volpeazzurro Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 At his age now he's not got another England tournament left in him to aim for, injury and Chelsea buggered that up for him. No real target for him to aim for anymore. Sadly on the downward spiral. See no good point in having him back.
Ian Nacho Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 5 hours ago, bpfox said: i really hope maherz, takes note of what happened to drinkwater, the big clubs dont give u weeks and weeks to preform, maybe we should buy him a doughnut ring just so he does not get splinters when warming the bench, because he will spend a lot of time on it.. In all fairness, Mahrez is different class compared to Drinkwater. 2
BKLFox Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 Head v Heart I guess, I would have to answer do we really need him, what does he bring that we don't already have? Whilst we seemed to be short on the ground in midfield the last few weeks of the season I don't think he comes with what we need now, yes he's hard working & can pick a long pass but if we say Wilf is main DM with Hamza as cover then Iborra & Silva covering the 2nd position along with any U21/23 players breaking through & the many midfielders that are returning from loans/injury then he's warming our bench at best & that's only if we don't sign that true CAM we really need. Head rules so no, fee/wages to be spent on specialised creativity in midfield.
Babylon Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 5 hours ago, volpeazzurro said: At his age now he's not got another England tournament left in him to aim for, injury and Chelsea buggered that up for him. No real target for him to aim for anymore. Sadly on the downward spiral. See no good point in having him back. He's 28? With our current lack of CM's he could still make two tournaments.
suffolk fox Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 2 minutes ago, BKLFox said: Head v Heart I guess, I would have to answer do we really need him, what does he bring that we don't already have? Whilst we seemed to be short on the ground in midfield the last few weeks of the season I don't think he comes with what we need now, yes he's hard working & can pick a long pass but if we say Wilf is main DM with Hamza as cover then Iborra & Silva covering the 2nd position along with any U21/23 players breaking through & the many midfielders that are returning from loans/injury then he's warming our bench at best & that's only if we don't sign that true CAM we really need. Head rules so no, fee/wages to be spent on specialised creativity in midfield. I dont want James or King anywhere near our first team next season.
OhYesNdidi Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 Just now, Babylon said: He's 28? With our current lack of CM's he could still make two tournaments. He stinks of a West Ham sigining tbh 1
BKLFox Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 2 minutes ago, suffolk fox said: I dont want James or King anywhere near our first team next season. With naming the 4 I did & mentioning the numourous returning midfielders I was trying to highlight that we would just be stockpiling midfield players without upgrading on those 4. I agree James, King & DD are sadly part of our past as much as we all liked them at 1 point or other. 1
Leeds Fox Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 11 hours ago, BKLFox said: With naming the 4 I did & mentioning the numourous returning midfielders I was trying to highlight that we would just be stockpiling midfield players without upgrading on those 4. I agree James, King & DD are sadly part of our past as much as we all liked them at 1 point or other. Personally there hasn’t been a point when I haven’t liked King or James, almost nothing to dislike about them. Limited in their own rights but both very proffesional and maybe we’ve outgrown their potential. James would be worth keeping on the books if he can stay fit I reckon. 2
volpeazzurro Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 13 hours ago, Babylon said: He's 28? With our current lack of CM's he could still make two tournaments. Think there'll be better more relevant younger options around in a couple of years that Southgate, if he's still there will opt for first. Drinkwater has got to find a club to give him regular injury free football with him performing at the equivalent or higher standards of his special year and I don't see that happening.
Countryfox Posted 3 June 2018 Posted 3 June 2018 Spoke to someone who spoke to DD a couple of months ago ... he really misses Leicester. (Reliability factor 90%). I would take him back at the right price and if nothing else he would keep our preferred midfield pairing on their toes or even better get back to what he was ... all subjective but I certainly wouldn’t just write him off. Good feeling that he misses us ... still love him.
OhYesNdidi Posted 3 June 2018 Posted 3 June 2018 5 minutes ago, Countryfox said: Spoke to someone who spoke to DD a couple of months ago ... he really misses Leicester. (Reliability factor 90%). I would take him back at the right price and if nothing else he would keep our preferred midfield pairing on their toes or even better get back to what he was ... all subjective but I certainly wouldn’t just write him off. Good feeling that he misses us ... still love him. He's no better than Iborra or Silva. In fact, James out perfomed him in pre - season. No thanks. 1
Babylon Posted 3 June 2018 Posted 3 June 2018 25 minutes ago, OhYesNdidi said: He's no better than Iborra or Silva. In fact, James out perfomed him in pre - season. No thanks. Judging but by what I've seen on the pitch, none of those are yet to match his standards he's shown here. Silva has done nothing, James just can't stop getting injured and Iborra is as much miss as he is hit. 3
Countryfox Posted 3 June 2018 Posted 3 June 2018 1 minute ago, Babylon said: Judging but by what I've seen on the pitch, none of those are yet to match his standards he's shown here. Silva has done nothing, James just can't stop getting injured and Iborra is as much miss as he is hit. What he said ! ...
OhYesNdidi Posted 3 June 2018 Posted 3 June 2018 3 minutes ago, Babylon said: Judging but by what I've seen on the pitch, none of those are yet to match his standards he's shown here. Silva has done nothing, James just can't stop getting injured and Iborra is as much miss as he is hit. agree to disagree then. Drinkwater was good in 15/16 & the start of 16/17 but he's been average at best ever since. His continues ball over the top to Vardy was a hindrance to the side and I felt at the time, he needed to leave. If a top CM becomes available, I'd want us to upgrade, but Drinky isn't any better than anything we've got. Added to the fact that we wouldn't offer anything like he was on before (I guess we'd offer him 50k p/w ish?) I can't see this happening anyway.
katieakita Posted 3 June 2018 Posted 3 June 2018 Really depends on which DD we sign. maybe his best days are behind him. Would have thought our backroom staff know who serious these niggles are. At the right price and a chance to get his fitness levels back we could do a lot worse, as for Iborra I see him dropping back a ball playing centre half
lcfc sheff Posted 3 June 2018 Posted 3 June 2018 Iborra is the only one who's shown similar influence on the pitch to Drinkwater, and that's saying something. Drinkwater when we won the championship was the best player in the league, when we won the prem he was 4th to Kante, Mahrez and Vardy; since then he's disappointed and hasn't looked the same and I fear he never will be.
Keiriel Posted 3 June 2018 Posted 3 June 2018 As much as I appreciate Billy Benchwarmer's contributions to the club, I'd prefer we move forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always twirling.
Babylon Posted 4 June 2018 Posted 4 June 2018 These "move forward" comments I don't understand, if we could afford Kante, would people not want him because he once played for us? If someone can improve you, if shouldn't matter whether they were once a player, or manager, or scout, or DOF here previously. The last time we moved "backwards" and got Pearson, it was one of the best decisions the club ever made, despite the "never go back" nonsense that gets spouted. All things considered I don't think he'd be value for money unless Chelsea are prepared to make huge losses on fee and wages. But basing any decision on someone having been here before, is just plain odd IMO. 4
murphy Posted 4 June 2018 Posted 4 June 2018 We already have six midfielders competing for that single spot next to Wilf - Iborra, Silva, King, James, Mendy and Choudury 1
lcfc sheff Posted 4 June 2018 Posted 4 June 2018 Let's not forget he was playing shit before we sold him and hasn't looked good at Chelsea either
baldeagle Posted 4 June 2018 Posted 4 June 2018 53 minutes ago, Babylon said: These "move forward" comments I don't understand, if we could afford Kante, would people not want him because he once played for us? If someone can improve you, if shouldn't matter whether they were once a player, or manager, or scout, or DOF here previously. The last time we moved "backwards" and got Pearson, it was one of the best decisions the club ever made, despite the "never go back" nonsense that gets spouted. All things considered I don't think he'd be value for money unless Chelsea are prepared to make huge losses on fee and wages. But basing any decision on someone having been here before, is just plain odd IMO. Kante is world class Drinkwater isn’t . There are many players the same level as Drinkwater and some players that are better I think that’s why many would see it as not moving forward or a backward step as you can get the equivalent or better player ar probably a fraction of the cost . And as others have mentioned he only really had 1 and a half good seasons
Babylon Posted 4 June 2018 Posted 4 June 2018 16 minutes ago, baldeagle said: Kante is world class Drinkwater isn’t . There are many players the same level as Drinkwater and some players that are better I think that’s why many would see it as not moving forward or a backward step as you can get the equivalent or better player ar probably a fraction of the cost . And as others have mentioned he only really had 1 and a half good seasons And yet we keep struggling to find those better players.
Babylon Posted 4 June 2018 Posted 4 June 2018 1 hour ago, murphy said: We already have six midfielders competing for that single spot next to Wilf - Iborra, Silva, King, James, Mendy and Choudury Other than Wilf, have any of them shown any kind of consistent form? Quite honestly I'd happily get of 4 of those and get another option in. 1
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