Coronavirus Thread

[CosbehFox]

In other news Cummings absolutely gone after Hancock and DoE in the Parliamentary hearing today 

[st albans fox]

3 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

 

Well. Them road map dates are looking less certain now 

We were ahead of schedule anyway ....the road map will be affected by hospitalisations and nothing else imo 

 

it’s probably due to one of those spreadsheets not having enough columns ......

[StanSP]

6 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

 

Well. Them road map dates are looking less certain now 

 

 

Don't think road maps will be affected but really does beg the question on what the government are on about with their statements today if the above is to be believed? 

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

13 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Don't think road maps will be affected but really does beg the question on what the government are on about with their statements today if the above is to be believed? 

An absolutely bizarre statement today with very little context. Seemingly this going alone business has pissed off other countries and we're now playing politics. Who'd have thunk it.

Edited 17 March 2021 by Chocolate Teapot

[Leicester_Loyal]

21 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

 

Well. Them road map dates are looking less certain now 

 

 

Then we'll riot

[Leicester_Loyal]

 

[TiffToff88]

I had my first dose of the vaccine on Friday. Felt rough for the whole weekend. 

 

But on the plus side, the microchip has boosted my wifi

[DennisNedry]

The vaccine supply slowdown is baffling at this stage. It can surely be nothing to do with freeing up 2nd doses, as there's millions of people who aren't ready for their 2nd yet and won't be for another couple of months. 

 

AZ are saying that their supplies are unaffected, so must be Pfizer then... but they've said nothing? Surely nothing to do with the EU banning exports to us on the quiet?

Also, when are these bloody Moderna jabs going to arrive? It was approved months ago and we're still no nearer a firm date for delivery.

 

At first, the news felt like a kick in the bollocks, especially after the positive news of 'bumper weeks' in March only to be told now that April is going to be a really slow month. However upon reflection, if the over 50s are completed by the start of April, that's 99% of hospitalisations and deaths covered. So really, at that point, the important work is done. Vaccinating the under 50s - especially 20 somethings like me - won't have much impact on anything other than transmission rates which will hopefully be an irrelevance by the early summer. I'm more than happy to resume normal life in an unvaccinated state. I think the vast majority of young to middle aged people are.

[VLC86]

3 minutes ago, DennisNedry said:

The vaccine supply slowdown is baffling at this stage. It can surely be nothing to do with freeing up 2nd doses, as there's millions of people who aren't ready for their 2nd yet and won't be for another couple of months. 

 

AZ are saying that their supplies are unaffected, so must be Pfizer then... but they've said nothing? Surely nothing to do with the EU banning exports to us on the quiet?

Also, when are these bloody Moderna jabs going to arrive? It was approved months ago and we're still no nearer a firm date for delivery.

 

At first, the news felt like a kick in the bollocks, especially after the positive news of 'bumper weeks' in March only to be told now that April is going to be a really slow month. However upon reflection, if the over 50s are completed by the start of April, that's 99% of hospitalisations and deaths covered. So really, at that point, the important work is done. Vaccinating the under 50s - especially 20 somethings like me - won't have much impact on anything other than transmission rates which will hopefully be an irrelevance by the early summer. I'm more than happy to resume normal life in an unvaccinated state. I think the vast majority of young to middle aged people are.

The part I’m most shocked about here is you being 20 something  amazed that isn’t your actual picture.

[String fellow]

My dislike of Ursula increased today, as she seemed to hint at blocking vaccine supplies to the UK. On another point, the suggestion made here yesterday was that we might have seen the end of 3-digit daily death tolls. Not so, and the graph of new cases seems to be flattening off rather than continuing to fall. 

[DennisNedry]

1 minute ago, Costock_Fox said:

The part I’m most shocked about here is you being 20 something  amazed that isn’t your actual picture.

 

Haha that (my profile photo) is the character Dennis Nedry from Jurassic Park  

[Dunge]

Putting everything together, my theory is that, back in February when everything was kicking off over the contracts, the UK told the EU that they’d offer some of the AZ vaccine from the UK plants if AZ couldn’t up their yield by 2021 quarter 2 (which unfortunately seems to be the case). It feels like something we might have done out of diplomacy, to try to quell any further public argument, threats and withholding of the Pfizer vaccine, in the hope/expectation that AZ would be able to up their yield in Europe.

And hence why Ursula is ramping up the rhetoric and we have this mysterious projected drop in the AZ vaccine.

 

 

Edit: Scratch this; looks like I was putting 2 and 2 together to make 5, given reports this morning that the projected fall is due to a delayed shipment from India.

Edited 18 March 2021 by Dunge

[Super_horns]

Will they delay giving people the 2nd jab or carry on with that ?

 

Or save vaccines to give those who haven’t had one at all a chance to get theirs ?

[leicsmac]

3 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

I think you are quite generous to the post. It was fine but didn't mention anything new.

 

Personally,.I'm pretty sure the AZ is fine. Its core structure has been in development for years. And if i was in any way at risk, I'd take it.

 

It just frankly does not sit well to be bullied into taking it when it's not medically necessary. It's a kind of emotional blackmail 'it's not for your benefit, it's for the people you'll kill if you don't take it'

 

...I just think it's a.big ask. Equuvalent to forcing a vegetarian to scoff a.burger on the basis a ta6ndom.pensioner might die if they don't.

 

 

Well, to be honest that's a rather interesting way of looking at an act that helps other people, given that the threat to other people is documented and accurate.

 

But if such things are somehow "emotional blackmail" for those men who have to remain an island and/or what I'm saying here is the same, then so be it.

[Buce]

I'm experiencing some quite unpleasant (what I assume to be) side effects from the AZ vaccine: two nights of intermittant insomnia, and when I do sleep I'm having nightmares and profuse sweating. Fml.

[peach0000]

1 hour ago, Buce said:

I'm experiencing some quite unpleasant (what I assume to be) side effects from the AZ vaccine: two nights of intermittant insomnia, and when I do sleep I'm having nightmares and profuse sweating. Fml.

I’ve experienced the same plus aching during the day as well. Paracetamol and caffeine work wonders. I had my jab on Tuesday and I’ve just woken up feeling pretty good after 14 hours of on and off sleeping and sweating. Just know it won’t last forever because I know it’s pretty awful.

[Buce]

No wonder Johnson is running scared of a public inquiry:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/18/delaying-englands-winter-lockdown-caused-up-to-27000-extra-covid-deaths

 

He can run but he can't hide:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/17/bereaved-families-issue-legal-ultimatum-to-boris-johnson-over-covid-inquiry

[CosbehFox]

25 minutes ago, Buce said:

No wonder Johnson is running scared of a public inquiry:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/18/delaying-englands-winter-lockdown-caused-up-to-27000-extra-covid-deaths

 

He can run but he can't hide:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/17/bereaved-families-issue-legal-ultimatum-to-boris-johnson-over-covid-inquiry

He’s on one of his disappearing acts again at the moment. Where he goes missing for 2 to 3 weeks and avoids any limelight. 

[when_you're_smiling]

I’ve thought all along that as soon as most of the old people more likely to vote Tory had been vaccinated, the roll out would slow right down.

 

Was hoping it was just me being unfairly cynical. 

[WigstonWanderer]

Apparently the EU is still blocking shipments of AZ vaccine to Australia. Can’t understand this if they aren’t using it themselves. Australia is now offering to pass any shipments that are allowed through to Papua New Guinea who are having something of a COVID crisis.

[Dunge]

6 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said:

Apparently the EU is still blocking shipments of AZ vaccine to Australia. Can’t understand this if they aren’t using it themselves. Australia is now offering to pass any shipments that are allowed through to Papua New Guinea who are having something of a COVID crisis.

I was reading about this yesterday - suggestions that in PNG right now up to 1 in 3 people are testing positive for the virus.

I can’t help but feel that any vaccines that are now planned to arrive there will be too late. (Although I’m not trying to say we shouldn’t try.)

[Strokes]

3 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said:

Apparently the EU is still blocking shipments of AZ vaccine to Australia. Can’t understand this if they aren’t using it themselves.

 

[WigstonWanderer]

12 minutes ago, Strokes said:

 

Haha, makes me go a bit brexity

[rico]

I had the AZ last week, had no side effects at all but i do know people who have felt rough a couple of days later...

[Strokes]

45 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said:

Haha, makes me go a bit brexity

It’s getting a bit crowded on this naughty step.