Tommy G Posted 16 July 2019 Posted 16 July 2019 47 minutes ago, Ashley said: Is it a over reaction for having to fire up your own Hewlett Packard printer for having to print at home? Nah I didnt think so. Is it an over reaction for paying am extra £1 for someone doing their own job? Nah I didnt think so. Why increase it? Why even more for non-members? Just because the club have done wonderful things it doesnt mean other things cant be questioned. Question it yes but the reaction it’s got outweighs the issue tbh. They have tried to reward the loyal (for a better word) fan base by not putting up season ticket prices for 5/6 years. Perhaps they should of put them up in line with inflation? If they had had put season tickets up £100 this year then yeh, ultimately it’s the clubs decision and a few fans having a hissy over it, it’s boring
Analysethis Posted 16 July 2019 Posted 16 July 2019 Edited as post went here instead of Scunthorpe thread LOL Cheers MGLCFC for the other two!
leicesterseddon Posted 22 July 2019 Posted 22 July 2019 On 16/07/2019 at 17:48, Corky said: Does anyone actually ask for the free water, beer, donuts etc? I realise they are good gestures but if we didn't have them I doubt people would be that bothered. No one asks for them. And they are only 'free' to fans who have bought a match ticket - the club still has to pay for them. Much like it pays someone to print the clappers which as far as I'm aware no one asked for either. I've been attending a large majority of home & away fixtures for years and I've never wanted/eaten/kept any of the free stuff they've put on, which tends to be just a load of useless tat or low-grade food/beer I don't really want anyway. Free away travel or simply reducing the price of match tickets would help a greater number of fans, but evidently they see some sort of PR value in the freebies. And reading some of the people on here, it's obviously working!
Footballwipe Posted 22 July 2019 Posted 22 July 2019 On 15/07/2019 at 14:01, Heskey2011 said: Mate i went to Borneo last year half way up a mountain saw one of the locals in a vardy shirt... Watched an attenborough the oher night, little kid running round the serengeti with a city bobble hat on, you remember when we won the league yeah, quite a few fans jumped on board...therefore we're known "literally" the world over now...because of that, and that's thanks to our owners, no one else, why am i having to explain this to you? Thanks for giving so much credit to the incredible squads and backroom staff who helped make what happened happen. "No one else," eh. So wonderfully disrespectful to the players and team who did all the hard work in achieving what we did. Why am I having to explain this to you? On 14/07/2019 at 03:55, Stadt said: I’m pissed up right now but it honestly feels a bit Orwellian the extent that people defend the club. Even if this scheme earned the club £1m (likely 10x the actual amount) over the course of the season is it worth it to fleece the fanbase? Season tickets have been frozen - but if you want to suggest you care about the fans you don’t charge them for firing up the Hewlett Packard at home. Football is more of a business than it’s ever been but it football still remains somewhat of a social institution. There’s not the same obligation to generate profits for shareholders as a run of the mill business so it baffles me that some sections of support are so defensive over the club trying to eke out an extra 0.1% in revenue. In a sporting world of exorbitant costs, the value isn’t in ripping off supporters it’s in letting go a third choice keeper or selling a seventh choice winger. The reality is that club can absorb the cost. For non members already trying to get into an expensive closed shop an extra £50 season might not be so easy to be frivolous about. In the first place this issue irritated me but it wasn’t major but seeing a fair few willingly accept it has actually wound me up a bit. It reeks of I’m alright Jack behaviour. If we did this 8 years ago the fan base would be more upset but success reduces a lot of morale fibre. This is the key post in the whole debate for me. This thread has shades, huge shades, of the thread about the declaration towards the Thai King before Chelsea back in May. The hounding of anyone who questions it, the complete overreaction that "OH MAKE EVERYTHING FREE" that people scoff. It's a genuine concern. The seeming need to defend every decision that's made just because "the owners" have done so much over the last 10 years, and is almost cult-like in its style.
Guest MattP Posted 22 July 2019 Posted 22 July 2019 Bizarre decision really, raises next to nothing in revenue in terms of overall income and comes across as robbing the fans. Agree with the people commenting on how sycophantic some of our fans are as well - you get the feeling if they wanted to shove the clappers in our anus on entry to the ground some would happily drop their trousers and bend over rather than dare to ask if it was really necessary.
fuchsntf Posted 22 July 2019 Posted 22 July 2019 If these are opinions...shove ' all down the twaddle-shute... Only an opinion mind!!
Dan Posted 22 July 2019 Posted 22 July 2019 Never fails to amaze me when something like this comes up how much some people ignore all logic because it's LCFC. They'd defend literally anything.
HighPeakFox Posted 22 July 2019 Posted 22 July 2019 1 hour ago, Dan LCFC said: Never fails to amaze me when something like this comes up how much some people ignore all logic because it's LCFC. They'd defend literally anything. And now we have cults/nationalism/hatred explained - just substitute different words for 'LCFC'.
Jack1993 Posted 22 July 2019 Posted 22 July 2019 I wish I was brave enough to stick it to the man like some of you guys
VIKTOR-LE5 Posted 22 July 2019 Posted 22 July 2019 Weren't UFS set up to improve the atmosphere, apart from the occasional tifo, the atmosphere is still shit and sitting in a corner where Tv camera cant see em doesn't help. Maybe they should stick to improving the atmosphere.
Heskey2011 Posted 23 July 2019 Posted 23 July 2019 17 hours ago, Footballwipe said: Thanks for giving so much credit to the incredible squads and backroom staff who helped make what happened happen. "No one else," eh. So wonderfully disrespectful to the players and team who did all the hard work in achieving what we did. Why am I having to explain this to you? This is the key post in the whole debate for me. This thread has shades, huge shades, of the thread about the declaration towards the Thai King before Chelsea back in May. The hounding of anyone who questions it, the complete overreaction that "OH MAKE EVERYTHING FREE" that people scoff. It's a genuine concern. The seeming need to defend every decision that's made just because "the owners" have done so much over the last 10 years, and is almost cult-like in its style. It's the environment we inhabit, all of us, we live a polarized world, (I blame brexit or lack of Brexit) no wonder it spills over into FT. For the record though, i am well up a Leicester cult.
Mike Oxlong Posted 23 July 2019 Posted 23 July 2019 17 hours ago, MattP said: Bizarre decision really, raises next to nothing in revenue in terms of overall income and comes across as robbing the fans. Agree with the people commenting on how sycophantic some of our fans are as well - you get the feeling if they wanted to shove the clappers in our anus on entry to the ground some would happily drop their trousers and bend over rather than dare to ask if it was really necessary. Tests have shown that they work better when held in the hand
Ted Maul Posted 23 July 2019 Posted 23 July 2019 11 hours ago, VIKTOR-LE5 said: Weren't UFS set up to improve the atmosphere, apart from the occasional tifo, the atmosphere is still shit and sitting in a corner where Tv camera cant see em doesn't help. Maybe they should stick to improving the atmosphere. Why should they stick to improving the atmosphere? For all they get right, there are plenty of issues that the club need questioning on and there don't seem to be many others willing to do it. I'm glad there's a fan group willing to push back a bit. It's not their fault nobody else can be arsed to sing these days. Say what you like about their songs but they don't stop singing them for 90 minutes. They can't relocate further forward either because people would complain about them standing (probably a fair few who also complain about the shit atmosphere)
VIKTOR-LE5 Posted 23 July 2019 Posted 23 July 2019 4 minutes ago, Ted Maul said: Why should they stick to improving the atmosphere? For all they get right, there are plenty of issues that the club need questioning on and there don't seem to be many others willing to do it. I'm glad there's a fan group willing to push back a bit. It's not their fault nobody else can be arsed to sing these days. Say what you like about their songs but they don't stop singing them for 90 minutes. They can't relocate further forward either because people would complain about them standing (probably a fair few who also complain about the shit atmosphere) Maybe they need to sing a bit louder.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 23 July 2019 Posted 23 July 2019 8 minutes ago, VIKTOR-LE5 said: Maybe they need to sing a bit louder. But seriously why try and tell a supporter's group that you're not involved in what they should and shouldn't be doing. Goes for the Foxestrust, DSA etc as well.
ian_marshall Posted 23 July 2019 Posted 23 July 2019 I have mixed feelings regarding the introduction of these fees. I can see where the majority of fans are coming from in that it has the potential to be quite costly when purchasing tickets for a family or group, and I'm not sure how the club can justify such fees for those printing tickets at home as the process is an automated one which doesn't require any human input (other than for the buyer). I can also see why some fans (particularly those on lower incomes) may feel aggrieved at being asked to cover this cost given the amount of money in the game especially when you consider that the club seem content with having some player's on sizeable contracts who rarely feature within the first team squad, along with the ongoing debate over the amount of money paid out in agent fees. Having said the above and to be fair to the club, such fees are rightly or wrongly common practice in other sectors where the purchase of tickets is required prior to an event so I can see why they have gone down this route. Maybe a solution would be to comprise by charging fees for physical tickets dispatched via the ticket office whilst waiving the fees for those prepared to print at home, or as others have said cutting back on some of the freebies.
Guest Markyblue Posted 23 July 2019 Posted 23 July 2019 1 hour ago, VIKTOR-LE5 said: Maybe they need to sing a bit louder. Get rid of the klappers and issue some megaphones. Sorted.
gw_leics772 Posted 23 July 2019 Posted 23 July 2019 14 hours ago, VIKTOR-LE5 said: Weren't UFS set up to improve the atmosphere, apart from the occasional tifo, the atmosphere is still shit and sitting in a corner where Tv camera cant see em doesn't help. Maybe they should stick to improving the atmosphere. You're not seeing the bigger picture. The atmosphere is flat because people have an underlying depression caused by the unnecessary hardship put upon the crowd via this increase. Fix that and the atmosphere will be amazing (unless there were other underlying problems before the increase, perhaps its linked to boris. Ufs for prime minister) ??????
gw_leics772 Posted 23 July 2019 Posted 23 July 2019 19 hours ago, MattP said: Bizarre decision really, raises next to nothing in revenue in terms of overall income and comes across as robbing the fans. Agree with the people commenting on how sycophantic some of our fans are as well - you get the feeling if they wanted to shove the clappers in our anus on entry to the ground some would happily drop their trousers and bend over rather than dare to ask if it was really necessary. Alternatively, some might not give a shit, ignore it, do what they want and get on with their lives, unaffected. Its a possibility
gw_leics772 Posted 23 July 2019 Posted 23 July 2019 2 hours ago, VIKTOR-LE5 said: Maybe they need to sing a bit louder. I would join in but find them to be a bit pitchy, and their timings are all off. I reckon more rehearsals are in order ???? love this thread
gw_leics772 Posted 23 July 2019 Posted 23 July 2019 2 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: But seriously why try and tell a supporter's group that you're not involved in what they should and shouldn't be doing. Goes for the Foxestrust, DSA etc as well. Parliament?
Guest Markyblue Posted 23 July 2019 Posted 23 July 2019 18 hours ago, Dan LCFC said: Never fails to amaze me when something like this comes up how much some people ignore all logic because it's LCFC. They'd defend literally anything. You are surprised that people do not act logically when it comes to their football club, are you sure your a fan.
Dan Posted 23 July 2019 Posted 23 July 2019 1 minute ago, Markyblue said: You are surprised that people do not act logically when it comes to their football club, are you sure your a fan. No my bad, I'm clearly a Forest fan. My error.
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