Nick Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 I really think that we don't want to sell and will only do so for a ridiculous offer... but what constitutes that? £85, £90, £100 million? If we hold on to him for another year will he go for £120 million? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPinCarolina Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 16 minutes ago, RumbleFox said: It's OK, we don't need to spend any of the Maguire money on a new defender, we already have an upgrade... I’m a believer in Big Dan! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 3 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said: Maybe Everton are the 3rd club then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 Just now, Swan Lesta said: I really think that we don't want to sell and will only do so for a ridiculous offer... but what constitutes that? £85, £90, £100 million? If we hold on to him for another year will he go for £120 million? Or have a poor season and be worth 45m or the top clubs will have new targets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 Just now, Swan Lesta said: I really think that we don't want to sell and will only do so for a ridiculous offer... but what constitutes that? £85, £90, £100 million? If we hold on to him for another year will he go for £120 million? I don't see how. Not a season like his last one anyway. I reckon £80m is the ceiling of his value 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey123 Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 If they’ve started at 70 can imagine they’re gona come back with more, be sad to see harry go, massive dent in the side that will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheppyFox Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 90m for me allows us to create an overall stronger squad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 Just now, foxfanazer said: I don't see how. Not a season like his last one anyway. I reckon £80m is the ceiling of his value His stats don't suggest his season was that poor - Manchester clubs are not in a bidding war because they don't know football players - with such a length left on his contract I really don't see why he won't be worth £100 million plus next year... especially if LCFC have a blinding season which I feel we might if we pick up the right few players and hold on to our best assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey123 Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 4 minutes ago, UPinCarolina said: I’m a believer in Big Dan! If big dan had Maguires confidence on the ball he’d be a beast, unfortunately he’s more comparable to Danny Simpson in that department Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 Just now, Swan Lesta said: His stats don't suggest his season was that poor - Manchester clubs are not in a bidding war because they don't know football players - with such a length left on his contract I really don't see why he won't be worth £100 million plus next year... especially if LCFC have a blinding season which I feel we might if we pick up the right few players and hold on to our best assets. And this time next summer England will Be about to win the euros with big H at CB ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 Just now, Swan Lesta said: His stats don't suggest his season was that poor - Manchester clubs are not in a bidding war because they don't know football players - with such a length left on his contract I really don't see why he won't be worth £100 million plus next year... especially if LCFC have a blinding season which I feel we might if we pick up the right few players and hold on to our best assets. They weren't £80m good either. He could stay and have a blinder but it's certainly far from a guarantee. I still think this is his peak value. The fee is more dictated by United's desperation than Harry's ability imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtmcfly Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 53 minutes ago, st albans fox said: It wouldn’t be 90m If fee is 90m, we would have to pay 16m to hull and probably a loyalty bonus of 5m to maguire so thats 70m to re invest there would be other costs ..... it’s never as good when you try and spend it as when you receive it cos it begins to shrink ... Struggling to get 16 million from 90 million, of which I think 73 would be profit. I thought the sell-on was 15%. Whatever it is, as I keep saying (and still waiting for someone to tell me otherwise) whatever it is it's surely on the profit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannythefox Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 80m he’ll be gone. Shame but he is replaceable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue ROI Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 Now look what you've done Vicente Iborra!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 The manc journos seem to think that Harry (well his agent) has told the club he expects a deal to be done (rather than saying he is quite happy to stay) thats a a good way of not losing his loyalty bonus but still getting his move ! this is info that will have come from yanited or maguire ‘agent’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oadby.fox Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 (edited) Ideally I would like to see us try and keep a decent side together and build something over the next season but like others have been saying this Summer, if we are to cash in on a player then I'd rather it be Maguire. The minimum I would consider is £75m but I would be happy with £80m - if United have made a bid of £70m then I don't think it'd be impossible to get them to up their bid, especially seeing how desperate and bad at doing business they have become. The biggest downside to this deal which no one has mentioned yet is that we would in fact be selling to and strengthening a league rival. Anyone who thinks that United will be in and around the top 2 competing for the title next season is seriously deluded - they will be lucky to scrape fourth and if things go badly, the top 6 might even be beyond reach. As such, I actually see them as a direct rivals for 6th-8th next season and so wouldn't really want to strengthen them for that reason. Another point is that I don't really see why Maguire would fancy the move himself (apart from the wage increase), United look like a spent force and the management of the club borderlines on the farcical. I know that they are a big footballing brand and have a huge fanbase/stadium etc. but Maguire seems like a sensible lad and I'd think he'd only want to go if it was the right opportunity - the reality is that United are not going to win any major competitions within the next couple of years and he might do well to stay another season here before moving onto a club that will actually compete at the top level for a lower price. I don't think Man City will be tempted to enter the bidding above £70m because they know he isn't worth that and they seem to buy players for around £50m-60m. Will truly miss him if he does go but he can be replaced and cash would help us bring in fresh faces in other positions. Edited 2 July 2019 by oadby.fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, turtmcfly said: Struggling to get 16 million from 90 million, of which I think 73 would be profit. I thought the sell-on was 15%. Whatever it is, as I keep saying (and still waiting for someone to tell me otherwise) whatever it is it's surely on the profit? I thought the fee was 12m i suspect the profit on selling him would have been set above that initial 12m rather than what we had paid at the time of sale but you’re still right - 15% of 78 is just short of 12m which takes the nett profit to 73m if a loyalty of 5m assumed Edited 2 July 2019 by st albans fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 8 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said: His stats don't suggest his season was that poor - Manchester clubs are not in a bidding war because they don't know football players - with such a length left on his contract I really don't see why he won't be worth £100 million plus next year... especially if LCFC have a blinding season which I feel we might if we pick up the right few players and hold on to our best assets. Nobody will pay £100m for him, you'll get to the point where teams just start taking risks on lesser know players. Man U, IMO are the only ones who are going to make the sort of bids people want on here because they are in full on panic mode. I think Man City are a bit too wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 Just now, Babylon said: Nobody will pay £100m for him, you'll get to the point where teams just start taking risks on lesser know players. Man U, IMO are the only ones who are going to make the sort of bids people want on here because they are in full on panic mode. I think Man City are a bit too wise. Agree that Man Utd are desperate, but @Abrasive fox mentioned there is a third club involved, but what sort of finances back up the third team, I have no idea who that could be and what sort of fees this third club could produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 Just now, Babylon said: Nobody will pay £100m for him, you'll get to the point where teams just start taking risks on lesser know players. Man U, IMO are the only ones who are going to make the sort of bids people want on here because they are in full on panic mode. I think Man City are a bit too wise. We see the money and player prices rise seemingly by £20 odd million each year for top end proven talent... two years ago you might have told me I was crazy if I'd have said that Harry Maguire would be going for a fee of £80 million quid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 Just now, Swan Lesta said: We see the money and player prices rise seemingly by £20 odd million each year for top end proven talent... two years ago you might have told me I was crazy if I'd have said that Harry Maguire would be going for a fee of £80 million quid! I thi k it's crazy now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 2 hours ago, Abrasive fox said: Looks like we're going to get a shit load of money for him. It will be at least 90. The manchester clubs not the only ones involved. Wow... Wonder who else is bidding? Real? Juventus? Barca? PSG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 (edited) Just now, Swan Lesta said: Wow... Wonder who else is bidding? Real? Juventus? Barca? PSG? West Ham? Edited 2 July 2019 by Dahnsouff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fightforever Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 Just now, Swan Lesta said: Wow... Wonder who else is bidding? Real? Juventus? Barca? PSG? Let it be psg the word budget doesn't apply to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 2 July 2019 Share Posted 2 July 2019 1 minute ago, Swan Lesta said: Wow... Wonder who else is bidding? Real? Juventus? Barca? PSG? Godin replacement at Atletico Madrid? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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