All our 2016 summer signings have left the club

[Fox92]

Our recruitment that summer was pathetic. 

 

I believe Walsh identified certain players (ie Slimani) but I honestly don't think he'd have gone ahead and paid £30mill for him or the £17mill for Musa or whatever stupid price it was. Losing Kante was massive but our recruitment was also massive too.

[Footballwipe]

Broke our transfer record three times too, remember... Look at our history of record signings ffs

 

Eadie

Akinbiyi

Mills

Karamaric (will ignore Ulloa, he was okay)

Musa

Mendy

Slimani

 

There's definitely some kind of hex on us with record signings either getting injured, being utterly appalling or just not fitting in.

 

[m4DD0gg]

- Luis Hernandez - sold - Shite
- Ron-Robert Zieler - sold - Shite and mute by looks of it
- Bartosz Kapustka - loaned out - Did he even play?!
- Papy Mendy - loaned out - Shite
- Ahmed Musa - loaned out - REALLY Shite
- Islam Slimani - loaned - Shite

 

Pathetic really that we won the biggest, most famous league in the world and we wasted the winnings on some of the worst football players i have ever seen.

Edited 1 February 2018 by m4DD0gg

[lgfualol]

Kapustka did look really good at the Euros. I think we ****ed up by not loaning him back to his old club where he was playing well and every week. Instead he came here and didn't do anything which seems to have destroyed him as a footballer.

 

What a poor window it was though. Puel will sort us out at least.

[Dan]

That truly is the worst transfer window you will ever see. Premier League champions, Champions League top seeds, the most powerful position we're ever likely to be in and not one of them saw February 2018. Utterly unbelievable.

[SheppyFox]

Baffled as to why our owners didn’t remove someone for that transfer window, unless they did but it was a no namer working behind the scenes. 

 

Extremely excited about Diabate, early days for him but he looks class and if he’s a sign of things to come from players bought under Puel then we may see silverware again in the near future ??

Edited 1 February 2018 by SheppyFox

[RutlanderFox]

They all have turned out to be bad signings for us but one could try and make a case in defence of most of them:

- Hernandez was a centre back and has been since we left yet we only gave him opportunities at right back where he wasn’t good despite his bullet long throw but didn’t show us the best of him because he was played out of position

 

- Zieler was very disappointing I thought. Good shot stopper but never communicated nor did he show anything to convince us he’d be our number 1 

 

- Kapustka was a strange signing and the fact that Ranieri said he wasn’t ready for the PL despite us thinking he would be clearly shows the scouting wasn’t good enough (on a slightly irrelevant side note this is the opposite to Diabate whereby we thought he wouldn’t be ready for this level yet Puel has come out and said he is)

 

- Mendy can’t be criticised for me. He was injured on his home debut (where he was playing fairly well) and never recovered. I also thought he was one of our better looking players when he came in for a 4/5 game spell in January although that’s not saying much! I still think he potentially has a role to play for us with Puel in charge

 

-Slimani hasn’t repaid his price tag but maybe that was a weight on his shoulders? But I still think he’s contributed a good amount of goals and assists for the minutes he’s played and considering he’s been played out of position 

 

- Musa I believe still has something to offer contrary to what 99% of people think given he’s still only 25. He’s shown rare glimpses in the past but seems like a player affected by confidence. He had a good pre season so I thought he’d be given more opportunities this year

 

So mostly it’s a case of not enough game time for them which comes down to the managers who must’ve realised they don’t suit our system. That is why the recruitment team takes the blame and I agree we could’ve got so much more given our position at the time (sorry for the long post, I don’t blame you if you didn’t read it!)

 

[StriderHiryu]

1 hour ago, SheppyFox said:

Baffled as to why our owners didn’t remove someone for that transfer window, unless they did but it was a no namer working behind the scenes. 

 

Extremely excited about Diabate, early days for him but he looks class and if he’s a sign of things to come from players bought under Puel then we may see silverware again in the near future ??

To be fair, I think this is why Macia was brought in, and signings since then have been far better.

 

I do wonder how much Ranieri was involved. Mendy was definitely his choice, but the only other player I know he really tried to get was Ousmane Dembele, who would have been a cracker!

Edited 1 February 2018 by StriderHiryu

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

6 hours ago, Tuna said:

Still got Raul Uche.

Thought he's gone on loan to Real Betis?

 

Edit: just saw earlier post to confirm

Edited 1 February 2018 by Cadno'r Cymoedd

[StriderHiryu]

4 hours ago, Footballwipe said:

Broke our transfer record three times too, remember... Look at our history of record signings ffs

 

Eadie

Akinbiyi

Mills

Karamaric (will ignore Ulloa, he was okay)

Musa

Mendy

Slimani

 

There's definitely some kind of hex on us with record signings either getting injured, being utterly appalling or just not fitting in.

 

What a waste of money! 

[steflcfc]

16 minutes ago, RutlanderFox said:

They all have turned out to be bad signings for us but one could try and make a case in defence of most of them:

- Hernandez was a centre back and has been since we left yet we only gave him opportunities at right back where he wasn’t good despite his bullet long throw but didn’t show us the best of him because he was played out of position

 

- Zieler was very disappointing I thought. Good shot stopper but never communicated nor did he show anything to convince us he’d be our number 1 

 

- Kapustka was a strange signing and the fact that Ranieri said he wasn’t ready for the PL despite us thinking he would be clearly shows the scouting wasn’t good enough (on a slightly irrelevant side note this is the opposite to Diabate whereby we thought he wouldn’t be ready for this level yet Puel has come out and said he is)

 

- Mendy can’t be criticised for me. He was injured on his home debut (where he was playing fairly well) and never recovered. I also thought he was one of our better looking players when he came in for a 4/5 game spell in January although that’s not saying much! I still think he potentially has a role to play for us with Puel in charge

 

-Slimani hasn’t repaid his price tag but maybe that was a weight on his shoulders? But I still think he’s contributed a good amount of goals and assists for the minutes he’s played and considering he’s been played out of position 

 

- Musa I believe still has something to offer contrary to what 99% of people think given he’s still only 25. He’s shown rare glimpses in the past but seems like a player affected by confidence. He had a good pre season so I thought he’d be given more opportunities this year

 

So mostly it’s a case of not enough game time for them which comes down to the managers who must’ve realised they don’t suit our system. That is why the recruitment team takes the blame and I agree we could’ve got so much more given our position at the time (sorry for the long post, I don’t blame you if you didn’t read it!)

 

If I remember right....I think there was an Interview with Morgan at the start of the season, and he said Musa was banging the goals in for fun in training.

 

Is he purely a confidence player who needed a run of games upfront? We will never know!

 

He never really got going in a City shirt.

[Rogstanley]

6 hours ago, sm1 said:

Kapustka was definitely a Ranieri choice. He saw him at the Euros, was impressed and iniated the deal. I think the same is true for Mendy. Walsh wanted Idris Gueye based on his stats when Kante left, but Ranieri preferred Mendy because he knew him from his time in France.

So basically the two signings that still have a chance of being decent (Mendy and Kaputska) were Ranieri and all the expensive dross was Walsh, but somehow Ranieri gets the blame.

 

It’s frankly weird how some people can’t bring themselves to criticise Walsh. He cocked up big time that summer. Doesn’t take anything away from his past achievements of course, but he’s not beyond criticism or blame for how we failed to capitalise on our position in summer 2016.

[Ric Flair]

5 hours ago, Costock_Fox said:

Rumours about Kapustka was it was purely Rudkin, I struggle to see how that was Ranieri considering we didn’t see him kick a ball for 6 months.

 

Mendy- We scouted him when Pearson was here and were linked for a few windows. 

Rudkin doesn't pick players, that's down to Macia and the colleagues he has under him. Rudkin's role is to get the deals over the line, a role he's dog shit at. Can't blame him for crap players though. 

[VLC86]

4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Rudkin doesn't pick players, that's down to Macia and the colleagues he has under him. Rudkin's role is to get the deals over the line, a role he's dog shit at. Can't blame him for crap players though. 

Was Marcia in situ then though? I can’t remember but it seemed like it all went to shit when Walsh left and Rudders basically just threw money at old targets. Probably wrong though.

[Stadt]

Nobody really knows anything about transfer procedures so you can blame Rudkin, Macia, Walsh, Mills or Ranieri all you like but the fact of the matter is that we simply don't know. In these situations it's easy to scapegoat an individual but the blame is at least partially shared amongst the the manager and the recruitment team. 

However what I will say is that under Pearson and Walsh our signings were largely on the money but since then they've been consistently underwhelming bar one in N'Didi.

[Gerard]

8 hours ago, Koke said:

Some loans, some sold. But none are left here. 

 

 

 

What a shite five a side that team is and with a sub as well.

 

£70m, imagine swapping Mahrez for that lot. 

[Rogstanley]

29 minutes ago, Wookie said:

Nobody really knows anything about transfer procedures so you can blame Rudkin, Macia, Walsh, Mills or Ranieri all you like but the fact of the matter is that we simply don't know. In these situations it's easy to scapegoat an individual but the blame is at least partially shared amongst the the manager and the recruitment team. 

However what I will say is that under Pearson and Walsh our signings were largely on the money but since then they've been consistently underwhelming bar one in N'Didi.

Maguire, Iborra, Silva

 

I’d say the Walsh signings were 50/50 with 3 or 4 of them being outstanding. For most of their time it was a lot easier to make good signings because we were, to coin a phrase, “market leaders”. We could easily beat most other championship clubs to the better players and thanks to the owners had all the money in the world to do so. It’s a lot harder to make good signings in our current position.

Edited 1 February 2018 by Rogstanley

[Stadt]

Just now, Rogstanley said:

Maguire, Iborra

 

I’d say the Walsh signings were 50/50, but of course for most of their time it was a lot easier to make good signings because we were, to coin a phrase, “market leaders”. We could easily beat most other championship clubs to the better players and thanks to the owners had all the money in the world to do so. It’s a lot harder to make good signings in our current position.

Yeah Maguire's been an excellent signing tbf. Iborra is a decent player but I wouldn't call him a particular good signing.

[deep blue]

12 hours ago, steflcfc said:

If I remember right....I think there was an Interview with Morgan at the start of the season, and he said Musa was banging the goals in for fun in training.

 

Is he purely a confidence player who needed a run of games upfront? We will never know!

 

He never really got going in a City shirt.

I'm currently reading Muzzy's book and it says exactly the same about Akinbiyi - sensational in training but lost all confidence carrying an expectation (and price tag) too big for him to handle. Oh, and he had Twatlor as manager, which couldn't have helped.

[Fox 4 Life]

19 hours ago, ZeGuy said:

Nearly all of them never really got a chance or were played out of position.

 

The only one who was utter crap is Musa.

 

Kaputska should have his own X-File to find out on which basis we signed him

He looked great at the Euros and wasn't big money. It was hardly a huge risk.

[reynard]

Don't worry most of them will be back in June. They're only on loan so still our players really and hard to see many being bought.

[foxes21]

Just a thought but with King gone most likely for good, maybe Puel is thinking about keeping Mendy?

 

We do need another energetic midfielder as back up for Wilf imo.

 

Also we know Puel loves youngsters so maybe he’ll give Cabbage a chance to prove himself in the summer.

[1969]

18 hours ago, Footballwipe said:

Broke our transfer record three times too, remember... Look at our history of record signings ffs

 

Eadie

Akinbiyi

Mills

Karamaric (will ignore Ulloa, he was okay)

Musa

Mendy

Slimani

 

There's definitely some kind of hex on us with record signings either getting injured, being utterly appalling or just not fitting in.

 

I’m really struggling to remember a record signing in living memory that had the kind of impact you would expect. I go back a long  way so can remember equally bad high value signings like Roger Davies. It’s interesting that our “legends” were nearly all bought for relatively low fees or from lower league sides, were fringe or reserve team players, were home grown or latterly French grown, or were (slightly) flawed geniuses. Obviously, in part it’s because we’ve never been big enough to attract the highest level of player when they are at the prime, but it would be interesting to see how many players we have bought over the years for a record or even substantial fee that turned out to be worth the investment. It’s no wonder the owners are investing so much in youth players and development facilities.

[Guest Bob Hazels shorts]

 

We create good players.

 

We don't really have a history of buying off the shelf, good to go proven players at what ever level we have been at.

 

Those who have been there and done it have been a risk as either on the way out or have issues and not straight forward. Collymore, Cottee etc

Edited 2 February 2018 by Bob Hazels shorts

[fuchsntf]

22 hours ago, simFox said:

Is liked to have seen more of Mendy, bit unfortunate he got injured. I don't think we were able to service slim, he might have come good. Be interesting to see how he fares at Newcastle.

Yup!  Agree Like to see If Mendy can return fit,injury free and  be a worthy Addition and asset

to our midfield...