Lionator Posted 28 September 2020 Share Posted 28 September 2020 1 hour ago, urban.spaceman said: Wait... This Claudia Webbe? There were so many good local candidates for the Leicester East Labour seat yet the Corbynista's jettisoned one of their own in based her affiliation with Leicester (from 40+ years ago), so frustrating for the local branches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silebyfox_89 Posted 28 September 2020 Share Posted 28 September 2020 Was the harassment against Keith's wife? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 29 September 2020 Share Posted 29 September 2020 https://www.ft.com/content/ff1dc189-5531-4d81-8d17-7f332596f2cd This cabinet really are something special. Priti Patel considered sending asylum seekers to a volcanic commonwealth outpost in the South Atlantic 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted 29 September 2020 Share Posted 29 September 2020 6 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: https://www.ft.com/content/ff1dc189-5531-4d81-8d17-7f332596f2cd This cabinet really are something special. Priti Patel considered sending asylum seekers to a volcanic commonwealth outpost in the South Atlantic I loved every minute I spent there. It's a cracking island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kopfkino Posted 6 October 2020 Share Posted 6 October 2020 13 minutes ago, StanSP said: Surely Adam Bienkov realises that's the joke? Or are political journos completely bereft of any sense of humour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 6 October 2020 Share Posted 6 October 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, StanSP said: The man has no self awareness. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for politicians to change their views on things, but he criticising himself. He's ridiculous. Edited 6 October 2020 by Facecloth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 6 October 2020 Share Posted 6 October 2020 4 minutes ago, Kopfkino said: Surely Adam Bienkov realises that's the joke? Or are political journos completely bereft of any sense of humour? Is it a joke? He probably forgot he said, just remembers the quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopfkino Posted 6 October 2020 Share Posted 6 October 2020 6 minutes ago, Facecloth said: Is it a joke? He probably forgot he said, just remembers the quote. It couldn't be anymore obvious that it's joke. He's said it numerous times in the past, it used to be his go to line about them. You really think they chose such a specific, very Jonhson-like quote thinking it was somebody else's words to take the piss out of? 10 minutes ago, Facecloth said: The man has no self awareness. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for politicians to change their views on things, but he criticising himself. He's ridiculous. Okay, even assuming it's not a joke and he thinks it was the words of someone else, if you're happy for politicians to change their minds then why is it ridiculous to criticise yourself, whether that's in the knowledge that he said it or without knowing? I'm pretty confident everyone says things that mug past them off, be it intentional or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealingfox Posted 6 October 2020 Share Posted 6 October 2020 47 minutes ago, Kopfkino said: It couldn't be anymore obvious that it's joke. He's said it numerous times in the past, it used to be his go to line about them. You really think they chose such a specific, very Jonhson-like quote thinking it was somebody else's words to take the piss out of? Okay, even assuming it's not a joke and he thinks it was the words of someone else, if you're happy for politicians to change their minds then why is it ridiculous to criticise yourself, whether that's in the knowledge that he said it or without knowing? I'm pretty confident everyone says things that mug past them off, be it intentional or not. Isn't the issue more that he was wrong all along than that he has changed his mind? Imagine how many times better off we'd be if people like Johnson hadn't been (and indeed still are) so sneeringly dismissive over the last 10/20 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 6 October 2020 Share Posted 6 October 2020 I see the latest 3 word slogan is out: "build back better". They seem to have stopped even trying to make them make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 6 October 2020 Share Posted 6 October 2020 6 minutes ago, ealingfox said: Isn't the issue more that he was wrong all along than that he has changed his mind? Imagine how many times better off we'd be if people like Johnson hadn't been (and indeed still are) so sneeringly dismissive over the last 10/20 years. I should think at some point Boris has written an article both for and against most things. It seems to be the way he worked when he was a journalist. It's a shame he hasn't gone big on Nuclear instead, although sadly we don't really have the skills to deliver on that ourslves, so that is probably why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 6 October 2020 Share Posted 6 October 2020 1 hour ago, bovril said: I see the latest 3 word slogan is out: "build back better". They seem to have stopped even trying to make them make sense. Make the UK great again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 6 October 2020 Share Posted 6 October 2020 1 hour ago, Jon the Hat said: I should think at some point Boris has written an article both for and against most things. It seems to be the way he worked when he was a journalist. It's a shame he hasn't gone big on Nuclear instead, although sadly we don't really have the skills to deliver on that ourslves, so that is probably why. It doesn't have to be "instead", either - a combination of both Gen III/IV fission and various renewables would address the problems sustainably and well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 6 October 2020 Share Posted 6 October 2020 26 minutes ago, leicsmac said: It doesn't have to be "instead", either - a combination of both Gen III/IV fission and various renewables would address the problems sustainably and well. And to be fair we are going ahead with Nuclear plans. I guess storage will continue to get better as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 6 October 2020 Share Posted 6 October 2020 4 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: And to be fair we are going ahead with Nuclear plans. I guess storage will continue to get better as well. Both storage and renewable energy efficiency will continue to improve with places finally taking their development seriously. And it's not before time, either. This needs to happen around the world, not just in the UK, or just the developed world, for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopfkino Posted 6 October 2020 Share Posted 6 October 2020 1 hour ago, ealingfox said: Isn't the issue more that he was wrong all along than that he has changed his mind? Imagine how many times better off we'd be if people like Johnson hadn't been (and indeed still are) so sneeringly dismissive over the last 10/20 years. "There is no harm in being wrong - especially if one is promptly found out"(okay you can argue for harm and that it hasn't been prompt, but it's the idea behind the quote rather than the specifics in this case) and "When my information changes, I alter my conclusions". For sure, there's an issue that he was wrong previously and the possible damage that has done. But I don't see much value in holding past expressions against people, if they're now of a different opinion. We should value people changing their mind for the better rather than talk about them being wrong prior. Forgive me for assuming, but you seem like the type of person that supports rehabilitation of offenders, that you'd judge a prisoner on their actions after rehabilitation rather than because of what they did to end up there in the first place. So why doesn't that extend to ideas or positions on wind farms? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 6 October 2020 Share Posted 6 October 2020 2 hours ago, bovril said: I see the latest 3 word slogan is out: "build back better". They seem to have stopped even trying to make them make sense. The worst thing is every minister they wheel out is programmed to repeat it. That recent "Snitch in time" shit or whatever it was, repeated by two robots on different channels within two minutes of each other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 6 October 2020 Share Posted 6 October 2020 1 hour ago, Kopfkino said: "There is no harm in being wrong - especially if one is promptly found out"(okay you can argue for harm and that it hasn't been prompt, but it's the idea behind the quote rather than the specifics in this case) and "When my information changes, I alter my conclusions". For sure, there's an issue that he was wrong previously and the possible damage that has done. But I don't see much value in holding past expressions against people, if they're now of a different opinion. We should value people changing their mind for the better rather than talk about them being wrong prior. Forgive me for assuming, but you seem like the type of person that supports rehabilitation of offenders, that you'd judge a prisoner on their actions after rehabilitation rather than because of what they did to end up there in the first place. So why doesn't that extend to ideas or positions on wind farms? Not a Boris fan but I agree with this. Better to be satisfied with Boris' current approach (or what he is promising at least) than being spiteful about his initial position. Otherwise are we really saying people cant change their mind for greater good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 6 October 2020 Share Posted 6 October 2020 (edited) Surprised there’s not more disagreement of Rishi’s comments about retraining people from arts background. The ‘paranoid romantic’ in my head thinks the govt doesn’t want arty free thinkers right now but could do with compliant ‘soldiers’ Edited 6 October 2020 by Cardiff_Fox 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 6 October 2020 Share Posted 6 October 2020 14 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: Surprised there’s not more disagreement of Rishi’s comments about retraining people from arts background. The ‘paranoid romantic’ in my head thinks the govt doesn’t want arty free thinkers right now but could do with compliant ‘soldiers’ I think it's a massive slap in the face, take a shit and kick an industry when it's down despite said industry producing millions (billions?) for the economy. They'll be begging for it back when all venues are allowed to open up and host events. These politicians are so out of touch it's ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
when_you're_smiling Posted 6 October 2020 Share Posted 6 October 2020 1 hour ago, Cardiff_Fox said: Surprised there’s not more disagreement of Rishi’s comments about retraining people from arts background. The ‘paranoid romantic’ in my head thinks the govt doesn’t want arty free thinkers right now but could do with compliant ‘soldiers’ Liam Gallagher summing it up. Also. Work a bit in the housing industry and it’s doing absolutely fine. They’re surprised about how good business is. Johnson will still bang on about that as needing saving before anything else though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 7 October 2020 Share Posted 7 October 2020 12 hours ago, when_you're_smiling said: Liam Gallagher summing it up. Also. Work a bit in the housing industry and it’s doing absolutely fine. They’re surprised about how good business is. Johnson will still bang on about that as needing saving before anything else though. Probably because most Tory MPs have property portfolios to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 7 October 2020 Share Posted 7 October 2020 If this country is wank it's because illiterate ***** like L Gallagher are held up as straight talking men of the people. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 7 October 2020 Share Posted 7 October 2020 Jimmy Krankie to the Westminster: 'Fvck you Brits, freeedoom!' Also Jimmy Krankie to Westminster: 'Please sir, can I have some more?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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