Jon Rudkin

[Jimmy]

the fact he has never given up control of the academy is a major concern he needs replacing but he seems to be bulletproof

[blueharmie]

Jon and Brendan have an onlyfans page.

[Lesta2014]

21 minutes ago, blueharmie said:

Jon and Brendan have an onlyfans page.

One of the ‘top’ subscribed pages I heard. 

[CosbehFox]

Relegation or not, the best appointment in the close season should be someone to replace him. 
 

The consistent pattern in football clubs succeeding at the moment is their ability of Director of Football or Sporting Director. 
 

He’s the failure as opposed to the board really. He’s the football acumen to advise them. You can’t help but feel that Rodgers stays in situ because it would expose Rudkin. Another manager might be more challenging of him - Pearson was at times. He was exposed in the aftermath of the title season. 

Edited 15 January 2023 by CosbehFox

[body102]

Who will look after Tops polo horses if Rudkin goes 

[Guest]

41 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Relegation or not, the best appointment in the close season should be someone to replace him. 
 

The consistent pattern in football clubs succeeding at the moment is their ability of Director of Football or Sporting Director. 
 

He’s the failure as opposed to the board really. He’s the football acumen to advise them. You can’t help but feel that Rodgers stays in situ because it would expose Rudkin. Another manager might be more challenging of him - Pearson was at times. He was exposed in the aftermath of the title season. 

Presumably it's up to him and the other underlings to report to Top on the state of the club but at the same time it's sort of in their interest to keep Rodgers in the job because he acts as a lightning rod for all the criticism, including that which should be heading their way. If Rudkin acknowledges that the manager and players he brought to the club have failed to such an extent that it's going to take either a sacking or drastic surgery to the squad to keep us in the league, realistically he would have to be next in the firing line unless Top is totally in thrall to him for whatever reason.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

The UFS banner at Swansea in 2017/18 really was ahead of the curve! 

[Dan]

Out of his depth. While I believe the squad building issue was largely at Rodgers' door, it happened on Rudkin's watch and it should've never been allowed to happen. Nor would the contract situation. Also the fact we're so pitifully bad at getting signings in. He's out of his depth. Out.

[filthyfox]

6 hours ago, body102 said:

Who will look after Tops polo horses if Rudkin goes 

Pony!

[Claudio Fannieri]

I am certainly no fanboy of Rudkin and on paper I would agree with a what a lot of posters have said, as DoF he should be held accountable for what is currently going wrong, however Rudkin has been at the club a hell of a long time and been doing this role for circa 10 years which has coincided with our most successful ever period, also 3 years ago we were being lauded for our recruitment and business model, again something that Rudkin will have been involved in. 
 

Fast forward to know and there have been a couple of major changes at the club that have in my opinion changed the complexion of the club and with it how it operates, that is the Chairmanship of Top and the appointment of Rodgers as Manager. 

I feel given the shift in power since Rodgers arrival and the clear close relationship Top has with the manager has meant decisions have been taken on how to move the club forward in terms of player retention etc and how much influence or involvement Rudkin has had in this we cannot be sure.  

 

I am sure I have read in media outlets and ITK’s on here that Rudders wanted Rodgers out and it was definitely reported by one outlet that he and Rodgers had a massive bust up after the Forest game and Rodgers had been given 3 games to save his job, then again after the Brighton and Spurs capitulations it was stated on here that it was one person and one person only who was over ruling the rest of the board and continuing to keep Rodgers in position.   
 

the latest Percy article plus the recent leak of interest in a couple of players would suggest his source is most likely Rudkin or someone very close who has his approval to leak certain info. I think it’s clear he wants Rodgers gone but is being overruled and I would suggest at present his role and involvement in the 1st team playing side has severely weakened as a result of the power Rodgers managed to hold within the club. 
 

the big question for me is how engaged is Rudkin now, if he isn’t being listened too and now feels somewhat sidelined has he become another employee just happy to go through the motions and pick up his salary 

 

it seems to me at present that the club appears to he in a mess on and off the pitch and there is a massive disconnect across all levels. For me a the blame game stops at Rodgers and Top as the rest in between clearly have a voice but not one loud enough to effect certain situations. 
 

 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

20 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I am certainly no fanboy of Rudkin and on paper I would agree with a what a lot of posters have said, as DoF he should be held accountable for what is currently going wrong, however Rudkin has been at the club a hell of a long time and been doing this role for circa 10 years which has coincided with our most successful ever period, also 3 years ago we were being lauded for our recruitment and business model, again something that Rudkin will have been involved in. 
 

Fast forward to know and there have been a couple of major changes at the club that have in my opinion changed the complexion of the club and with it how it operates, that is the Chairmanship of Top and the appointment of Rodgers as Manager. 

I feel given the shift in power since Rodgers arrival and the clear close relationship Top has with the manager has meant decisions have been taken on how to move the club forward in terms of player retention etc and how much influence or involvement Rudkin has had in this we cannot be sure.  

 

I am sure I have read in media outlets and ITK’s on here that Rudders wanted Rodgers out and it was definitely reported by one outlet that he and Rodgers had a massive bust up after the Forest game and Rodgers had been given 3 games to save his job, then again after the Brighton and Spurs capitulations it was stated on here that it was one person and one person only who was over ruling the rest of the board and continuing to keep Rodgers in position.   
 

the latest Percy article plus the recent leak of interest in a couple of players would suggest his source is most likely Rudkin or someone very close who has his approval to leak certain info. I think it’s clear he wants Rodgers gone but is being overruled and I would suggest at present his role and involvement in the 1st team playing side has severely weakened as a result of the power Rodgers managed to hold within the club. 
 

the big question for me is how engaged is Rudkin now, if he isn’t being listened too and now feels somewhat sidelined has he become another employee just happy to go through the motions and pick up his salary 

 

it seems to me at present that the club appears to he in a mess on and off the pitch and there is a massive disconnect across all levels. For me a the blame game stops at Rodgers and Top as the rest in between clearly have a voice but not one loud enough to effect certain situations. 
 

 

What’s this recent leak that you talk of? 
 
I’ve always felt Rudkin didn’t get enough credit in the good times, but understand the criticism of him as well. It’s difficult as we’re all going from hearsay really.
 

You raise an interesting point - is he now just coasting along with seemingly many others members of playing and coaching staff? From someone looking in that seems to be endemic with the culture at the club now. I also wonder as well if that stems from Top - just how interested is he now?

[CosbehFox]

Of course he’s coasting. 
 

To me as an outsider, he’s the bloke who secures the transfers and signs off on the contracts with their wages. 
 

He should be the bloke to move our scouting into new markets like others have done. Most of the PL now is looking at South America and Asia where players can be signed and paid a fraction. Teams are increasingly signing players at 19 to 21 with an eye for them to be a first team played in 12 to 18 months.
 

When Balsom left and we were considered at the top of Sports Science, we hosted events regards it and analytics. He should have been the one to encourage it’s continuation. After all we have a new training ground what’s built for this. 
 

That’s before we get to the youth system. 
 

He’s not innovative. He’s not open to ideas. He’s just a company man coasting along. You have to move with the times as the environment changes and we haven’t 

Edited 16 January 2023 by CosbehFox

[kenny]

13 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

Relegation or not, the best appointment in the close season should be someone to replace him. 
 

The consistent pattern in football clubs succeeding at the moment is their ability of Director of Football or Sporting Director. 
 

He’s the failure as opposed to the board really. He’s the football acumen to advise them. You can’t help but feel that Rodgers stays in situ because it would expose Rudkin. Another manager might be more challenging of him - Pearson was at times. He was exposed in the aftermath of the title season. 

I'd go out all and get Pearson to replace him.

 

Pearson bought in the marginal gains that our success was built upon and from the outside it appears as though his work is being slowly eroded. Ranieri started by getting rid of the sports psychologists and Rodgers appears to have too much influence over our scouting methods. We used to be ahead on everything and it feels like we have drifted back into being a typical midtable club thats behind the times compared to our competitors.

 

There is no doubt we haven't worked out how to use Seagrave yet either. It hasn't helped with our injuries, mentality or the quality of our signings. When it was built, the telling issue was BR down-playing our status as if we were still training in a tent with inflatable paddling pools for ice baths. At the point it was built, the club needed to start thinking like it was 'elite', which may mean that tough decisions needed to be made of playing and more importantly non-playing staff. 

 

The club feels like a business that doesn't know its identity and has no discernible business plan. There is a lack of leadership evident and it feels like we need a re-set.

[somebum]

There's a Rudkin in every workplace. Bloated, inept bloodsucker who does fcuk all but gets paid a hell of a lot for doing it

[lanefox]

No ands ifs or buts if he fails to complete a transfer for RW he needs to be sacked 

[Dames]

For me its not just the transfer side of things but its the academy side of things too we've had a top notch category academy for a good few years now and there just isn't that conveyor belt of talent. We get the odd player every 2-3 years but thats about it. 

 

With the category and the facilities we have we should be producing a constant stream of Championship level players to help bring in income along with a good few that are good enough to be in and around the first team and its just not happened.  

[elvisfmcfly]

Oh go on then, Rudkin and Rodgers send farts in voice messages to each other on WhatsApp. 

[UHDrive]

The clubs hierarchy are acting like a school setup for these issues in relation to these roles:

 

Teacher - Brendan Rodgers 

 

Head teacher - John Rudkin 

 

Governors - Top.

 

The Teacher and Head teacher are squabbling like children. Unlike the school lcfc is a private business, so the autonomy of decisions rests with the board. 

 

Like any sensibly run business there are profit and structural issues to manage. Finances are primary, structure is secondary (but structure is as important to increase business revenues). 

 

It (seems) obvious that Top is taking a personal rather than business approach to Rodgers and Rudkin because most business owners focus on profits, and If the internal structure of DoF and the manager is inhibiting the football clubs profits then what is the owner doing. 

 

Rudkin imo is so far embedded in the business that no matter what Tops preferences of him and Rodgers are, he simply doesn't care. Same with Rodgers about Rudkin. 

 

 

[deep blue]

On 15/01/2023 at 20:39, CosbehFox said:

Relegation or not, the best appointment in the close season should be someone to replace him. 
 

The consistent pattern in football clubs succeeding at the moment is their ability of Director of Football or Sporting Director. 
 

He’s the failure as opposed to the board really. He’s the football acumen to advise them. You can’t help but feel that Rodgers stays in situ because it would expose Rudkin. Another manager might be more challenging of him - Pearson was at times. He was exposed in the aftermath of the title season. 

I think Pearson would be a brilliant Director of Football for us.

[CosbehFox]

6 minutes ago, deep blue said:

I think Pearson would be a brilliant Director of Football for us.

On paper yes but is Pearson friendly, for example with agents? You need someone with the intel to pay rates. You need someone who is aware of work permit rules and how to target particular leagues etc. 

 

Pearson and Walsh's skill was being analytical of scouting etc ( they fancied Slimani but no way would they pay more than £10mil).

 

Pearson managed the club in a very traditional sense because he cared about wage bill and how that might impact players/transfer sums going forward. That model is dying. Rodgers wanted pseudo-control of that with his chum Congerton but now he doesn't want the responsibility. 

Edited 26 January 2023 by CosbehFox

[CosbehFox]

Just to say I mentioned Edu before and his really good work at Arsenal. Their signings this January are really clever - Trossard will be sub appearances and Kiwior will barely get a kick this season. However, they are planning for the CL next season and the additional workload on the squad - signing players where their stock is high. 

 

A good TD/DoF is concentrating on the next six months before the other one is finished - Macia probably did this better than anyone at LCFC. 

[Chrysalis]

On 16/01/2023 at 06:34, Claudio Fannieri said:

I am certainly no fanboy of Rudkin and on paper I would agree with a what a lot of posters have said, as DoF he should be held accountable for what is currently going wrong, however Rudkin has been at the club a hell of a long time and been doing this role for circa 10 years which has coincided with our most successful ever period, also 3 years ago we were being lauded for our recruitment and business model, again something that Rudkin will have been involved in. 
 

Fast forward to know and there have been a couple of major changes at the club that have in my opinion changed the complexion of the club and with it how it operates, that is the Chairmanship of Top and the appointment of Rodgers as Manager. 

I feel given the shift in power since Rodgers arrival and the clear close relationship Top has with the manager has meant decisions have been taken on how to move the club forward in terms of player retention etc and how much influence or involvement Rudkin has had in this we cannot be sure.  

 

I am sure I have read in media outlets and ITK’s on here that Rudders wanted Rodgers out and it was definitely reported by one outlet that he and Rodgers had a massive bust up after the Forest game and Rodgers had been given 3 games to save his job, then again after the Brighton and Spurs capitulations it was stated on here that it was one person and one person only who was over ruling the rest of the board and continuing to keep Rodgers in position.   
 

the latest Percy article plus the recent leak of interest in a couple of players would suggest his source is most likely Rudkin or someone very close who has his approval to leak certain info. I think it’s clear he wants Rodgers gone but is being overruled and I would suggest at present his role and involvement in the 1st team playing side has severely weakened as a result of the power Rodgers managed to hold within the club. 
 

the big question for me is how engaged is Rudkin now, if he isn’t being listened too and now feels somewhat sidelined has he become another employee just happy to go through the motions and pick up his salary 

 

it seems to me at present that the club appears to he in a mess on and off the pitch and there is a massive disconnect across all levels. For me a the blame game stops at Rodgers and Top as the rest in between clearly have a voice but not one loud enough to effect certain situations. 
 

 

Well written, the signings of the saints defenders is complete at odds of our strategy under rudkin, wouldnt surprise me if if top and rodgers running the ship between them, the power hungry manager manipulating the inexperienced new chairman.

[SafewayFox]

Rudkin on face value is under qualified for his responsibilities at the club.

 

As others said, the wage issue lies on his door but the complete misuse of Seagrave is a sackable offence alone.

 

Let me look on FM who is a good DoF 😉

 

All joking aside, the refresh with Rodgers going SHOULD include Rudkin too.

[volpeazzurro]

On 15/01/2023 at 21:05, body102 said:

Who will look after Tops polo horses if Rudkin goes 

I think it was Brendan that stole their teeth though which made Top angry and Rudkin got the blame. Every time Brendan smiles at Top he's essentially taking the piss and Top doesn't even see it!

[HankMarvin]

On 15/01/2023 at 20:07, blueharmie said:

Jon and Brendan have an onlyfans page.

After all they are known for their massive hooters