The VAR thread

[red5]

Just now, StanSP said:

what? I said it wasn't conclusive that it hit Kelechi's arm. Therefore goal would remain...

What? You then said it came off Godfrey's arm first and Kelechi couldn't do anything about it, suggesting it hit his arm.

 

[StanSP]

2 minutes ago, red5 said:

What? You then said it came off Godfrey's arm first and Kelechi couldn't do anything about it, suggesting it hit his arm.

 

I meant that it wasn't conclusive it hit Kelechi's hand either, and that it hit Godfrey first regardless. 

[red5]

1 minute ago, StanSP said:

I meant that it wasn't conclusive it hit Kelechi's hand either, and that it hit Godfrey first regardless. 

Ok, but it doesn't matter if it hit Godfrey first.

[Spudulike]

Perhaps Stockley Park needs to be ditched and replaced with whoever does the VAR officiating in Euro Land if they have a grip on it. Might also provide a degree of neutrality. 

[Vlad the Fox]

Maybe they didn’t envisage this double handball happening and in fact the rules are any handball in the buildup counts, therefore Kelechi’s goal was disallowed for Godfrey’s handball.  

[Aus Fox]

Is the handball rule when attacking a Premier League rule, or one of the laws of the game?

I’ve seen quite a few goals similar to Nachos goal yesterday disallowed, Snodgrass for West Ham springs time mind when the ball hit Rice’s hand in the build up.

I can’t remember seeing a decision like these anywhere else in the world. I watch a quite a bit of a league, it’s usually on in the background though, without me paying to close attention and any other European games on tv likewise.

[Ian Nacho]

What I don’t understand is that VAR causes petty little decisions like we saw with Iheanacho, but if you’re going to be petty with that you have to be petty about everything. Being half a centimetre offside or the ball brushing the attackers arm is an offence but it’s more than fine if you take a free kick in your own half 15 yards away from where you’re supposed to take it or something similar with a throw in. At the end of the day, no matter how much technology you have, it’s pointless if the bloke in the middle is useless. 

[Ian Nacho]

What I don’t understand is that I can guarantee that the Wolves offside the other week and the handball last night, in the Champions League would be given as goals. It’s almost like the Premier League are actively looking for something wrong witn a goal. 

[StanSP]

7 hours ago, Ian Nacho said:

What I don’t understand is that I can guarantee that the Wolves offside the other week and the handball last night, in the Champions League would be given as goals. It’s almost like the Premier League are actively looking for something wrong witn a goal. 

The Wolves one definitely wouldn't have been. 

[st albans fox]

2 hours ago, StanSP said:

The Wolves one definitely wouldn't have been. 

And neither would friday’s

 

it was an unusual occurrence so the fact it’s not been seen elsewhere under VAR isn’t a surprise 

[TheUltimateWinner]

Corrupt? 

Edited 1 March 2020 by TheUltimateWinner

[yorkie1999]

16 hours ago, Ian Nacho said:

What I don’t understand is that I can guarantee that the Wolves offside the other week and the handball last night, in the Champions League would be given as goals. It’s almost like the Premier League are actively looking for something wrong witn a goal. 

Strange how in the whole of Europe it works, except here where we do it differently.

[TheUltimateWinner]

8 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

Strange how in the whole of Europe it works, except here where we do it differently.

You’ve pretty much just said what the fifa president has said. Everyone thinks we’re ****ing it up bar that twat Mike Riley. 

[Sir Shep]

Any one know how many times it’s gone in our favour and how many times it hasn’t? Just asking as it feels like we got lots of decisions earlier in the season and getting none at all now. 

[String fellow]

Man City's second goal today came from a corner-kick which was apparently given in error. VAR can't adjudicate on the award of corners, despite their potential for goals.

[Legend_in_blue]

36 minutes ago, TheUltimateWinner said:

You’ve pretty much just said what the fifa president has said. Everyone thinks we’re ****ing it up bar that twat Mike Riley. 

 

He needs to walk at the end of the season.  Either that, or someone needs to fire him.  Incompetent.

[yorkie1999]

15 minutes ago, Sir Shep said:

Any one know how many times it’s gone in our favour and how many times it hasn’t? Just asking as it feels like we got lots of decisions earlier in the season and getting none at all now. 

Thing is, it should never go in any teams favour as the whole point of it is to ensure decisions are correct. The very fact that fans look at it as gaining or not gaining an advantage shows just how crap it is. What needs to happen is that fans of opposing teams need to be camped outside shockley park and start booing the var ref.

[st albans fox]

9 minutes ago, String fellow said:

Man City's second goal today came from a corner-kick which was apparently given in error. VAR can't adjudicate on the award of corners, despite their potential for goals.

Please let’s not extend its remit even further .....it’s bad enough interfering as far as it !

[fuchsntf]

52 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

Strange how in the whole of Europe it works, except here where we do it differently.

Europeans believe we are no Good in the Kitchen But we are Great at cooking the Books on VAR...

we cant even be honest legally..!!

 

 

 

Edited 1 March 2020 by fuchsntf

[Countryfox]

54 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

Strange how in the whole of Europe it works, except here where we do it differently.

 

I blame brexit.

[Sir Shep]

5 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

Thing is, it should never go in any teams favour as the whole point of it is to ensure decisions are correct. The very fact that fans look at it as gaining or not gaining an advantage shows just how crap it is. What needs to happen is that fans of opposing teams need to be camped outside shockley park and start booing the var ref.

I appreciate that but I’m still curious, I’ll also agree that it is well basically shite, but is it favouring the big clubs? Some statto will know. 

[Guest worth_the_wait]

27 minutes ago, Sir Shep said:

Any one know how many times it’s gone in our favour and how many times it hasn’t? Just asking as it feels like we got lots of decisions earlier in the season and getting none at all now. 

I've kept track of all decisions overturned (not just VAR agreeing with an onfield decision).

 

I reckon we've had 8 in our favour, and 6 against.  (Although optastats says we had another one against us - so it might be 8 for, 7 against).

 

This includes Wigan's disallowed goal in the FA Cup.

 

I wouldn't say my stats are absolutely 100% correct, but in the right order of magnitude.

[goody2028]

1 minute ago, worth_the_wait said:

I've kept track of all decisions overturned (not just VAR agreeing with an onfield decision).

 

I reckon we've had 8 in our favour, and 6 against.  (Although optastats says we had another one against us - so it might be 8 for, 7 against).

 

This includes Wigan's disallowed goal in the FA Cup.

 

I wouldn't say my stats are absolutely 100% correct, but in the right order of magnitude.

According to google 7 for, 5 against 🤔

[Sir Shep]

29 minutes ago, worth_the_wait said:

I've kept track of all decisions overturned (not just VAR agreeing with an onfield decision).

 

I reckon we've had 8 in our favour, and 6 against.  (Although optastats says we had another one against us - so it might be 8 for, 7 against).

 

This includes Wigan's disallowed goal in the FA Cup.

 

I wouldn't say my stats are absolutely 100% correct, but in the right order of magnitude.

Thanks for that, so it’s just in our favour which is fine as this means that we are surely a big club! 

[purpleronnie]

I wonder if fans of the so called 'big clubs' believe they are benefiting from a bias or do they just think its more nonsense from fans with a inferiority complex.  My guess would be the latter and I'd agree with them.