Innovindil Posted 1 June 2020 Share Posted 1 June 2020 35 minutes ago, Aus Fox said: “Unclear where they may have gotten that cheesecake” This maybe my favourite line from any news report in history... Now that's my sort of protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnaldo Posted 1 June 2020 Share Posted 1 June 2020 35 minutes ago, StanSP said: What has been done wrong here? Acting like a bunch of Klansmen. ‘All Lives Matter’ my arse. On a more positive note, there been police marching in New Jersey, taking the knee in Miami, mingling with protestors in North Dakota (although there was apparently an escalation afterwards unfortunately). Big one I saw was the Sheriff at Flint, Michigan. Had a brief speech condemning the actions in Minneapolis and claimed he was serving the people of his jurisdiction so he’d do what they asked, they asked him to walk with them, so they complied. Almost brought a tear to my eye. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 1 June 2020 Share Posted 1 June 2020 13 hours ago, StanSP said: Just imagine what they've got on Keith Vaz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 1 June 2020 Share Posted 1 June 2020 This, along with the response to Covid, is either going to make or break Trumps re-election chances - and I think he knows it. Going for the "terrorism" angle (but Dylan Roof among others never was one, huh?) is just attempting to draw the battle lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 1 June 2020 Author Share Posted 1 June 2020 King of the tweets ... aka the tweeting tw@t says ... quote ... “The United States of America will be designating Antifa as a terrorist organisation” .... all you have to do to sort it out (or should have done earlier) is say it is absolutely scandalous, those responsible will feel the full force of justice and YOU will do all in your power to ensure it NEVER happens again !! ... But he’s probably worried about votes .. you nylon haired kn0b head ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 1 June 2020 Share Posted 1 June 2020 He really is some guy Enough outrage and scandal to look at, and you cannot even notice when he has p!ssed on your chips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 1 June 2020 Share Posted 1 June 2020 2 minutes ago, Countryfox said: King of the tweets ... aka the tweeting tw@t says ... quote ... “The United States of America will be designating Antifa as a terrorist organisation” .... all you have to do to sort it out (or should have done earlier) is say it is absolutely scandalous, those responsible will feel the full force of justice and YOU will do all in your power to ensure it NEVER happens again !! ... But he’s probably worried about votes .. you nylon haired kn0b head ... That's exactly what he's worried about. Thing is, he has to know the more this goes on the more likely the black vote will come out for anyone - even Biden - in order to remove him and that confrontation like this will be a long-run loser for him? Unless, of course, he knows or thinks that voting bloc can be suppressed well enough for it not to matter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Bentley Posted 1 June 2020 Share Posted 1 June 2020 12 minutes ago, leicsmac said: That's exactly what he's worried about. Thing is, he has to know the more this goes on the more likely the black vote will come out for anyone - even Biden - in order to remove him and that confrontation like this will be a long-run loser for him? Unless, of course, he knows or thinks that voting bloc can be suppressed well enough for it not to matter... Maybe he also thinks that this sort of confrontational law-and-order approach, with partly unstated racist undertones, will play well with the people who voted for him last time but might not otherwise do so this time? Maybe he thinks a larger black vote against him might be outweighed by a larger than expected white vote for him? On another point, how can "antifa" be designated a terrorist organisation? As I understand it, it is somewhere between a mindset and a loose movement comprising different, often disconnected small groups and individuals - or am I wrong about that? I get how he could clamp down on specific grouplets or individuals engaging in direct action and designate them terrorists (some might even deserve it), but a mindset/loose movement? Again, I suppose it plays well to potential voters who loathe that mindset or loose movement.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 1 June 2020 Share Posted 1 June 2020 Just now, Alf Bentley said: Maybe he also thinks that this sort of confrontational law-and-order approach, with partly unstated racist undertones, will play well with the people who voted for him last time but might not otherwise do so this time? Maybe he thinks a larger black vote against him might be outweighed by a larger than expected white vote for him? On another point, how can "antifa" be designated a terrorist organisation? As I understand it, it is somewhere between a mindset and a loose movement comprising different, often disconnected small groups and individuals - or am I wrong about that? I get how he could clamp down on specific grouplets or individuals engaging in direct action and designate them terrorists (some might even deserve it), but a mindset/loose movement? Again, I suppose it plays well to potential voters who loathe that mindset or loose movement.... I don't think he can actually get more people out to vote for him than he did last time - he's pretty much tapped out there, people not voting for Hillary in 2016 was at least as big a factor as people voting for Trump. So...I think if he is thinking in the way you suggest here, I think he's miscalculated - which is possible but I'm not sure why he would when it seems reasonably obvious and he has smart people working for him who would tell him exactly this. Hence my thoughts about there being other factors in play that might not be as well known. WRT the last paragraph, you're spot on and that Tweet is utterly ineffectual playing to the gallery, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 1 June 2020 Share Posted 1 June 2020 A video by MrsG I'm glad I don't live in the U S of A It used to be great now it's barely OK Religion in politics, racism rife The wealth gap, the bull crap, in fear for your life Too many guns, too much junk on the plates I'm glad I don't live in the United States Hard to stay healthy when money is tight If you want equality you'll have to fight The immigrant complex, low self esteem What's left of the hallowed American dream The devious nature of folks you should trust Self seeking egos and sentiment thrust down your throat like a big slice of homily pie that place ain't the apple of anyone's eye The tension is growing while all the World waits I'm glad I don't live in the United States The West coast, the East coast, the gap is so wide Then so many States in the growing divide No reason to worry about climate change Just live in denial, home sweet home on the range Then there is Donald, oh what happened there ? His politics wild, uncontrolled like his hair but somehow he says he's America's choice now no-one's allowed a dissenting voice He's just on a jolly and taking the piss It's safer to give that big fat ass a kiss Don't mean to offend all you genuine guys but there's nothing I'm wanting that your dollar buys x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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UPinCarolina Posted 1 June 2020 Share Posted 1 June 2020 1 hour ago, leicsmac said: This, along with the response to Covid, is either going to make or break Trumps re-election chances - and I think he knows it. Going for the "terrorism" angle (but Dylan Roof among others never was one, huh?) is just attempting to draw the battle lines. He's trying to use the same playbook that Richard Nixon used in 1968. "Law and Order" / Appealing to pearl clutching white America --> 'Southern Strategy' (articulated below by Republican strategist Steve Atwater in a 1981 interview) Atwater: Y'all don't quote me on this. You start out in 1954 by saying, "N*****"" By 1968 you can't say "******"—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "******" https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 1 June 2020 Share Posted 1 June 2020 25 minutes ago, UPinCarolina said: He's trying to use the same playbook that Richard Nixon used in 1968. "Law and Order" / Appealing to pearl clutching white America --> 'Southern Strategy' (articulated below by Republican strategist Steve Atwater in a 1981 interview) Atwater: Y'all don't quote me on this. You start out in 1954 by saying, "N*****"" By 1968 you can't say "******"—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "******" https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy/ I think this is probably correct, but I'm again not sure about how effective it will be in this era without additional shenanigans on the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 1 June 2020 Share Posted 1 June 2020 3 hours ago, Countryfox said: King of the tweets ... aka the tweeting tw@t says ... quote ... “The United States of America will be designating Antifa as a terrorist organisation” .... all you have to do to sort it out (or should have done earlier) is say it is absolutely scandalous, those responsible will feel the full force of justice and YOU will do all in your power to ensure it NEVER happens again !! ... But he’s probably worried about votes .. you nylon haired kn0b head ... Are antifa even involved in the riots? I've seen surprisingly little about them of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 1 June 2020 Share Posted 1 June 2020 1 hour ago, StanSP said: Also Liverpool: 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 1 June 2020 Share Posted 1 June 2020 Sorry, thought Antifa was a movement rather than a designated body/group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 1 June 2020 Share Posted 1 June 2020 Just now, urban.spaceman said: Also Liverpool: I knew that would be brought up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 1 June 2020 Share Posted 1 June 2020 1 minute ago, StanSP said: I knew that would be brought up. Couldn't resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pliskin Posted 1 June 2020 Share Posted 1 June 2020 Around 100 years ago a political party was formed known as the national socialist German workers party. Part of their rise to power and time in office they eliminated around 6 million human beings, because of who they were and what they represented. Roll the clock forward, and people are still being discriminated against and murdered because of who they are and what they represent. As a human race, we haven’t learnt a thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 1 June 2020 Author Share Posted 1 June 2020 46 minutes ago, StanSP said: Murder then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 1 June 2020 Share Posted 1 June 2020 This is all about to get a bit more crazy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guesty Posted 1 June 2020 Share Posted 1 June 2020 (edited) He just got the police the attack a crowd of peaceful protesters with tear gas and rubber bullets. Just to walk where they'd been and clumsily hold a bible outside a church. Think really he doesn't like the bunker boy thing. He just looks a typical bully. Dressing weakness up as strength. Wonder with things like this if it really works. His cultish supporters will love it. The swing voters might have another opinion. Edited 1 June 2020 by Guesty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 1 June 2020 Share Posted 1 June 2020 Just out of interest, what would happen if the police walked away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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