Diabate - What should we do?

[sdb]

Great potential but very raw. He’d tear it up in a lower league but feel like he’d most benefit with a PL loan. Not sure many would take the gamble and guarantee him minutes yet though. Personally think he has way more game understanding and variety to his game than Gray. 

[les-tah]

4 hours ago, The whole world smiles said:

 

Oh good another scapegoat! Musa and Slimani are barely out the door and already the usual suspects are circling a new victim like hyenas on wounded baby gazelle!

 

he's 22 and started 6 competitive games for Leicester, lets not write the poor Fucher of just yet lads!

Mahrez arrived when he was 22  not even saying he will be as good or nearly as good but lets put things into perspective and give the lad a chance to develop...

[les-tah]

1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said:

Musa's already gone if reports this morning are to be believed.

Musa was at training this morning as per ndidis social feed  

[Foxxed]

57 minutes ago, tylesta said:

His pass found ndidi and ndidis pass found maddison 

I had another look. You're right. I'll edit my previous post. He was involved anyhow.

[Samilktray]

This lad definitely isn't better than Gray btw 

[TheLittleBigMan]

I like him. Always positive on the ball and wants to get forward instead of the constant sideways passing we got sick of last season. Can't believe we're judging him already. Raw talent yes, but isn't that a good thing? Granted you wouldn't want to have him as a guaranteed starter at this stage but come on, young an exciting talent is exactly what we need going forward. Keep him in the squad this season and get behind him.   

[Gerard]

6 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

He was shit in the league last year as well. He's fast and runs around a lot. Great. 

 

He's also majorly raw, had **** all end product even in France and its a mystery we ever signed him in the first place. 

 

Our rivals are all signing established quality wingers and we've got two unproven kids and an ageing Marc Albrighton. 

 

It's absurd. 

 

Albrighton is 28, he still has about another three years in him before he starts to decline.

 

We can still select Maddison, Iheanacho, Gray and Albrighton as options for the three behind Vardy. There is still Okazaki and Diabate to support those. Whilst I still think we're a top quality player short in that position it's far from a crisis.

[Gerard]

He is what he is, a young but raw cheap buy from Ligue 2.

 

I like this signing, it's obvious he has talent and he should either become a player for us or we sell for a half decent profit a couple of years down the line. He could probably do with a season at a Championship club like Harvey Barnes and see with regular game time he becomes a good player at that level.  His career before he came here was reserve team football and 18 apps in Ligue 2 so in football years he's a lot younger than his 22 birth years and needs time and game experience before being judged. At the moment though we probably can't afford to let him go on loan.

[Ian Nacho]

Good potential, he's got a good touch and can look alright on the ball but absolutely no end product. 

[Tielemans63]

3 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said:

Good potential, he's got a good touch and can look alright on the ball but absolutely no end product. 

I'd agree with all of that but I'd also add that he is incredibly one-footed, especially for a top flight footballer which makes him quite predictable.

[Ian Nacho]

Just now, Paddy. said:

I'd agree with all of that but I'd also add that he is incredibly one-footed, especially for a top flight footballer which makes him quite predictable.

It's alright to be one footed, look at Mahrez, but that one foot has to be exceptional.

[Guest Col city fan]

This thread reminds me of when @kingfox so vociferously criticized Drinkwater on here, stating pretty much that he’d come to nothing. I’d laff my nut off now if Diabate goes on to have a storming season...

[gurru991]

I love his enthusiasm & think that with the right coaching he could develop into an exciting player. Working with young players, It's what Puel is reputed to best at so lets hope he can make this lad a winner.

[Tielemans63]

20 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said:

It's alright to be one footed, look at Mahrez, but that one foot has to be exceptional.

True. Although I would say that Diabete isn't exceptional...yet. Riyad was different though because, though he obviously favoured one foot over the other, he was still competent with his weaker foot - I don't think Diabete is. Also, hard one to explain this, but Riyad still had that balance and body shape to somehow get it onto his right foot, even in tight situations. Fousseni doesn't have that, his body shape and balance give him away in the sense that you know he's only going to go one way. Riyad could go inside or outside and could dribble at pace with both feet. Diabete only uses one foot when he's dribbling. Very Lloyd Dyer-esque.

[oxford blue]

I agree with those who say a loan deal would be best. It highlights the expectations of PL fans whose club sign anyone (who does not go directly to development squad) who is a raw talent. I think it likely there would have been similar posts about Mahrez, Vardy (& Knockaert) had we signed them when in PL.. Most certainly for Vardy as many wanted to sell him when he was not a consistent goalscorer in Championship. I think Diabate has potential to become a regular.

 

13 minutes ago, Paddy. said:

True. Although I would say that Diabete isn't exceptional...yet. Riyad was different though because, though he obviously favoured one foot over the other, he was still competent with his weaker foot - I don't think Diabete is. Also, hard one to explain this, but Riyad still had that balance and body shape to somehow get it onto his right foot, even in tight situations. Fousseni doesn't have that, his body shape and balance give him away in the sense that you know he's only going to go one way. Riyad could go inside or outside and could dribble at pace with both feet. Diabete only uses one foot when he's dribbling. Very Lloyd Dyer-esque.

Regarding - "Riyad still had that balance and body shape to somehow get it onto his right foot," True, but not when he signed; isn't this a skill he has developed?

[kingfox]

24 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

This thread reminds me of when @kingfox so vociferously criticized Drinkwater on here, stating pretty much that he’d come to nothing. I’d laff my nut off now if Diabate goes on to have a storming season...

Not quite stating it in the same manner as I did with Drinkwater tbf Col.

 

He's been shit this pre season which is the truth, so I'm looking for opinions.

 

I'm not hating on him, he might turn out to be decent this season or next season, right now his form deserves to be discussed, that is all.

[Tielemans63]

7 minutes ago, oxford blue said:

Regarding - "Riyad still had that balance and body shape to somehow get it onto his right foot," True, but not when he signed; isn't this a skill he has developed?

You and others may disagree but I would argue that it WAS something he already had when he signed. He was already a very skilfull player and I think he had that natural balance from Day 1.

 

Of course he got better with higher level coaching but I'd say the main improvements were in dealing with the physical side of the game. He had fantastic technique when he joined from what I remember. Happy to be proven wrong if I am mistaken.

 

[Dickov22]

8 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

He was shit in the league last year as well. He's fast and runs around a lot. Great. 

 

He's also majorly raw, had **** all end product even in France and its a mystery we ever signed him in the first place. 

 

Our rivals are all signing established quality wingers and we've got two unproven kids and an ageing Marc Albrighton. 

 

It's absurd. 

 

He wasnt shit in the league last season though. 

[jayfox26]

Foxestalk at its best! Yes hes not the finished article and not ready to be a regular starter but that doesn't mean we should sell him. The players we should sell are the older players who aren't going to Improve like ulloa, slim and a others but selling a kid with potential whos only 22 is just ridiculous. Some players dont make it into first team football until they are 23/24 where as others play regularly at 18. Give the kid a chance before we write him off. A loan wouldn't be a bad idea if we can get another winger or 2 in.

[MPH]

2 hours ago, sdb said:

Great potential but very raw. He’d tear it up in a lower league but feel like he’d most benefit with a PL loan. Not sure many would take the gamble and guarantee him minutes yet though. Personally think he has way more game understanding and variety to his game than Gray. 

 

 

he reminds me a bit of Max gradel.... He's clearly got it but needs game time to develop...

[foxinsocks]

Look... when he cones on he runs directly into the box with the ball.  This terrifies big defenders who dont know if to put a leg out.  He needs development but he can make things happen. 

 

So many of my posts suggest that we should have personal coaches to help our players kick on and make the changes they need.  We pay so much in wages surely we could have personal coaches. ... only in football would tnis state of affairs be tolerated

[Jimmy]

33 minutes ago, foxinsocks said:

Look... when he cones on he eub directly into the box with the ball.  This terrufues bug defenders who dont know if to put a leg out.  He needs development but he can make things happen. 

 

So many of my posts suggest that we should have personal coaches to help our players kick on and make the changes they need.  We pay so much in wages surely we could have personal coaches. ... only in football would tnis state of affairs be tolerated

just having a more than Stowell and the Assistant Manager would be a start

[VLC86]

He needs loaning to a championship team   If we sign another winger because he isn’t premier league quality yet.

[foxinsocks]

1 hour ago, Jimmy said:

just having a more than Stowell and the Assistant Manager would be a start

So we'll pay someone 100k pw and not bother having any individualised dev prog for them.  Even at my work we put more effort into helping our staff members up their game.

That would explain why slim never improved or addressed the things he needed for the prem all the time we had him.  I said this before and someone asked how i knew what he was focusing on.... yet i knew that i wasnt seeing any improvement week in week out. Same for musa and grey.  We need a dof who will get more from the money we spend in fees and wages.  Managers.. just look to next sat

[STUHILL]

He played himself ahead of Gray last season and made an instant impact when he joined. 

 

Always busy and looking for the ball and wanting to make things happen. 

 

I remember being very excited that it looked like we had unearthed another gem.  

 

So I'm surprised with the way he's looked in pre-season. I wonder whether he could be a bit of a flash in the pan or perhaps it's a confidence (over confidence perhaps!) thing, but he certainly looks different to what we saw when he first joined us. 

 

Deserves the benefit of the doubt though and as a 4th choice winger, he will suffice until January - but we do absolutely need to sign a starting winger this window, as Gray, Albrighton and Diabate are not going to be enough for us!