Vindaloo FOX Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 18 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said: Rodgers signs a lot of Spanish players as well. I think he's very much bought into the Spanish way of playing. Speaks Spanish also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 I get the mixed reaction to Torres. A lot of fans want us to make a Man City or Liverpool type-signing - somebody like Ziyech or Malcolm. Torres would be more of an Ajax signing. The kid is super talented and has a chance to blossom into one of the better wingers in the PL (and he is a true winger), but he may not get there for a couple of seasons. And with a seemingly rare opportunity for a top 6 (or even top 4) finish out there this season, fans want a signing who's ready to be a game-changer now, not a guy who might grow into one. Realistically, Torres would be a move that's consistent with the type of approach we're going to need to take going forward. We have a great young squad with a lot of ambition, but we're not a "big club". Maybe being realistic about that isn't a bad thing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 (edited) Fits with our long term transfer strategy if not break the top six next year strategy. Ferran, Gray, Albrighton, Barnes and Perez. A fair few options there. I can imagine Gray requestimg a transfer. He'd be a good buy if someone can replicate his u21 England performances. Edited 15 July 2019 by Foxxed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 3 hours ago, Collymore said: Wait... What? Sorry, can you explain what this post means? Why didn't you want to post because it was "a lad from Valencia"? Loads of people repping you so people understand it but casting eyes on this post for the first time I'm utterly confused! So the text I got was "a lad from Valencia" now without saying any more the said person believes we have someone from them ready to sign like the Ayoze deal. Now unless weve gone under the radar again and it's someone else I believe it most likely to be Torres however he didnt have a name for me when he text. Hence me not wanting to post until we could get it 100% confirmed. Let's just see if anything comes of it over the next few days. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehrez Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 Scored for Spain u19s yesterday, isn’t him being in the tournament going to make this difficult in terms of doing a medical/signing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 People need to relax. We’ve had a bit of info from what has been a reliable source. Take it for what it is. If it happens fair play, if not so be it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NasPb Posted 15 July 2019 Author Share Posted 15 July 2019 He's doing what's gray has done in less minutes while being 3 years younger. You can't complain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 Much more technical than Gray. Outstanding positional sense as well. Very different sort of player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Mehrez said: Scored for Spain u19s yesterday, isn’t him being in the tournament going to make this difficult in terms of doing a medical/signing? Not really - a deal can be agreed subject to the medical which happens when the tournament is finished. Edited 15 July 2019 by st albans fox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindaloo FOX Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 8 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Not really - deal is agreed subject to the medical which happens when the tournament is finished. You saying we have agreed a price already? over the moon if this happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Vindaloo FOX said: You saying we have agreed a price already? over the moon if this happens. Absolutely not saying anything ! Just answering mehrez’s query ........ I changed my wording as was poorly written ! Edited 15 July 2019 by st albans fox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 I’d like Torres here please. Sign him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 Isn't he right footed? I'd have thought any winger coming in would be a left footed right winger? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywood_6 Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 Looks a bit lightweight for the PL, reminds me of Kaputska when I look at him. His numbers aren't great either for a top 4 side in La Liga either. We need someone who's going to give us more of an ouput than Gray/Barnes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 We get this kid and it’s money in the bank, depending on actual cost. I’d have thought £40-£50 million. Remember when hen people were calling Salah a poor mans Pedro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 3 hours ago, Ashley said: So the text I got was "a lad from Valencia" now without saying any more the said person believes we have someone from them ready to sign like the Ayoze deal. Now unless weve gone under the radar again and it's someone else I believe it most likely to be Torres however he didnt have a name for me when he text. Hence me not wanting to post until we could get it 100% confirmed. Let's just see if anything comes of it over the next few days. The text could also just mean somebody who was BORN in Valencia but is playing for someone else... Start Googling people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 4 hours ago, Deeg67 said: I get the mixed reaction to Torres. A lot of fans want us to make a Man City or Liverpool type-signing - somebody like Ziyech or Malcolm. Torres would be more of an Ajax signing. The kid is super talented and has a chance to blossom into one of the better wingers in the PL (and he is a true winger), but he may not get there for a couple of seasons. And with a seemingly rare opportunity for a top 6 (or even top 4) finish out there this season, fans want a signing who's ready to be a game-changer now, not a guy who might grow into one. Realistically, Torres would be a move that's consistent with the type of approach we're going to need to take going forward. We have a great young squad with a lot of ambition, but we're not a "big club". Maybe being realistic about that isn't a bad thing. I am not a fan,who is chasing the now and big game changer....I want us still to be prudent and take the slowly slowly approach,it's served us well in the last couple of season's. Even now some fans have underated or simply ignored the Task that was needed under Puels Tenure. All modern buys and re-assesment of the clubs situation was under his cap. For that alone,we shouldn't just push his Work under the table.If some think he brought some dollies ..EVERY club have quite a few that go awry..'most' of ours were well before Puel took over. Plus he put a break on big wasted buys,by reusing and rekindling the player Resources...before spending OTT monies...Amartey(got injured,) Mendy,Wes Morgan, Simpson, occasionally Fuchs... Too many on here squeezing their butts for a top 6,firstly IMO we should be consolidating,qualifying our top 8 positioning for the PL future,and get the team performing ,also with a better entertainment value ..The league position will then sort itself out,if BRodgers gives us a few seasons commitment..I am getting older & shorter on time,but I still would prefer we show our patience and take our time,than falling off the pace for the sake of 1-2 only potential top 6 seasons .WBA & Stoke,A.Villa are prime examples of not first trying to consolidate PL status...Let's aim for a 10yr - indefinite period of not continuing to be a yo-yo club..Then we just might see our ambitions automatically start to be realised....or maybe not!!! But a W.ham type scenario is not what I want!! Thrown money out & still not forced themselves into any top 8 bracket,let alone top 5-6...!! Don't underestimate the challenge of jumping that chasm of making us a regular top 6-4 club ...Even a below AVG Manutd & Arsenal,have still enough quality of squad and clout to keep the likes of Watford,Wolves,and ourselves at Bay!! There is no unlocked backdoor way,into that ( for us) top 6 positions... Feelings,nor dreams don't get it done!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 30 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: The text could also just mean somebody who was BORN in Valencia but is playing for someone else... Start Googling people. Lol. No. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: Isn't he right footed? I'd have thought any winger coming in would be a left footed right winger? I presume it's because Perez stood out on the right for Newcastle so that's where he'll be playing? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will1981 Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 43 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: The text could also just mean somebody who was BORN in Valencia but is playing for someone else... Start Googling people. Maybe we are signing Enner Valencia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 33 minutes ago, Babylon said: I presume it's because Perez stood out on the right for Newcastle so that's where he'll be playing? Hmmmm would still rather a left footer, even if they then mix it up and play on either sides. It gives us more flexibility, Barnes started to play a bit more on the right towards the end of the season as well. I suppose it doesn't matter too much but it's hard to get past what Mahrez used to do for us and not be desperate for another mercurial left footed right winger (Ghezzal…………….) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 Seems an odd one if it is Torres after the comments made by BR about the winger he wants due to the playing style of our current bunch. Torres is one who will hog the touch line not come inside. My personal opinion is Torres is a very exciting player to have, however he reminds me more of a Albrighton replacement rather than what we thought we was looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 14 minutes ago, Bluearmyfox28 said: Seems an odd one if it is Torres after the comments made by BR about the winger he wants due to the playing style of our current bunch. Torres is one who will hog the touch line not come inside. My personal opinion is Torres is a very exciting player to have, however he reminds me more of a Albrighton replacement rather than what we thought we was looking for. Torres is young enough that he can largely be taught to do whatever they want. If they think he has the fight fundamentals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 30 minutes ago, Bluearmyfox28 said: Seems an odd one if it is Torres after the comments made by BR about the winger he wants due to the playing style of our current bunch. Torres is one who will hog the touch line not come inside. My personal opinion is Torres is a very exciting player to have, however he reminds me more of a Albrighton replacement rather than what we thought we was looking for. LOL, no. Love Albrighton but Torres is far more athletic and plays with much more flair. It's worth noting that Jesus Navas has done pretty well for himself as a right-footed right winger in the Spanish system - a club legend and 38 caps for the national team. Torres is an outside forward but he can cut inside when he wants, and he's pretty strong on his left foot too. The player he claims to emulate is David Villa, who's made his living playing centrally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 15 July 2019 Share Posted 15 July 2019 28 minutes ago, Finnegan said: Torres is young enough that he can largely be taught to do whatever they want. If they think he has the fight fundamentals. Can’t argue with that I suppose, I just thought with the message that’s coming from the club about going for it this year we would of signed someone who was already capable of playing the way BR wants from that specific player. 11 minutes ago, Deeg67 said: LOL, no. Love Albrighton but Torres is far more athletic and plays with much more flair. It's worth noting that Jesus Navas has done pretty well for himself as a right-footed right winger in the Spanish system - a club legend and 38 caps for the national team. Torres is an outside forward but he can cut inside when he wants, and he's pretty strong on his left foot too. The player he claims to emulate is David Villa, who's made his living playing centrally. I agree with you Torres is far more athletic & does have much more flair, my point was with regards to the type of winger Torres is, he likes to hit the byline & get the cross in early. Hence the suggestion of being more a Albrighton type winger than say Mahrez. From what I’ve seen of Torres I’ve rarely seen him come inside, if he can then great. Don’t get me wrong if we get Torres I think we’ve got one hell of a gem on our hands, however it’s just came as a surprise to me as he doesn’t seem to be an automatic match to the type of winger BR stated he was after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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