Footballwipe Posted 30 August 2019 Posted 30 August 2019 I'm gonna do it. I'm going to be the callous bastard. How many of these are there going to be? There was one at Wolves for a fan who'd died. Has it become the default thing now that we have a minute's applause for anyone whose family put their head above the parapet and ask for one? It's totally diluting the minute's applause to something where people sit and clap their hands when they have no idea what's going on, merely joining in with the crowd.
Voll Blau Posted 30 August 2019 Posted 30 August 2019 1 hour ago, Footballwipe said: I'm gonna do it. I'm going to be the callous bastard. How many of these are there going to be? There was one at Wolves for a fan who'd died. Has it become the default thing now that we have a minute's applause for anyone whose family put their head above the parapet and ask for one? It's totally diluting the minute's applause to something where people sit and clap their hands when they have no idea what's going on, merely joining in with the crowd. I don't think it's callous at all. You're absolutely right. It also seems sarcastic to me. "Let's applaud the relatively young age at which someone was tragically taken from us." Makes me feel very uncomfortable if I'm honest.
goose2010 Posted 30 August 2019 Posted 30 August 2019 3 minutes ago, Footballwipe said: I'm gonna do it. I'm going to be the callous bastard. How many of these are there going to be? There was one at Wolves for a fan who'd died. Has it become the default thing now that we have a minute's applause for anyone whose family put their head above the parapet and ask for one? It's totally diluting the minute's applause to something where people sit and clap their hands when they have no idea what's going on, merely joining in with the crowd. I get what you mean, but it doesn't really matter mate, its a nice gesture and if it gives the organisers / friends and family a little boost at a truly terrible time then so be it.
Manwell Pablo Posted 30 August 2019 Posted 30 August 2019 19 minutes ago, Footballwipe said: I'm gonna do it. I'm going to be the callous bastard. How many of these are there going to be? There was one at Wolves for a fan who'd died. Has it become the default thing now that we have a minute's applause for anyone whose family put their head above the parapet and ask for one? It's totally diluting the minute's applause to something where people sit and clap their hands when they have no idea what's going on, merely joining in with the crowd. It's not callous and I agree. Condolences to the OP.
Wolfox Posted 30 August 2019 Posted 30 August 2019 If it gives the family and friends of Darren any crumb of comfort at a difficult time…. I’m in sorry for your loss OP
Corky Posted 30 August 2019 Posted 30 August 2019 8 minutes ago, Footballwipe said: I'm gonna do it. I'm going to be the callous bastard. How many of these are there going to be? There was one at Wolves for a fan who'd died. Has it become the default thing now that we have a minute's applause for anyone whose family put their head above the parapet and ask for one? It's totally diluting the minute's applause to something where people sit and clap their hands when they have no idea what's going on, merely joining in with the crowd. The Wolves one didn't really take off either, I doubt many people knew what was happening or who it was for.
shade Posted 30 August 2019 Posted 30 August 2019 I suppose the big problem is that a city fan under the age of 93 probably dies before each game, so we could conceivably be doing a few rounds of applause every week, as harsh as it sounds. maybe a picture on the big board with a condolences message instead?
kyleolly Posted 30 August 2019 Author Posted 30 August 2019 Thanks for the support if you don’t want to join in then don’t join in I was just posting to make the beautiful people who post on this forum aware of why people may applaud in the 55th minute of tomorrow’s game sorry for any upset caused.
Voll Blau Posted 30 August 2019 Posted 30 August 2019 1 hour ago, shade said: I suppose the big problem is that a city fan under the age of 93 probably dies before each game, so we could conceivably be doing a few rounds of applause every week, as harsh as it sounds. maybe a picture on the big board with a condolences message instead? Some kind of annual memorial day might be a nice idea for City fans who have died over the past year. The problem with these in-game gestures is that some get going, whereas others don't. What do the families of the applauses that don't get going take from that? That their loved ones weren't worth as much as others in the eyes of 30,000 people in a stadium? Like I say, the whole phenomenon makes me feel uncomfortable and it seems to be almost every home game where there's an appeal for people to get involved in one now.
AKCJ Posted 30 August 2019 Posted 30 August 2019 7 minutes ago, shade said: I suppose the big problem is that a city fan under the age of 93 probably dies before each game, so we could conceivably be doing a few rounds of applause every week, as harsh as it sounds. maybe a picture on the big board with a condolences message instead? Would be a nice idea if the club could add something into the remembrance day fixture where fans names are perhaps read out with their pictures on the big screen or something?
Xen Posted 30 August 2019 Posted 30 August 2019 Condolences to OP and Darren's family. However, I'm with those who think a minutes applause isn't entirely suitable. For me, it's something that should only be reserved for those very special circumstances - such as when someone close/integral to the club passes (i.e. Vichai, an esteemed club legend, or even in rare cases notable fans like Bradley Lowery), or potentially if a fan tragically dies at the match, as has happened before. I'd rather see us turn the last home game of each season into a 'remembrance' fixture, with a minute or two of applause whilst the names of Leicester fans who left us during the season are displayed on the big screens. (Edit: Good timing, @AKCJ, just beat me to the same suggestion, almost word for word )
Itsthejoeker Posted 30 August 2019 Posted 30 August 2019 condolences to OP and family. Whilst I think there should be a way to celebrate the life of those city faithful who have died over the year, I don’t think a minutes applause is the way to do it. There’s one every week these days and not only does it dilute the minutes applause we have for former foxes who’ve had an impact on all of our lives but it dilutes every minutes applause for fans too. They’ll end up meaningless. For those who who share this opinion, or want to know where my opinion stems from this post is worth a read: https://www.vice.com/amp/en_uk/article/yp8n5m/has-football-developed-an-unhealthy-obsession-with-grief
Manwell Pablo Posted 30 August 2019 Posted 30 August 2019 8 minutes ago, Itsthejoeker said: condolences to OP and family. Whilst I think there should be a way to celebrate the life of those city faithful who have died over the year, I don’t think a minutes applause is the way to do it. There’s one every week these days and not only does it dilute the minutes applause we have for former foxes who’ve had an impact on all of our lives but it dilutes every minutes applause for fans too. They’ll end up meaningless. For those who who share this opinion, or want to know where my opinion stems from this post is worth a read: https://www.vice.com/amp/en_uk/article/yp8n5m/has-football-developed-an-unhealthy-obsession-with-grief Yeah I've read that before and it is a top article. It's a difficult subject because it is always a tough situation but that article does a very good job of explaining my feelings on the subject.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 30 August 2019 Posted 30 August 2019 1 hour ago, Footballwipe said: I'm gonna do it. I'm going to be the callous bastard. How many of these are there going to be? There was one at Wolves for a fan who'd died. Has it become the default thing now that we have a minute's applause for anyone whose family put their head above the parapet and ask for one? It's totally diluting the minute's applause to something where people sit and clap their hands when they have no idea what's going on, merely joining in with the crowd. The awkward truth.
Alf Bentley Posted 30 August 2019 Posted 30 August 2019 1 hour ago, Xen said: Condolences to OP and Darren's family. However, I'm with those who think a minutes applause isn't entirely suitable. For me, it's something that should only be reserved for those very special circumstances - such as when someone close/integral to the club passes (i.e. Vichai, an esteemed club legend, or even in rare cases notable fans like Bradley Lowery), or potentially if a fan tragically dies at the match, as has happened before. I'd rather see us turn the last home game of each season into a 'remembrance' fixture, with a minute or two of applause whilst the names of Leicester fans who left us during the season are displayed on the big screens. (Edit: Good timing, @AKCJ, just beat me to the same suggestion, almost word for word ) This sounds like a good idea. Allows some public recognition for those who want it, but also an explanation so people know what's going on and who's involved. On a more flippant note, I'm concerned about my ex-mother-in-law as she's already 97. I just hope a player breaks his leg the week she pops her clogs or she might not get any recognition.
lifted*fox Posted 30 August 2019 Posted 30 August 2019 personally can't see what solace or relevance 30,000 people clapping (if everyone joins in) provides when losing a loved one. if someone I went to the football with passed away the last thing I'd really be concerned with is asking a stadium of random, unconnected people to clap in their 'remembrance'. I also think it's a bit weird having to make everyone think about death when they're at a leisure activity like watching the football. a glass raised on the park in the sun would be more personal and fitting before heading to the match, imo. every time one of these happens it just dilutes the impact of doing it tbh. still, here we are and there it is so - hope people join in and condolences to OP.
Fox92 Posted 30 August 2019 Posted 30 August 2019 2 hours ago, Voll Blau said: Some kind of annual memorial day might be a nice idea for City fans who have died over the past year. The problem with these in-game gestures is that some get going, whereas others don't. What do the families of the applauses that don't get going take from that? That their loved ones weren't worth as much as others in the eyes of 30,000 people in a stadium? Like I say, the whole phenomenon makes me feel uncomfortable and it seems to be almost every home game where there's an appeal for people to get involved in one now. Pretty sure there is a day where we read the names of people who died during the year? Or do we not do that anymore? Agree with your other points though.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 30 August 2019 Posted 30 August 2019 Sod it. Just clap from the 5th minute onwards, there'll be someone who supported the club died at that age. But seriously, condolences to the OP. I just think that my above sentence would be the inevitable conclusion. And yes, I realise it's harsh on 4 year olds.
Raj Posted 30 August 2019 Posted 30 August 2019 Sorry on loss. But these are getting very random and losing any impact. Most people didn't know what was going on at the Wolves game and unless you follow social media you won't have a clue. Like someone said do the families really get any comfort from total strangers applauding just because they feel the need to. I'm a callous bastard and don't even bother clapping anymore but if you feel obliged then go for it
kyleolly Posted 30 August 2019 Author Posted 30 August 2019 1 hour ago, Raj said: Sorry on loss. But these are getting very random and losing any impact. Most people didn't know what was going on at the Wolves game and unless you follow social media you won't have a clue. Like someone said do the families really get any comfort from total strangers applauding just because they feel the need to. I'm a callous bastard and don't even bother clapping anymore but if you feel obliged then go for it Well this post has been viewed by over a thousand people so that amount of people have been made aware of what’s going on if you don’t want to clap that’s fair enough nobody is forcing you to, most the pissheads on this forum will still be in the concourses in the 55th minute so wouldn’t want to inconvenience anybody to rush their drinks 😂
MPH Posted 30 August 2019 Posted 30 August 2019 you bunch of miserable buggers. clap if you want to, don’t clap if you don’t want to. if you’ve not lost a loved one who you went to games with on a weekly basis for many years and are not going through some grief then you probably won’t understand will you? no need to be arsoles about it.
Kopic Posted 30 August 2019 Posted 30 August 2019 I don't particularly have a problem with these things, just the timing is usually quite poor. I mean you can't expect to get much support for it if you post 24 hours before a match. 30k go to games, probably less than a 10th browse this forum. Proper planning and advertising and these things come off really well and I can see them being a nice gesture for the family, but with short timing, potentially resulting in a half arsed attempt, could have the complete opposite effect for the family. Also I know OP didn't get the best responses but calling everyone pissheads isn't really selling the cause.
kyleolly Posted 30 August 2019 Author Posted 30 August 2019 8 minutes ago, Kopic said: I don't particularly have a problem with these things, just the timing is usually quite poor. I mean you can't expect to get much support for it if you post 24 hours before a match. 30k go to games, probably less than a 10th browse this forum. Proper planning and advertising and these things come off really well and I can see them being a nice gesture for the family, but with short timing, potentially resulting in a half arsed attempt, could have the complete opposite effect for the family. Also I know OP didn't get the best responses but calling everyone pissheads isn't really selling the cause. I do apologise it was said in jest he only died yesterday so forward planning wasn’t really an option unless it was done for the next home game and then it would lose abit of gravitas being 3 weeks after the passing
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