gonna happen because it's not high profile enough.
Guest Col city fan Posted 23 October 2017 Posted 23 October 2017 9 hours ago, StanSP said: I wonder how many times he's spotted the next Kante or Mahrez since he's gone to Everton and been told it's not gonna happen because it's not high profile enough. I strongly suspect that this is about bang on. At City, I think Walsh probably had free reign. We weren't Prem when he unearthed Mahrez, Knockeart, Vardy and the like. His remit was to find talent, on the cheap and get it into the club. At Everton, I pretty much assume his hands are tied. The owners want instant success, their fans consider themselves a 'big club' and they all expect a certain standard of player. The two situations are just not comparable. Walsh does his best work when part of a solid managerial team, when his hands aren't tied by some pre set agenda AND when he feels he calls the shots on transfers. Or so, I strongly suspect.
Brizzle Fox Posted 23 October 2017 Posted 23 October 2017 Makes you appreciate what a great DoF we have. After all we won the title under ours....
m4DD0gg Posted 23 October 2017 Posted 23 October 2017 I get the sense he went up there to semi retire and be closer to his family. Also having to work with Ronald Koeman is enough to mess anyone up.
Rogstanley Posted 23 October 2017 Posted 23 October 2017 Has he ever made a good signing for more than say £10m? Every one has their limitations and clearly one of Walsh's is that he's not very good operating in the higher price brackets. We saw that here with poor business like Slimani, Musa etc and we have seen it at Everton now as well.
AKCJ Posted 23 October 2017 Posted 23 October 2017 Annoys me how fickle people are on here. Regardless of whether or not they've shown it in 9 games, Everton's summer recruitment was, largely, seriously impressive. Davy Klaassen - Captain of the side that reached the Europa League final- Still very young, accomplished a lot in the game already. Wayne Rooney - Every mid table club in the league would have had him in a heartbeat. Considering he was free, too. Jordan Pickford - Will undoubtedly become England's number 1. Immense talent. Gylfi Sigurdsson - Probably over spent but they still got a proven Premier League talent in that will chip in with goals and assists. Michael Keane - One of England's first choice centre halves right now. Still young and they got him for a good price. Sandro Ramirez - Outscored Neymar in La Liga last season - Only 22. Their only cock up (undoubtedly a big one) is that they couldn't get a striker in.
CosbehFox Posted 23 October 2017 Posted 23 October 2017 It's been under appreciated too in what younger players Everton have signed in the past two seasons.
ozleicester Posted 23 October 2017 Posted 23 October 2017 6 hours ago, Brizzle Fox said: Makes you appreciate what a great DoF we have. After all we won the title under ours.... Terry Robinson done it... Rudkin just climbed on a winning horse
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