CosbehFox Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 Incredible insight into Barcelona's dodgy accounting systems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALC Fox Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 We should be all over a two-season loan with an option to buy. If he's good enough for Barça at the end of it then he's probably (hopefully) helped us to break into that upper echelon of clubs, increasing the chances of us being able to buy the next wonderkid from Braga, Benfica, Monaco or whoever. And if he's not good enough for Barça then he may well still be good enough for us. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffschlupp Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 I'm no expert in contract law, but can an option to buy be activated at any time over the course of a loan? There would surely be no difference if we took a two-year loan, made the €50m purchase early (if he's any good), and covered the short-term cash flow issue with a bank loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, HankMarvin said: Not really, Rodgers would be better spending time developing a player he has brought rather than a raw talent for Barcas benefit, that at the end of the 2 years that they either keep or his value has shot up and bigger teams getting involved Dortmund didn't do to badly out of loan of Hakimi from Real Madrid for two years We could have access to a fantastic player for two season we may have had no chance of signing any other way! Edited 6 August 2020 by coolhandfox 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 23 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: Not really, Rodgers would be better spending time developing a player he has brought rather than a raw talent for Barcas benefit, that at the end of the 2 years that they either keep or his value has shot up and bigger teams getting involved An option to buy would have an agreed fee attached. That fee would be agreed now. If Barca come back and request a first refusal right instead, then that would be problematic. An option puts us in a better position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 19 minutes ago, jeffschlupp said: I'm no expert in contract law, but can an option to buy be activated at any time over the course of a loan? There would surely be no difference if we took a two-year loan, made the €50m purchase early (if he's any good), and covered the short-term cash flow issue with a bank loan? You’d usually have an option trigger period. We would be required to trigger the option during that period or lose our right. Normally that would be in the last 6months of the loan period. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnfox Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 Even if we bought him, two years is a long time in football. There's no guarantee he'd be here for a third year anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chocolate Teapot Posted 5 August 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 5 August 2020 16 minutes ago, nnfox said: Even if we bought him, two years is a long time in football. There's no guarantee he'd be here for a third year anyway. Exactly. If hes mustard he'd probably be moving to a club like barca anyway and he might elevate us to a level where we can buy the next big thing outright. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenfox Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 I can see this thread reaching the mystical 100 pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 8 minutes ago, Abrasive fox said: Exactly. If hes mustard he'd probably be moving to a club like barca anyway and he might elevate us to a level where we can buy the next big thing outright. Suppose the downside for us is, if its only a loan is we don't benefit from the profit, which is our business model. I'd still take him though, I think a couple of loans might be needed need increase our short term quality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 Be nice whilst he is here, play him plenty, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjcW Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 It’s nice to see us thinking more like European clubs. Always puzzled me why Prem teams don’t do deals like this, two year loans etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UHDrive Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 What weekly salary would we be looking at for this wonderkid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 Just now, UHDrive said: What weekly salary would we be looking at for this wonderkid? £2.50 a week, packet of Chewits and a copy of this weeks Shoot! should keep him sweet. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 Is this similar to what they did with Deulofeu? Loan him out, see how he gets on, loan/sell him again if the player fancies it, keep him if they think he has some promise. (I know Deulofeu was a youth product, highly-rated at the time nonetheless). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 Just now, Dahnsouff said: £2.50 a week, packet of Chewits and a copy of this weeks Shoot! should keep him sweet. Chewits?! I heard it was a multi-pack of Kitkat Chunky's but maybe your source is different to mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonthefox Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 9 minutes ago, Brenfox said: I can see this thread reaching the mystical 100 pages. I tend to get involved around the 70 mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonthefox Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 2 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...no Duncan Biscuits!!! Duncan disorderly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 3 minutes ago, StanSP said: Is this similar to what they did with Deulofeu? Loan him out, see how he gets on, loan/sell him again if the player fancies it, keep him if they think he has some promise. (I know Deulofeu was a youth product, highly-rated at the time nonetheless). They love getting rid of their academy players, that's why if they won't let us have Trincao then we should go for Collado when he's back from injury. Failing that Kubo at Real Madrid is another very talented left footed right winger. Can we loan 2 players from 1 overseas club? Get him and Jovic for a season with options to sign for £50m the pair. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Teapot Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 15 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Suppose the downside for us is, if its only a loan is we don't benefit from the profit, which is our business model. I'd still take him though, I think a couple of loans might be needed need increase our short term quality. Yeah but we'd probably be paying a signing on bonus and would have to pay him more to convince him to come here - if he's as good as he's being made out to be it'd be a pleasure to see him here even if its for 2 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 6 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: They love getting rid of their academy players, that's why if they won't let us have Trincao then we should go for Collado when he's back from injury. Failing that Kubo at Real Madrid is another very talented left footed right winger. Can we loan 2 players from 1 overseas club? Get him and Jovic for a season with options to sign for £50m the pair. Kubo's going to Villarreal He was an absolutely beaming light in a shroud of darkness in Mallorca's season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_up_north Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 In all fairness, a two year loan is good. If we can set a precedent for that kind of stuff then I'm all for it. Good, young players who fit our profile and get games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 (edited) This will happen, even if we don’t sign him Barca will get a player back with two years of PL experience under his belt. And anyway, by then they probably would have signed someone else. Great move by the club if (when) it comes off. Not so good for my Andrex consumption. Edited 5 August 2020 by Pliskin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarehamFox Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 30 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: £2.50 a week, packet of Chewits and a copy of this weeks Shoot! should keep him sweet. Shoot mag still about? I'll be off in the morning for Shoot, Match and Readers Wives. Like the good old days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardyfox86 Posted 5 August 2020 Share Posted 5 August 2020 36 minutes ago, Pliskin said: This will happen, even if we don’t sign him Barca will get a player back with two years of PL experience under his belt. And anyway, by then they probably would have signed someone else. Great move by the club if (when) it comes off. Not so good for my Andrex consumption. Is this coming from a position of knowledge, hope or assumption? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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