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The Politics Thread 2020

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11 hours ago, lgfualol said:

http://mpsagainstfreeschoolmeals.com

 

See how much the scum that voted against feeding children have claimed in expenses. 

Imagine having such little self awareness/control that you need tens of thousands of pounds in government support to supplement your salary which is already ~2.5x the national average but don't believe that kids from poor families deserve the cost of a small meal each day for a couple of months.  Barbaric.

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21 minutes ago, RobHawk said:

Surely we are due another expenses scandal. How do you even mount up expenses over £30k let alone over £80k.

 

They claim in expenses more than what most people earn, it's disgusting.

In some cases they are actually claiming more than their own MPs salary which on average is around £80k

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2 hours ago, RobHawk said:

Surely we are due another expenses scandal. How do you even mount up expenses over £30k let alone over £80k.

 

They claim in expenses more than what most people earn, it's disgusting.

It includes their staffing and office costs. Which make up the bulk of it.

 

It'll actually be more than double that figure because the link uses the last 12 months for which all the info isnt available on IPSA yet. I think they get a staffing budget of something like 150k and that's being increased this year because it's deemed not enough.

 

IPSA reviews every single expense claim now, i'm sure it's possible to fiddle to an extent but not on the scale of before. Nepotism wrt staff is probably where the biggest problem might lie.

 

Essentially, anybody outraged by these expense figures doesn't want MPs to be able to do their jobs.

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1 hour ago, Innovindil said:

How the hell has macron managed to turn a French teacher getting brutally murdered into majority muslim countries calling for bans on French products. 

 

What a strange world we're living in. 

The same countries that are absolutely silent on China's treatment of the Uyghur. 

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7 hours ago, Innovindil said:

How the hell has macron managed to turn a French teacher getting brutally murdered into majority muslim countries calling for bans on French products. 

 

What a strange world we're living in. 

 

It's been in motion long before Samuel Paty was murdered. 18 months ago he was talking quite strongly about political Islam being secessionist and a threat to the republic, he did an hour long lecture on how to integrate Islam and secularism not long before the beheading and so his words sInce have just been an extension of that, naturally beefed up by those events. The 

 

He's sort of been positioning himself as an acceptable form of Le Pen for a while, the inability of the British news cycle to look beyond the Anglosphere means that he can say anything and people in the UK will still think he's a liberal centrist's wet dream despite being far more Trump-lite than Boris. Political Islam has become quite a central of his presidency and it's part of why he's keen to be pally with Russia, him and Putin share similar views about the threat of political Islam and it's why he's against further EU expansion into Balkans countries because he sees them as potential dangerous reservoirs of political Islam. 

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20 minutes ago, Kopfkino said:

 

It's been in motion long before Samuel Paty was murdered. 18 months ago he was talking quite strongly about political Islam being secessionist and a threat to the republic, he did an hour long lecture on how to integrate Islam and secularism not long before the beheading and so his words sInce have just been an extension of that, naturally beefed up by those events. The 

 

He's sort of been positioning himself as an acceptable form of Le Pen for a while, the inability of the British news cycle to look beyond the Anglosphere means that he can say anything and people in the UK will still think he's a liberal centrist's wet dream despite being far more Trump-lite than Boris. Political Islam has become quite a central of his presidency and it's part of why he's keen to be pally with Russia, him and Putin share similar views about the threat of political Islam and it's why he's against further EU expansion into Balkans countries because he sees them as potential dangerous reservoirs of political Islam. 

Weird since he let albania start the process of joining the EU with a muslim majority.

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26 minutes ago, Fightforever said:

Weird since he let albania start the process of joining the EU with a muslim majority.

Yeah, it's less the Balkans and just Bosnia really, or that's what he was open about. Although, I'd say removing his veto isn't a sign he's keen on it, it's just not worth the cost of the political capital for something that's not happening until the 2030s.

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It's nice seeing Hartley-Brewer being put down because she can be an obnoxious piece of work at times. 



 

Also some of the remarks and comments you see from Twitter accounts - usually with England/Union Jack flags, no picture and horrendous grammar - about people dying and drowning is disgusting. 

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I see the Lib Dems are calling for a 4-nation summit to save Christmas from Covid. 

 

I'd been wondering where they'd go next. From the party of austerity to the party of Remain to the party of Christmas, it seems.

 

Maybe they should change their name to The Christmas Party? :whistle:

 

Slap a white beard and red tunic on Ed Davey and he's got the right belly to go Ho-Ho-Ho-ing around the country, now that Rishi Sunak has decided he doesn't want to play Santa any more.

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On 26/10/2020 at 21:35, Kopfkino said:

 

It's been in motion long before Samuel Paty was murdered. 18 months ago he was talking quite strongly about political Islam being secessionist and a threat to the republic, he did an hour long lecture on how to integrate Islam and secularism not long before the beheading and so his words sInce have just been an extension of that, naturally beefed up by those events. The 

 

He's sort of been positioning himself as an acceptable form of Le Pen for a while, the inability of the British news cycle to look beyond the Anglosphere means that he can say anything and people in the UK will still think he's a liberal centrist's wet dream despite being far more Trump-lite than Boris. Political Islam has become quite a central of his presidency and it's part of why he's keen to be pally with Russia, him and Putin share similar views about the threat of political Islam and it's why he's against further EU expansion into Balkans countries because he sees them as potential dangerous reservoirs of political Islam. 

Thanks. Interesting take. I don't follow French politics at all but my pure gut reaction based on snippets of UK medis would be he's a woke, Trudeau like politician. 

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On 26/10/2020 at 22:35, Kopfkino said:

 

It's been in motion long before Samuel Paty was murdered. 18 months ago he was talking quite strongly about political Islam being secessionist and a threat to the republic, he did an hour long lecture on how to integrate Islam and secularism not long before the beheading and so his words sInce have just been an extension of that, naturally beefed up by those events. The 

 

He's sort of been positioning himself as an acceptable form of Le Pen for a while, the inability of the British news cycle to look beyond the Anglosphere means that he can say anything and people in the UK will still think he's a liberal centrist's wet dream despite being far more Trump-lite than Boris. Political Islam has become quite a central of his presidency and it's part of why he's keen to be pally with Russia, him and Putin share similar views about the threat of political Islam and it's why he's against further EU expansion into Balkans countries because he sees them as potential dangerous reservoirs of political Islam. 

If he and any western leader were serious about stopping islamism, they would start by cutting off all ties with Saudi Arabia uae and any golf state. They have been funding wahabism and salafism for decades and the west looks to the other side. Terrorism comes from them. And I'm Muslim myself, it's just the truth, one cannot sell arms and invest in people who help terrorists and make them and complain later. (and if it were up to those wahabies and salafies, they'd cut my head off just for being sufi! They're the enemy of humanity) 

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It makes for some grim reading alright. Usual Twitter bampots still shouting into thin air in defence of a man who, without any sense of remorse or contrition, condemned the poorest in our society to at least four more years of Tory government mind. Imagine being that lacking in self-awareness or devoting so much energy to a cult of one person in a movement that's meant to represent millions.

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