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leicsmac

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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/arkansas-governor-signs-bill-allowing-medical-workers-to-refuse-treatment-to-lgbtq-people

 

"Opponents have said types of health care that could be cut off include maintaining hormone treatments for transgender patients needing in-patient care for an infection, or grief counseling for a same-sex couple. They’ve also said it could also be used to refuse to fill prescriptions for birth control, or by physicians assistants to override patient directives on end of life care."

 

If this does make it through to become law and isn't challenged successfully, does anyone really think it will end there?

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Carl the Llama

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4 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/arkansas-governor-signs-bill-allowing-medical-workers-to-refuse-treatment-to-lgbtq-people

 

"Opponents have said types of health care that could be cut off include maintaining hormone treatments for transgender patients needing in-patient care for an infection, or grief counseling for a same-sex couple. They’ve also said it could also be used to refuse to fill prescriptions for birth control, or by physicians assistants to override patient directives on end of life care."

 

If this does make it through to become law and isn't challenged successfully, does anyone really think it will end there?

Of course not, those who will speak up to defend it wouldn't want it stopping there anyway

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leicsmac

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29 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said:

Of course not, those who will speak up to defend it wouldn't want it stopping there anyway

Agreed.

 

It's darkly amusing that when this was brought up on here a while back I was assured that such a thing "wouldn't happen". Mostly by folks who wouldn't say they supported the idea wholesale but evidently were ok with the idea of "religious freedom" being taken to its logically depressing conclusion.

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Dahnsouff

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28 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/arkansas-governor-signs-bill-allowing-medical-workers-to-refuse-treatment-to-lgbtq-people

 

"Opponents have said types of health care that could be cut off include maintaining hormone treatments for transgender patients needing in-patient care for an infection, or grief counseling for a same-sex couple. They’ve also said it could also be used to refuse to fill prescriptions for birth control, or by physicians assistants to override patient directives on end of life care."

 

If this does make it through to become law and isn't challenged successfully, does anyone really think it will end there?

Sure, under the banner of personal liberty almost anything can be justified in the right environment.

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Dahnsouff

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22 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Right, but just to be clear we're saying this isn't really a good thing in this case, yes?

Right.

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urban.spaceman

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1 hour ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Saw the video for this last night, Jesus Christ! The girls have literally just killed someone and they're only bothered about their phone in the car?!

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9410913/Graphic-video-shows-moment-teen-girls-carjack-Uber-Eats-driver-death.html

 

Jesus Christ that’s harrowing. 

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Blarmy

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2 hours ago, nnfox said:

Why is nobody attending to the poor victim?

I had to watch it a few times to figure out what happening - didn’t realise the guy was hanging out the window.  The girls didn’t even care there was a body on the pavement - more bothered about the phone....  utterly appalling. 

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Bellend Sebastian

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It's not news, but I didn't know where else to put it, and ultimately it is from a newspaper.

 

This interview with Reverend Richard Coles about the loss of his husband is a sad but beautiful and lovely thing:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/mar/28/reverend-richard-coles-the-loss-is-immense

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Tragic, harrowing and frightening that they could be so unconcerned about the victim.

 

Also, Daily Mail clickbait. 

5 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Saw the video for this last night, Jesus Christ! The girls have literally just killed someone and they're only bothered about their phone in the car?!

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9410913/Graphic-video-shows-moment-teen-girls-carjack-Uber-Eats-driver-death.html

 

 

3 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Jesus Christ that’s harrowing. 

 

3 hours ago, nnfox said:

Why is nobody attending to the poor victim?

 

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Mickyblueeyes

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9 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Also not being talked about:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-56550359

Interestingly, I was talking to a client who originates from Mozambique about this last week. Apparently it’s been an issue raised by the local Muslim population (Particularly, the mosque Imams) of the rise of these psychopaths since around 2018. Most of their concerns have fallen on deaf ears and as a result this group is now on the rise. 
 

Apparently, foreigners arrived starting to discredit the local leaders within the community who had been there for years and started “recruiting” ill-educated youths. The local community faced a battle without any assistance. A battle they seem to be losing now. 
 

The unfortunate thing is, just like the rise of these psychos in Syria and Iraq, where the local Muslim leaders were warning against for years, there has been little relevance given to their concerns until it was too late. You’ll then have the dim in society saying “why are the moderates not speaking out” because guys like Majid Nawaz say they should’ve. The fact is they have been but don’t have LBC airwaves to get their message across - it’s sad and something needs to be done in poor societies earlier once concerns are raised to avoid these psychos coming up like this and destroying countries.

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4 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Interestingly, I was talking to a client who originates from Mozambique about this last week. Apparently it’s been an issue raised by the local Muslim population (Particularly, the mosque Imams) of the rise of these psychopaths since around 2018. Most of their concerns have fallen on deaf ears and as a result this group is now on the rise. 
 

Apparently, foreigners arrived starting to discredit the local leaders within the community who had been there for years and started “recruiting” ill-educated youths. The local community faced a battle without any assistance. A battle they seem to be losing now. 
 

The unfortunate thing is, just like the rise of these psychos in Syria and Iraq, where the local Muslim leaders were warning against for years, there has been little relevance given to their concerns until it was too late. You’ll then have the dim in society saying “why are the moderates not speaking out” because guys like Majid Nawaz say they should’ve. The fact is they have been but don’t have LBC airwaves to get their message across - it’s sad and something needs to be done in poor societies earlier once concerns are raised to avoid these psychos coming up like this and destroying countries.

Absolutely heartbreaking to read that. I was blown away by its beauty in 2009. Lots of problems, yes. But so much potential. Praia de Tofo is one of the most stunningly beautiful places I’ve ever had the privilege to visit, and being halfway up the coast it’s worryingly close to this madness. 

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Jon the Hat

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55 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56561929

 

In my mind, Chauvin is at least guilty of manslaughter if it simply can be proven that he was the one with his knee on Floyd's neck, forget anything else regarding intent. He died on his watch, that's the long and short of it...but I guess we shall see.

Maybe.  I don't think there is any doubt about that point.  I think it will come down to 1) whether he was allowed to do what he did under police procedure, 2) whether it was reasonable to be concerned enough by the threat that GF posed to not get off, and 3) Wether if GF had been fit and healthy it was reasonable to think his actions would not end in death.

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