AKCJ Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 Just now, MGLCFC said: I'd argue take Evans out of our back 4 and that would be of more significance in terms of weakening the defence. I am not in disagreement that Maguire would be a big loss, but our defence performs worse when Evans is not in it. Like I said in an earlier post, £80 million to £90 million can buy 2 or 3 really good players, which in essence may strengthen the team overall if the recruitment is spot on. Our defence performs less without Evans because when we didn’t play Evans we played Wes Morgan. That is the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc_forever Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 35 minutes ago, StanSP said: Oi @LinekersApples where you at? Hope you've not gone to sleep. Rude if so. LinekersApples doesn't have a clue, almost as bad as Sean from Enderby. Ashley, The MightyFin and AbrasiveFox are the only sources who have said something well in advance of a development/got the story ahead of a journalist. Hope Maguire stays - thought at the start of the Summer he'd definitely be going but looks like it's a lot more in the balance now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 2 minutes ago, VIKTOR-LE5 said: He isn't all that , but why should that stop us rinsing them silly. We should rinse them silly because he is all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 7 minutes ago, AKCJ said: Yeah but it’s like the same for us. Take Maguire out of our back four and it’s massively weakened. Soyuncu and Benkovic are nowhere near Maguire’s level. Can’t believe the revisionism here. Many on here demanding no less than 80m while in the same post saying he isn’t all that. Make your minds up lads. Would tend to agree with this. The issue is not the loss of defensive ability, its the other side of Harry's game that would be a huge loss. His ability to move the ball forward from defence, in essence giving us an extra midfielder as he strides forward. On the flip side, I do agree that Evans is defensively as capable as Harry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tielemans63 Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, AKCJ said: Yeah but it’s like the same for us. Take Maguire out of our back four and it’s massively weakened. Soyuncu and Benkovic are nowhere near Maguire’s level. Can’t believe the revisionism here. Many on here demanding no less than 80m while in the same post saying he isn’t all that. Make your minds up lads. I agree, which is why I've wanted him to stay from the start. Couldn't care less about the £80m / £90m. The fact is that Harry is better than Soyuncu and Benko (I rate both by the way) and far better than Dunk or Tarkowski. I agree with others that Harry isn't our best player but he is among our most important and we're not going to replace him with someone who is as good in his position - no way. CBs who can bring the ball out as effectively are few and far between. Edited 30 July 2019 by Paddy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 1 minute ago, lcfc_forever said: LinekersApples doesn't have a clue, almost as bad as Sean from Enderby. Ashley, The MightyFin and AbrasiveFox are the only sources who have said something well in advance of a development/got the story ahead of a journalist. Hope Maguire stays - thought at the start of the Summer he'd definitely be going but looks like it's a lot more in the balance now. They've all got a lot of stuff wrong recently. There are no prolific ITK's any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsintskaro Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 yah where are those ITK's when you need them most? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGLCFC Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 2 minutes ago, AKCJ said: Our defence performs less without Evans because when we didn’t play Evans we played Wes Morgan. That is the difference. But even Evans and Morgan looked well organised. Evans is the best defender in the Club by a long way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 Excellent, let's bash people for sharing stuff that may or may not happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubbins Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 Just now, AKCJ said: Yeah but it’s like the same for us. Take Maguire out of our back four and it’s massively weakened. Soyuncu and Benkovic are nowhere near Maguire’s level. Can’t believe the revisionism here. Many on here demanding no less than 80m while in the same post saying he isn’t all that. Make your minds up lads. It wasn't massively weakened when he missed games last season. You are massively overating how good Maguire is. Decent PL level CB, excellent bringing the ball out of defence but that's it. He's not an elite level defender at all. And Ive said this before in this thread many many pages back but he will not particularly improve Man Utds defence. Their problem is their style of play and lack of organisation and leadership at the back. The defenders they have whilst not great are not inept L2 players. Maguire doesn't lead and doesnt organise. You can tell that by the way Morgan looks crap next to him but solid next to Evans. I'd have sold him quite happily for 70m earlier in the window but it's late in the day now and getting a solid replacement would be difficult. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LinekersApples Posted 30 July 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 30 July 2019 40 minutes ago, StanSP said: Oi @LinekersApples where you at? Hope you've not gone to sleep. Rude if so. Morning. Sorry, I apparently don’t have a clue. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapero82 Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 5 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said: LinekersApples doesn't have a clue, almost as bad as Sean from Enderby. Ashley, The MightyFin and AbrasiveFox are the only sources who have said something well in advance of a development/got the story ahead of a journalist. Hope Maguire stays - thought at the start of the Summer he'd definitely be going but looks like it's a lot more in the balance now. The mighty fin and abrasivefox are not that reliable? Many times they have got something wrong no ITK will get things right as things can change quickly! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 Just now, HighPeakFox said: Excellent, let's bash people for sharing stuff that may or may not happen. I don’t think sharing stuff that may not happen is such a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnewty Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 Wonder if sky will be as quick with the BREAKING NEWS headline if Harry does train today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGLCFC Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 Just now, LinekersApples said: Morning. Sorry, I apparently don’t have a clue. The majority think otherwise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIKTOR-LE5 Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 Tbf the Harry love in, which i fell for was before he came our back 4 couldn't pass the ball to another player in a blue shirt unless we played in our away strips, but that was down to coaching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 Just now, yorkie1999 said: I don’t think sharing stuff that may not happen is such a good thing. But they may have info that was correct at the time, but did not come to pass. No point in getting personal with people who have the best of intentions... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 5 minutes ago, MGLCFC said: But even Evans and Morgan looked well organised. Evans is the best defender in the Club by a long way. No they didn’t and no he isn’t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Next Year Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 KEEP CALM every thing so far as been FAKE NEWS, I for one don’t believe and won’t believe any of this until I see Harry or a member of the club ( and I don’t mean the tea lady ) coming out and saying to the the fans of our grate club that he as gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 If I was in the know the last thing I’d be doing is posting it on a football forum, I’d be down the bookies earning some dollar from it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 4 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: I don’t think sharing stuff that may not happen is such a good thing. Then maybe football fans' forums aren't really your thing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 5 minutes ago, dnewty said: Wonder if sky will be as quick with the BREAKING NEWS headline if Harry does train today. They only got the story yesterday because they were there as part of the open day. If he doesn't train today, the club may just keep quiet about it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGLCFC Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 Just now, AKCJ said: No they didn’t and no he isn’t. So who is a better defender in your opinion. By the way I'm talking about their ability to defend and organise a defence.I have to disagree with you regarding Morgan and Evans. Morgan and Maguire were far more suspect than Evans with either of the other two. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinekersApples Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 There’s a few of these knocking around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 30 July 2019 Share Posted 30 July 2019 1 minute ago, LinekersApples said: There’s a few of these knocking around. Predictably I guess. On more interesting topics, has there been any movement on RW or AM that we may or may not be looking for? (See, some of us still love you ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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