Iborra

[StriderHiryu]

I really like Iborra, he's always been a model professional and committed to the cause. But I do think a move away is the right call. He's not in the first team and he's too slow for the way we play. Not just physically, but in his style of play. He is a decent passer of the ball, but he plays it slowly like a lot of Spanish teams do. I agree with some of the comments above that it will create space to sign someone else or promote another player from within that is a better passer of the ball, which I could see happening in the summer.

[Bazly]

Pity he is leaving. being one of the few who can actually pass a ball and one of the even fewer who can actually score from headers at corners.

[moore_94]

8 minutes ago, Alex_LCFC said:

Is this a permanent move? 

Think I saw somewhere on twitter that it will either be permanent or loan with obligation to buy in the summer

[Rigga]

4 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

I really like Iborra, he's always been a model professional and committed to the cause. But I do think a move away is the right call. He's not in the first team and he's too slow for the way we play. Not just physically, but in his style of play. He is a decent passer of the ball, but he plays it slowly like a lot of Spanish teams do. I agree with some of the comments above that it will create space to sign someone else or promote another player from within that is a better passer of the ball, which I could see happening in the summer.

Too slow for the way we play ???

Have you seen us under Puel 

[les-tah]

as good and as experienced Iborra is he just doesn't fit our style, with him and silva out the door and off the wage bill it opens it up for a more forward thinking talented box to box player to either play in a 3 or a 2 with one of either Mendy or Ndidi

[les-tah]

8 minutes ago, Rigga said:

Too slow for the way we play ???

Have you seen us under Puel 

The players are not quite technically good enough to play the style Puel wants yet thats why a new CM is needed.

[Trav Le Bleu]

49 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said:

Don’t worry people, I’ll pop round tonight and block his driveway.

You live near Saffron Lane?

[kingfox]

Always found him slightly overrated tbh.

 

His passing was average, he always had the tendency for rash challenges and he was too slow.

[Alf Bentley]

10 minutes ago, mazarron fox said:

That translates as next season 

 

The phrasing is slightly ambiguous, but I disagree: "próxima temporada" in the singular would probably mean "next season", but "próximas temporadas" in the plural is vaguer and more likely translates as "some time soon" or even just "soon"..

Could mean he's going to play for Villareal over "coming seasons", but less likely.

 

Iborra's own comments support it happening in January: https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/vicente-iborra-leicester-city-transfer-2382042

 

[turtmcfly]

10 minutes ago, baldeagle said:

Blokes obviously technically good but he’s too slow and ponderous on the ball for the premiership. 

Was about to write this in the Elneny thread. Based solely on what we've seen in a Leicester shirt I just don't get the 'class player' comments, unless 'class' means 'taking his lack of game time like a gentleman'. His passing is OK but hardly outstanding, he's an aerial 'threat' in the sense that you'd think he'd get on the end of corners (but doesn't really). Nothing he does well comes close to making up for his lack of pace and his apparent insistence on not being hurried (and thus being harried) on the ball.

 

 

 

 

[Rigga]

3 minutes ago, les-tah said:

The players are not quite technically good enough to play the style Puel wants yet thats why a new CM is needed.

What style does Puel want us to play...?

Based on a year, it’s slow possession based keep the ball at all costs whether it goes sideways/backwards does not matter.

 

Are you convinced a new CM is coming in when we have not been linked with any.. Just another DM from Arse.

[Deeg67]

I liked Iborra and Puel dropping him for James when he was seemingly on a good run of form is one of my least favorite decisions he’s made. But clearly he wasn’t in Puel’s plans so this is probably best for everybody.

 

What I know, however, is this happening now would leave us dangerously thin in midfield, and totally lacking a CM who’s good on the ball (assuming Silva is gone too). Surely you’d think some sort of signing has to be happening there.

[StriderHiryu]

22 minutes ago, Rigga said:

Too slow for the way we play ???

Have you seen us under Puel 

Yep and what I am saying is that Iborra moves it even slower than some of the others around him, which is saying something!

 

I still like him as a person and as a player but I can see why he'd be allowed to go. The manager does not deliberately want us to move the ball slowly, he has said on many occasions the complete opposite. Ndidi and Mendy aren't exactly the shining lights in this department, but given Iborra is likely on decent wages at his age and with limited resale value, this is a case of getting players off the books first to allow for another player to come in or step up. To give you an example of what Puel wants from a central midifelder, look at Jean-Michael Seri at Fulham who was in his Nice team in 15/16 when they finished 4th in Ligue 1, and was linked with Barcelona.

 

Another example for us is to look at Ricardo and Simpson. Simpson is one of the league winning legends and can still do a job as shown against Everton. But Ricardo is quite simply the better player in almost every department.

[Jaspa]

Has a horror pass every game. Facial expression generaly makes him look not arsed enough most of the time. Scored some important goals for us though and improved the team for little while in the post Shakespeare transition period.

Hope he finds that determination he showed during his time in Seville

[mazarron fox]

14 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said:

 

The phrasing is slightly ambiguous, but I disagree: "próxima temporada" in the singular would probably mean "next season", but "próximas temporadas" in the plural is vaguer and more likely translates as "some time soon" or even just "soon"..

Could mean he's going to play for Villareal over "coming seasons", but less likely.

 

Iborra's own comments support it happening in January: https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/vicente-iborra-leicester-city-transfer-2382042

 

My take on it is ‘ the next ( following ) seasons’ he will be playing for Villarreal from when exactly isn’t clear . However I will bow to your superior knowledge of Spanish , either way if the yellow submarines don’t come up with adequate dinero he won’t be going anywhere this window.

[STUHILL]

I think he has a lot of qualities but he is just too immobile to play in a midfield two, especially in the fast paced Premier League.

 

Sad to see him go, as think he was a good addition to the dressing room, but ultimately Hamza and a rejuvenated Mendy are ahead of him now.

 

Hope this means we see a CM coming in this window, but someone who can pass and create things! 

 

Silva next out the door no doubt...

[coolhandfox]

Best thing for the club and player, needs to be playing at his age, and not sure he fit in with what Puel is trying to do.

 

The squad reshaping continues 

[Rigga]

19 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

Yep and what I am saying is that Iborra moves it even slower than some of the others around him, which is saying something!

 

I still like him as a person and as a player but I can see why he'd be allowed to go. The manager does not deliberately want us to move the ball slowly, he has said on many occasions the complete opposite. Ndidi and Mendy aren't exactly the shining lights in this department, but given Iborra is likely on decent wages at his age and with limited resale value, this is a case of getting players off the books first to allow for another player to come in or step up. To give you an example of what Puel wants from a central midifelder, look at Jean-Michael Seri at Fulham who was in his Nice team in 15/16 when they finished 4th in Ligue 1, and was linked with Barcelona.

 

Another example for us is to look at Ricardo and Simpson. Simpson is one of the league winning legends and can still do a job as shown against Everton. But Ricardo is quite simply the better player in almost every department.

Well Elneny certainly isn’t the answer..

If Puel wanted a creative CM, he would have brought one in during the summer.

We were not even linked with one Tbh..

 

Seems  happy to have grafters in there which as we know means we struggle to create clear cut chances..

[Deeg67]

18 minutes ago, STUHILL said:

I think he has a lot of qualities but he is just too immobile to play in a midfield two, especially in the fast paced Premier League.

 

Sad to see him go, as think he was a good addition to the dressing room, but ultimately Hamza and a rejuvenated Mendy are ahead of him now.

 

Hope this means we see a CM coming in this window, but someone who can pass and create things! 

 

Silva next out the door no doubt...

The irony in your last two sentences is inescapable...

[Max Power]

2 minutes ago, Rigga said:

Well Elneny certainly isn’t the answer..

If Puel wanted a creative CM, he would have brought one in during the summer.

We were not even linked with one Tbh..

 

Seems  happy to have grafters in there which as we know means we struggle to create clear cut chances..

Doubt the board would have sanctioned money for another central midfielder with all those we had already on the books including £23m Silva who was recently bought. With Iborra and probably king and silva off the books this window there will be scope to bring a more suitable midfield option in hopefully 

[Babylon]

7 minutes ago, Deeg67 said:

The irony in your last two sentences is inescapable...

Considering he's not been able to pass or create, I'm not sure where the irony is.

[ealingfox]

Thanks for the goals against Stoke and particularly Brighton which was scenes.

[Alf Bentley]

14 minutes ago, mazarron fox said:

My take on it is ‘ the next ( following ) seasons’ he will be playing for Villarreal from when exactly isn’t clear . However I will bow to your superior knowledge of Spanish , either way if the yellow submarines don’t come up with adequate dinero he won’t be going anywhere this window.

 

I wouldn't bow to my superior knowledge of anything. I might be king of the bullshitters for all you know......and I respectfully note that you're living in Spain (ex-pat or native?) 

As it happens, language and translation are two of very few things that I know much about. Pedantry, arguing and drunkenness are my only other talents. 

 

While "temporada" does often translate as "season", it can also refer to an unspecific period of time. Likewise, while "próximo/a" often translates as "next", it can also translate as "close" or "soon".

Collins Spanish-English Dictionary has:

- "en fecha próxima" = "soon" or "at an early date"

- "pasa muchas temporadas en el extranjero" = "she spends long periods abroad"

 

I did warn you my other two talents were arguing and pedantry, didn't I? I have more time to display those talents now I'm no longer drunk all the time. 

 

I wonder if LCFC might be open to a generous deal on this one, if Puel wants to thin down numbers in midfield before bringing someone else in?

Sentiment notwithstanding, I'd certainly keep Iborra ahead of King or Silva. He hasn't made quite the impact I hoped, but certainly hasn't disgraced himself and has abilities that some others lack (calm, passing sometimes, aerial ability, finds space).

If King, Silva & Iborra are all out of consideration, I'd certainly hope someone else is coming in or we'd be shifting from too many central midfielders to too few.... 

[sylofox]

Some rumours he's already in Spain having talks. 

[StriderHiryu]

31 minutes ago, Rigga said:

Well Elneny certainly isn’t the answer..

If Puel wanted a creative CM, he would have brought one in during the summer.

We were not even linked with one Tbh..

 

Seems  happy to have grafters in there which as we know means we struggle to create clear cut chances..

Well I agree that if we are replacing him for Elneny then what is the point!? He's not a bad player but I don't see why we'd send Iborra out just to bring someone like that in.