The "do they mean us?" thread pt 2

[Jimothy]

2 minutes ago, mazarron fox said:

Fixed it for you 

I read it as that anyway  

[urban.spaceman]

22 minutes ago, Koke said:

Saw John Aldridge have a dig at Wolves fans yesterday. The grammar and punctuations were all over the place. I cringe at many of these ex pros.

You should see Ian Marshall's tweets. My nephew's spelling is better and he's not even going to be born for another month.

[cruzFOX]

I used to watch this comic caper of a show a while back but don’t miss it one bit. Nicol always has been a blatantly biased liverpool pundit. In recent years he’s become more obnoxious and ignorant as Liverpool have started winning titles. He’s completely useless for commenting on anything other than his beloved team. Espn imo should just bring him on for special appearances but I’m guessing they keep him in for the pure shock value of entertainment. Until he upsets viewers and hurt ratings that is. That performance was shameful and disrespectful to the other pundit as well as viewers! So childish. Shaka hislop and that Moreno guy are also annoying self important jerks too but Nicolas takes the biscuit. Only Craig Burley is gobby enough to stand up to them all. Don’t always agree with him but atleast he gives Leicester credit when it’s due and holds his ground.

(Here’s an example from an older episode)

 

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[Hammo]

The fact of the matter is that Liverpool wouldn’t be so universally loathed if it wasn’t for all their gobby, biased, ill-educated ex-players that clog up the media.

 

Owen, Souness, McManaman, Nicol, Thompson, Lawrenson etc are all hideously one-eyed fan boys. Only Carragher is just about tolerable.

[Spudulike]

30 minutes ago, Hammo said:

The fact of the matter is that Liverpool wouldn’t be so universally loathed if it wasn’t for all their gobby, biased, ill-educated ex-players that clog up the media.

 

Owen, Souness, McManaman, Nicol, Thompson, Lawrenson etc are all hideously one-eyed fan boys. Only Carragher is just about tolerable.

Especially when spitting out of car windows. 

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

On teenage girls. How he kept his job is beyond me, for that alone I can't stand the man and never will, low of the low.

[Corky]

2 hours ago, Nalis said:

What a condescending tweet.

The more you see that bloke tweet and write articles, the sweeter his bitterness after the League Cup final in 2000 tastes.

[CityIsBlue]

The Liverpool biased pundits are no more biased than any of the other ex players from any other club.

 

Neville and the Man United old boys are still heavily biased towards them, their unwillingless to criticize Solskjaer is embarrassing.

Hoddle is incapable of saying a bad word about Spurs.

 

 

The 'Smaller' clubs are no exception. Even Matt Murray made of fool of himself yesterday when claiming Wolves have suffered from VAR more than other clubs.....Not realizing that what he actually meant is that they were receiving more favorable decisions from referees than any other club, before VAR came to the correct decisions.

Wolves actually had two decisions wrongly go their way yesterday, before VAR came to the correct conclusion. Same with their disallowed goal at our place, which was incorrectly ruled fine before VAR enforced the rules of the game.

Edited 30 December 2019 by CityIsBlue

[Jimothy]

9 minutes ago, CityIsBlue said:

The Liverpool biased pundits are no more biased than any of the other ex players from any other club.

 

Neville and the Man United old boys are still heavily biased towards them, their unwillingless to criticize Solskjaer is embarrassing.

Hoddle is incapable of saying a bad word about Spurs.

 

 

The 'Smaller' clubs are no exception. Even Matt Murray made of fool of himself yesterday when claiming Wolves have suffered from VAR more than other clubs.....Not realizing that what he actually meant is that they were receiving more favorable decisions from referees than any other club, before VAR came to the correct decisions.

Wolves actually had two decisions wrongly go their way yesterday, before VAR came to the correct conclusion. Same with their disallowed goal at our place, which was incorrectly ruled fine before VAR enforced the rules of the game.

Neville is ok in the most part, but he has struggled to criticise hid old mate Ole. Prior to that he's been very fair regarding Man Utd's fall and their traditional rivals success.

[CUJimmy]

4 hours ago, Koke said:

This the most entertaining thing I've seen recently. Steve Nicol is seething because the other fella dares to pick a non Liverpool player  basically 

 

 

That was pretty embarrassing to watch tbh.  I couldn’t work out if Nicol is told to be obtuse or if he really is that one-eyed.  On one had you must pick VVD because he is the best defender but then you don’t pick Vardy even though he has scored by far the most goals.

1 hour ago, Hammo said:

The fact of the matter is that Liverpool wouldn’t be so universally loathed if it wasn’t for all their gobby, biased, ill-educated ex-players that clog up the media.

 

Owen, Souness, McManaman, Nicol, Thompson, Lawrenson etc are all hideously one-eyed fan boys. Only Carragher is just about tolerable.

Agree on most of this but don’t find Thompson too bad, at least he jokes about his bias (like Le Tis) but Owen and McManaman in particular would claim to be objective.

[HybridFox]

I remember Steve Nicol regularly insisting we'd lose every game in our Champions League season. Made a complete mockery of the guy. Clearly so relevant he never graces our TV screens.

[Jimothy]

5 hours ago, Koke said:

This the most entertaining thing I've seen recently. Steve Nicol is seething because the other fella dares to pick a non Liverpool player  basically 

 

 

Nicol does that annoying thing that Chris Sutton has made his trait. Somebody makes a statement, like they'd pick Vardy over Mane, or Leicester over Celtic, and they cut in with the question "Oh so you'd pick ______ over ______ would you?" and before they can get a response they just shout things like "Ridiculous" or "Rubbish" but never actually put an arguement forward. They question an opinion and the rubbish it before they even hear the answer. Why do broadcasters think we want to hear these idiots?

[Paninistickers]

2 hours ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said:

On teenage girls. How he kept his job is beyond me, for that alone I can't stand the man and never will, low of the low.

I always find that odd. Sky from the first minute went on damage limitation, packed him.off for a few weeks and waited til the storm blew over. Why were they so keen to keep him? He's mind numbingly average as a pundit, so it certainly can't be his insight that's so vital.

 

Just try and imagine Shearer spitting on a teenage Sunderland fan. Or Ian Wright at a Spurs girl. Crouch. Hoddle. Ruud Gullit. Dion Dublin. Anyone basically. In all cases the thought of it is as repugnant as it is absurd for a grown man to do that.

[Nalis]

1 hour ago, CityIsBlue said:

The Liverpool biased pundits are no more biased than any of the other ex players from any other club.

 

Neville and the Man United old boys are still heavily biased towards them, their unwillingless to criticize Solskjaer is embarrassing.

Hoddle is incapable of saying a bad word about Spurs.

 

 

The 'Smaller' clubs are no exception. Even Matt Murray made of fool of himself yesterday when claiming Wolves have suffered from VAR more than other clubs.....Not realizing that what he actually meant is that they were receiving more favorable decisions from referees than any other club, before VAR came to the correct decisions.

Wolves actually had two decisions wrongly go their way yesterday, before VAR came to the correct conclusion. Same with their disallowed goal at our place, which was incorrectly ruled fine before VAR enforced the rules of the game.

I think Neville and Keane are fair on Man Utd as a whole and have criticised Man Utd at appropriate times.

 

But yeah you're right in that when they criticise its always the players' fault and never the manager's.

[TRAD-DAD]

6 hours ago, Koke said:

None of the managers we have sacked in the last 25 years can be described as "brutal".

I wish someone would " brutally " sack me for a million quid pay off.

[HighPeakFox]

1 hour ago, Facecloth said:

Nicol does that annoying thing that Chris Sutton has made his trait. Somebody makes a statement, like they'd pick Vardy over Mane, or Leicester over Celtic, and they cut in with the question "Oh so you'd pick ______ over ______ would you?" and before they can get a response they just shout things like "Ridiculous" or "Rubbish" but never actually put an arguement forward. They question an opinion and the rubbish it before they even hear the answer. Why do broadcasters think we want to hear these idiots?

Because, unfortunately, that is how a significant number of people conduct their 'arguments'.

[Corky]

1 hour ago, Facecloth said:

Neville is ok in the most part, but he has struggled to criticise hid old mate Ole. Prior to that he's been very fair regarding Man Utd's fall and their traditional rivals success.

Don't like him when he's commentating on them and they aren't playing well. Starts to sulk and act like a fan would.

[Guest Manini]

1 minute ago, Corky said:

Don't like him when he's commentating on them and they aren't playing well. Starts to sulk and act like a fan would.

Genuinely the best bit about his commentary for me 

[TRAD-DAD]

I get a certain satisfaction of knowing that when the floodlights go out and the Liverpool fans trudge home they are hit with the realisation that they still have to live in Liverpool. No wonder  that football is the centre of their lives. imagine having to live in that cesspit with nothing else to live for?

[Corky]

3 minutes ago, Manini said:

Genuinely the best bit about his commentary for me 

I certainly won't complain about Man United struggling but he's working for an independent broadcaster, not local radio or club TV. When I'm watching a game we want the co-commentator to analyse what is happening on the pitch, not sit there sulking that his former team aren't what they used to be.

[Guest Manini]

Just now, Corky said:

I certainly won't complain about Man United struggling but he's working for an independent broadcaster, not local radio or club TV. When I'm watching a game we want the co-commentator to analyse what is happening on the pitch, not sit there sulking that his former team aren't what they used to be.

I didn’t mean it in that way either to be fair. I understand what you’re saying, but I enjoy the brashness of it all to be honest. He’s Red Nev, we know he’s Red Nev, he can’t hide that and we know he isn’t going to be 100% impartial all the time and he doesn’t try to be (anymore, he did an interview previously where he said when he started he was trying to be too polished and his comms suffered).
 

I don’t think he loses all foresight of tactical analysis when he goes off on one either, it would be unfair to say he completely throws his toys out the pram when he’s in one of those moods. I do also think he’s the very best in the business at the moment of actually offering an insight in to what a player is thinking, why they’ve reacted a certain way, what it’s actually like to be a professional footballer. It’s each to their own completely but personally I think it’s a breath of fresh air to have a commentator who isn’t afraid to show some of his true feelings. 

[yorkie1999]

4 hours ago, Hammo said:

The fact of the matter is that Liverpool wouldn’t be so universally loathed if it wasn’t for all their gobby, biased, ill-educated ex-players that clog up the media.

 

Owen, Souness, McManaman, Nicol, Thompson, Lawrenson etc are all hideously one-eyed fan boys. Only Carragher is just about tolerable.

I wouldn’t say that, I’d say it’s more to do with their scummy fans, I know the argument is that every club has them but whenever there’s trouble, especially abroad, Liverpool fans are nearly always in the midst of it. How do you think all those fashions in the 70s took off, it was Liverpool fans on tour smashing shops up and nicking all the Italian designer stuff, there was hysel, something that no one dare mention, Man City the other year, that disabled bloke being lobbed in a fountain. Every year something seems to happen with their fans at the centre off it, and it’s never their fault. My mate, a wba fan, went to the 25th hillsborough disaster match v Liverpool at the hawthorns where West Brom reserved 96 seats to commemorate the victims and their fans filled them up! Now that could be down to ignorance or not realising but, considering all the isles were full as well,  where did all those extra fans come from.  I predict that after they win the trophy, there will be some trouble involving their fans but it’ll be quiet up until then so as not to upset the fa 

[mozartfox]

Given the way Wolves were mugged off yesterday (and the Sane penalty debacle when we lost up their) Livarpool are in danger of losing a large slice of credibility when they lift the Title later in the season. They have had extraordinary 'help' from VAR thus far.

[murphy]

2 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

I wouldn’t say that, I’d say it’s more to do with their scummy fans, I know the argument is that every club has them but whenever there’s trouble, especially abroad, Liverpool fans are nearly always in the midst of it. How do you think all those fashions in the 70s took off, it was Liverpool fans on tour smashing shops up and nicking all the Italian designer stuff, there was hysel, something that no one dare mention, Man City the other year, that disabled bloke being lobbed in a fountain. Every year something seems to happen with their fans at the centre off it, and it’s never their fault. My mate, a wba fan, went to the 25th hillsborough disaster match v Liverpool at the hawthorns where West Brom reserved 96 seats to commemorate the victims and their fans filled them up! Now that could be down to ignorance or not realising but, considering all the isles were full as well,  where did all those extra fans come from.  I predict that after they win the trophy, there will be some trouble involving their fans but it’ll be quiet up until then so as not to upset the fa 

And let's not forget that they taunted Man United with Munich songs for decades until they had a tradgedy of their own and realised that it's not very funny.

[Legend_in_blue]

1 minute ago, mozartfox said:

Given the way Wolves were mugged off yesterday (and the Sane penalty debacle when we lost up their) Livarpool are in danger of losing a large slice of credibility when they lift the Title later in the season. They have had extraordinary 'help' from VAR thus far.

 

Just read this on the BBC.