The VAR thread

[HybridFox]

Get all the handballs given against us. None for us. What fun 

Edited 28 February 2020 by TK95

[urban.spaceman]

Down with this sort of thing. 

[FoxOfMelton]

Hit the defender's arm first, so why isn't he punished?

[wurmer]

VAR is dogshit.

 

It isn't providing the consistency and reduction in mistakes that is its very purpose.

 

It needs reforming or binning off, because it is ruining football as a spectator experience.

[funkyrobot]

37 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

There is no such thing as unsure now ?   Those lines really can’t be on top of each other 100% ....... Jesus was clearly onside when the lines were shown freeze framed ....

Only by a toe - a close close call that when players have been shown to be clearly offside, people complain about it. If you want the benefit of doubt to go to the striker than stop using VAR otherwise we are talking about making offside now onside. 

[st albans fox]

Just now, funkyrobot said:

Only by a toe - a close close call that when players have been shown to be clearly offside, people complain about it. If you want the benefit of doubt to go to the striker than stop using VAR otherwise we are talking about making offside now onside. 

The issue being the point at which the ball is played in not reliable with the technology - that’s where this conversation has come from 

[Guest Cujek]

****ing incompetent shit bags who do VAR I hope the **** gets coronavirus ****ing ****

[sheffield_fox]

Dunno if I can be bothered anymore. It's ruined this season...

[Super_horns]

I guess they will say it's been consistent with attacking handballs but it's been very soft.

 

 

[FlyingFuchs]

To me it’s just like that dinner lady who stops you having any fun

[UniFox21]

So it touches Nacho's hand, but also touches the defenders arm at the same time, another bullshit rule

[Legend_in_blue]

We're being screwed by the **** in the chair.  We will not get any more decisions go for us this season.

 

Corrupt ****s.

[BigGibbo]

We're way past the point where there should be an emergency meeting of the incompetent officials who have come up with the offside and offensive handball rules. So many good goals being disallowed by rigid unthinking application of ridiculous laws.

 

Need the final decision to be given back to the on field ref as well so all VAR can do for big decisions is refer them to the pitchside monitor for review.

 

Everywhere else it has been implemented it is a success so it's clear it is a problem with our rules and our sub-par officials.

[Spudulike]

46 minutes ago, FoxOfMelton said:

Hit the defender's arm first, so why isn't he punished?

Exactly. Touching the defenders hand first is not handball but touching the attackers hand after is? Is that the law? 

[Corky]

I understood why they brought in the rule because technology needs as much clarity as possible but how can it be that a defender, with his arm, knocks it against an attacker's hand and one is penalised because of the position on the pitch and what it leads to?

 

Basically, neither player deliberately handballs it, the defender touched it more yet the attacker loses out.

[Kopfkino]

A rule dreamt up by complete morons enforced by a system that makes brutalism seem joyful now only supported by people whose favourite position is missionary

[Fish]

Not clearly handball was it ffs!

[Vlad the Fox]

10 minutes ago, Kopfkino said:

A rule dreamt up by complete morons enforced by a system that makes brutalism seem joyful now only supported by people whose favourite position is missionary

Nah, someone who’s favourite position is missionary would be precise and correct with their decision making in a smugly confident way.

 

Var is dreamt up by a virgin who’s skimmed through the Kamasutra then tries to fumble through as many of the 64 positions as possible in his two minutes of premature humping.

[st albans fox]

10 minutes ago, Fish said:

Not clearly handball was it ffs!

It doesn’t have to be in the event of a goal being scored 

[Dirkster the Fox]

26 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Exactly. Touching the defenders hand first is not handball but touching the attackers hand after is? Is that the law? 

100% touched the defenders arm first.  100 x replays will show this. 

 

So why not a free kick to Leicester City at the minimum? How come they get a free kick?

 

VAR is a joke. Sick of the dam thing now, sick of it.

 

Oh and to prove this, WOLVES beat us 1-0 the other week.  Drawing to a good goal not given because a bloke was a nut sack off-side 25 yards away from the goal is a JOKE!

[st albans fox]

2 minutes ago, Dirkster the Fox said:

100% touched the defenders arm first.  100 x replays will show this. 

 

So why not a free kick to Leicester City at the minimum? How come they get a free kick?

 

VAR is a joke. Sick of the dam thing now, sick of it.

 

Oh and to prove this, WOLVES beat us 1-0 the other week.  Drawing to a good goal not given because a bloke was a nut sack off-side 25 yards away from the goal is a JOKE!

in these instances, VAR is only enforcing the laws of the game ...... it’s a reflection of poor planning by IFAB not to think that a situation like this couldn’t happen 

[Dirkster the Fox]

1 minute ago, st albans fox said:

in these instances, VAR is only enforcing the laws of the game ...... it’s a reflection of poor planning by IFAB not to think that a situation like this couldn’t happen 

VAR is ruining the game.  Whatever the armchair fan thinks or the "black and white" argument, its rapidly turned into game destroyer, not game enhancer.

 

I stand by my point. 

 

IMHO Wolves beat us 1-0 the other week and tonight it was our handball at the minimum for the disallowed goal. 

 

[astoriafox]

Clear and obvious!!!!!

I believe VAR can be good for the game but is used incorrectly.

Clear and obvious to means that it has been seen by a player or players &/or officials, but has been missed by the referee for whatever reason.

Use a challenge system whereby the captain can call one VAR per half (carried over if correct) or the referee can call VAR if he genuinely believes that he is unsure of a major decision to make.

After all, if no players on the pitch see it and no official see it and it proves to be an incorrect decision, then who can complain????

Todays goal would have stood, but on the other hand, Wolves handball in the opener would not have been seen and Tottenham's toe offside goal against us would have stood as nobody on the pitch saw it, only VAR, therefore to me that cannot be Clear and Obvious!

It would also give the captain more responsibility and if you have the ruling that only the captain and / or manager can make the call, then it would become more tactical as they would only trust who they think are their honest players / team mates and not heir divers / feigners.

 

[funkyrobot]

On my big telly in UHD there’s no way I could 100% say that definitely hit Iheanacho’s hand. It clearly hit the Norwich lad’s arm but there’s doubt it touched Kelechi’s IMO

[Tom12345]

Pathetic decision.

 

VAR was meant to be good, but the EPL has taken it way too far in using it.

 

Clear and obvious error!

 

Not accidental and unintentional handball that should be allowed anyway.

 

They are using VAR to reinterpret the rules.