Danny Drinkwater

[TiffToff88]

27 minutes ago, Out Foxed said:

a section of our fans sing a song telling maguire to **** off even though he left under infinitely better circumstances than those three. 

What people need to realise is that there is no loyalty in football. Enjoy what you have when you have it because more often than not players will leave when a better offer comes along, as any of us would too.

 

Did Maddison show loyalty to Norwich? No, he jumped ship the second a Premier League team came calling. Was Soyuncu loyal no Freiburg? Nah, Leicester offered him more money. Was Wes Morgan loyal to Forest after all those years with them? Actually that's a bad example. Anyone who chooses Forest over Leicester should be locked up in an institution. But I think you get my point.

Edited 10 September 2020 by TiffToff88

[RobHawk]

2 minutes ago, Blue Fox 72 said:

Classic track Suzie! 

 

 

There's an idea for thread, incredible songs that have been ruined for you. 

 

The intro to this just reminds me of England being shit yet remains an incredible song.

 

As for Danny, he was always described as a complex character by big nig, that comes across in the article to me. He just never seemed happy with what he had. I get it tbh and hope he finds somewhere he can settle and rebuild as and hope he can rebuild his life and career.

[dmayne7]

Sympathy for feeling so lost and stating that money isn't important. But then he paints an unsympathetic picture, with constant mistakes that there are no excuses for. No excuse for anyone drink driving in this day and age and literally no explanation as to why he headbutted Jota. 

 

Whilst I agree that money doesn't fix everything, the fact he says it doesn't help at all shows you how out of touch he is. Having money doesn't get rid out your problems but it sure does make life easier.

 

Had no problem with him moving as he was fantastic for us when things were going well but he was also key in influencing us negatively on the pitch when things weren't going well and I never took to him as a bloke. This is probably why.

Edited 10 September 2020 by dmayne7

[goose2010]

problem is he mentions its not about the money. If he doesn't care what he earns he should drop down to the championship to someone like Watford / Brentford or even move back up north to a team to be closer to his family.. Take a massive pay cut and maybe people will start to see that he is someone that just wants to play. 

 

A fit and focused Drinkwater would still rip it up in the Championship. 

[moseeds]

Quite sad reading through his experience. Clearly suffering with poor mental health. Hope he finds some peace.

[lcfc sheff]

Salford city signing in three years written all over him! 

[StriderHiryu]

38 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

Doesn’t come across as very likeable in that interview which I’m pretty sure wasn’t the aim 

Ironically, it makes for a fascinating interview as a result. 

[Samilktray]

I imagine he probably head butted Jota over an overly enthusiastic challenge in training but it’s a bit strange he doesn’t touch on why it happened 

[Guest Kopfkino]

Well thank **** some of the folk commenting on this don't frequent the depression thread, shameful stuff.

[JimmyC74]

1 hour ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/09/10/danny-drinkwater-exclusive-made-mistakes-not-simple-just-picking/

 

He could've left us after the title winning season. Its interesting, he says he stayed and then felt deflated - perhaps the high of winning the league had the same affect on a few players which explains our drastic drop in form. 

I struggle with the deflation bit tbh. He should have been part of group saying let’s push on together to achieve more (not saying league wins, but Europe & FA Cups) rather than thinking of his career. Not sure if urban myth but I recall that when Arsenal wanted Vardy a group of players (probably including Drinky) begged him to stay...shame he didn’t think like Vards. Up the city!

[AjcW]

As many have said, it's really sad and clearly he has struggles with his mental health.

For me though, if it's not about the money and he's able to scale down his lifestyle to suit that (his business in Manchester went bust pretty quickly!) then he should be offering himself out to newly promoted sides and top end championship sides on a fraction of his current wages or even pay as you play.

 

A season of rebuilding himself, 38 games somewhere and he'll be an attractive prospect who can ask for bigger wages in no time!

 

It's always the bit that bothers me about these articles... sad absolutely... but he has options if he genuinely wants to fix things.

[Jacnah]

1 hour ago, HighPeakFox said:

How terribly sad to read.

Author of his own downfall and position but he can be author of whats next. And yes, it is sad. Whatever water has passed under the bridge this guy was instrumental in one of the best seasons we have or probably will ever see. We shouldn't forget that

[Guest Mickyblueeyes]

26 minutes ago, JimmyC74 said:

I struggle with the deflation bit tbh. He should have been part of group saying let’s push on together to achieve more (not saying league wins, but Europe & FA Cups) rather than thinking of his career. Not sure if urban myth but I recall that when Arsenal wanted Vardy a group of players (probably including Drinky) begged him to stay...shame he didn’t think like Vards. Up the city!

I agree with you. However, it is human nature. I mean I’ve had it in the past. Completed a big project and then just de-motivated. Not that it’s right but it can happen.

[JimmyC74]

3 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

I agree with you. However, it is human nature. I mean I’ve had it in the past. Completed a big project and then just de-motivated. Not that it’s right but it can happen.

Agreed and I don’t dismiss / want to downplay the mental issues He has had since. just a shame that at our peak he decided to twist and not stick.

[Guest Markyblue]

1 hour ago, Jobyfox said:

It’s interesting that fans demand loyalty and passion from our players, but don’t see the irony of how fickle we are ourselves. Players don’t ‘love’ clubs like we do they’re just managing their own careers.

 

You'd think the 2015/16 season would have given that team a free hit in terms of being revered for all time whatever their choices. Instead we’re happy to condemn them for chasing money and more success.

 

I find the booing of Mahrez a bit moronic considering what he achieved for us. Similarly Drinkwater delivered in a team that got us promotion even before 15/16. I know they may have said a few things that to me just reveals that they’re not die hard fans of LCFC like we are.

 

I agree with those who question why Kante is excused. He was the one that left immediately to a club that hadn’t even qualified for the Champions League and was possibly one of the biggest reasons for our immediate slump.

 

I’ll never be able to shout abuse at our 15/16 heroes as some think it is ok to do but, for me, it’s Kante who I remember the least favourably despite his incredible attributes. 

I always find the picking out of kante as the bad guy really weird,  drinkwater would have gone if allowed to but the club wouldn't let both go and if the right team and offer had have come in for mahrez after the title win he would have disappeared too,  they are all the same to me just kante had a release clause so we couldn't stop him, the only loyalty shown was vardy turning down arsenal. 

[HighPeakFox]

1 hour ago, Suzie the Fox said:

In one respect i read the article and felt sorry for him how his life just went from hero to zero, but without wanting to sound mean i also have little symphony for someone who is constantly in the spotlight for the wrong reasons. One mistake sure, 2 is silly but i guess acceptable, 3 is meh and yes he had issues but, i dont take from that article he was trying THAT hard to resolve them. 

Suze, you know I love you dearly, but don't make it so easy for me - I'm a musician ffs...

[Guest Markyblue]

2 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

Suze, you know I love you dearly, but don't make it so easy for me - I'm a musician ffs...

I'd had said teacher. Shows what i know. 

[HighPeakFox]

Just now, Markyblue said:

I'd have said teacher. Shows what i know. 

I'm both. It is possible to have more than one strong to the bow (sorry).

[Leeds Fox]

Coincidence that he’s done this during the transfer window? 

 

Shame to see his career nosedive and him have these problems. Drink-driving is inexcusable but that aside he really seems like he isn’t in a very good place. Regardless of his history (good and bad) with us, it’s a not nice hearing someone of a similar age to me not enjoying life, no matter how many of us would probably swap places. 

[Jobyfox]

16 minutes ago, Markyblue said:

I always find the picking out of kante as the bad guy really weird,  drinkwater would have gone if allowed to but the club wouldn't let both go and if the right team and offer had have come in for mahrez after the title win he would have disappeared too,  they are all the same to me just kante had a release clause so we couldn't stop him, the only loyalty shown was vardy turning down arsenal. 

I think my point is that I’m not picking out anyone as “bad guys” given what they achieved, but I hear boo-ing of Mahrez in the stadium and see Drinkwater abused on line. 

 

Nothing for Kante. Despite the fact that, whatever the circumstances, he disappeared quicker than a rat up a drain pipe. 

[Guest Markyblue]

1 minute ago, Jobyfox said:

I think my point is that I’m not picking out anyone as “bad guys” given what they achieved, but I hear boo-ing of Mahrez in the stadium and see Drinkwater abused on line. 

 

Nothing for Kante. Despite the fact that, whatever the circumstances, he disappeared quicker than a rat up a drain pipe. 

Yep understand that. Just saying all wanted out.

[Chrysalis]

2 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/09/10/danny-drinkwater-exclusive-made-mistakes-not-simple-just-picking/

 

He could've left us after the title winning season. Its interesting, he says he stayed and then felt deflated - perhaps the high of winning the league had the same affect on a few players which explains our drastic drop in form. 

Wow

 

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“I decided to get my head down and give it a go in the Champions League, but once that was over I felt like I had nothing, I was deflated as anything and then I felt like I was just plodding along in the games.

 

So basically I guess it was a case of having achieved everything possible with us in the league there was no motivation left outside of the CL.  Makes you wonder how much of the squad felt like that, and makes me really respect Ferguson more how he kept his teams hungry.

[ozleicester]

Lets face it, he was never  truly happy at Leicester and didnt gel with the fans.

I love him for what he did, I supported and sang his name...but i remember the shushing and the attitude.

Seems he isnt happy anywhere, which is sad for him and those around him

[HighPeakFox]

1 minute ago, Chrysalis said:

So basically I guess it was a case of having achieved everything possible with us in the league there was no motivation left outside of the CL.  Makes you wonder how much of the squad felt like that, and makes me really respect Ferguson more how he kept his teams hungry.

And I think this is a really important point, and I'm sure some made it at the time. Psychologically, winning the title was harder to handle than we might suppose. And I suppose the club may not fully recover until all the heroes of that time have left or retired. Vardy has done amazingly since, but it still must be hard to lift himself over and over again.

[Guest Mickyblueeyes]

1 minute ago, Chrysalis said:

Wow

 

 

So basically I guess it was a case of having achieved everything possible with us in the league there was no motivation left outside of the CL.  Makes you wonder how much of the squad felt like that, and makes me really respect Ferguson more how he kept his teams hungry.

It’s a far easier job when you’re manager of Man United. The aims season upon season is to be up there (as Roy Keane says the Top 1) every season. Realistically, we are not meant to be there. So once the title was won and champions league campaign ended, a lot of players would’ve been very deflated because their best times at the club were behind them. If you remember, Drinkwater started that season as one of our better players then fell off. The realisation kicks in. For me, it’s far more impressive to see the likes of JV do it season upon season for us after staying put.