Injuries at the club.

[kingfox]

I can remember earlier in the season, when Tariq Lamptey returned from a long term injury for Brighton.

 

Potter eased him back in by putting him on the bench, then alternated by bringing him on for 20-30 minutes, or starting him for 60-70 minutes.

 

This is exactly what Brendan should have done with Justin.

[RowlattsFox]

Get one back, another one goes. Repeat.

[Dames]

2 minutes ago, kingfox said:

I can remember earlier in the season, when Tariq Lamptey returned from a long term injury for Brighton.

 

Potter eased him back in by putting him on the bench, then alternated by bringing him on for 20-30 minutes, or starting him for 60-70 minutes.

 

This is exactly what Brendan should have done with Justin.

Its what any normal manager does. 

 

No matter if you are in the Brendan In or Out camp it can be universally agreed that this man cannot and will not manage injured players correctly.

[AKCJ]

3 minutes ago, kingfox said:

I can remember earlier in the season, when Tariq Lamptey returned from a long term injury for Brighton.

 

Potter eased him back in by putting him on the bench, then alternated by bringing him on for 20-30 minutes, or starting him for 60-70 minutes.

 

This is exactly what Brendan should have done with Justin.

Pretty sure the club didn't bring Justin back until he was 100% fit. I'm sure that's why he was in training for so long but didn't play.

[Dames]

13 hours ago, Kopfkino said:

Basically nobody expressed concern for number of games for Justin in the match thread before the game or in the pre-match thread

 

But now there’s out in force to tell us how bad a decision it was to play him. It’s almost as if there’s an agenda…

I mentioned in another match thread last week that I was worried that Justin was being rushed back too soon. 

 

Its not an agenda, its just facts.

[Dames]

Just now, AKCJ said:

Pretty sure the club didn't bring Justin back until he was 100% fit. I'm sure that's why he was in training for so long but didn't play.

There is a huge difference in intensity from training to playing a 90 minute professional game. JJ was given very little time to adjust back and will now suffer for it. 

[AKCJ]

4 minutes ago, Dames said:

There is a huge difference in intensity from training to playing a 90 minute professional game. JJ was given very little time to adjust back and will now suffer for it. 

He was at 100% fitness and had been playing 1st team football for over a month now.

 

His injury is a result of misfortune. Could have happened to any player.

 

I'm all for slagging Brendan off, but I think he's right to play Justin. Nobody whinged about him playing until he went down.

[Leicester_Loyal]

Strange that this keeps happening to us, very weird, very misforunate...

[Corky]

It's not as Justin he had to play at all costs either with Thomas available and who subsequently played well.

[Ric Flair]

If he even dares mention Fofana coming back as the answer to all our problems then please somebody egg him in the press conference. Absolutely no point relying on any of our long term injured players as he's not handled any of them correctly and their careers are on the line.

 

 

[Corky]

3 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

If he even dares mention Fofana coming back as the answer to all our problems then please somebody egg him in the press conference. Absolutely no point relying on any of our long term injured players as he's not handled any of them correctly and their careers are on the line.

 

 

Hopefully Pat Murphy will be back with his "charge sheet", updated for Rodgers and his crimes.

[Ric Flair]

1 minute ago, Corky said:

Hopefully Pat Murphy will be back with his "charge sheet", updated for Rodgers and his crimes.

The club have probably banned him from press duties, that's why managers seldom get faced with the tough questions. There's articles written but they can hide away from that.

[RowlattsFox]

I hate how the injuries are being used as an excuse BUT at the same time we've been without Justin, Ricardo, Evans, Fofana and Castagne for large parts of the season. That is a first choice back 4. 

 

How would Man City cope without Walker, Cancelo, Dias and Stones? Cheslea without Rudiger and Silva? Liverpool shown how difficult they found it without Van Dijk, add Alexander-Arnold and Robertson to that too, how would they cope?

 

Rodgers has lost his mind recently, but the injuries have played a major part in this disasterous (maybe too strong a word) season.

[Ric Flair]

5 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

I hate how the injuries are being used as an excuse BUT at the same time we've been without Justin, Ricardo, Evans, Fofana and Castagne for large parts of the season. That is a first choice back 4. 

 

How would Man City cope without Walker, Cancelo, Dias and Stones? Cheslea without Rudiger and Silva? Liverpool shown how difficult they found it without Van Dijk, add Alexander-Arnold and Robertson to that too, how would they cope?

 

Rodgers has lost his mind recently, but the injuries have played a major part in this disasterous (maybe too strong a word) season.

The injuries are his fault though, or the culture and regime is and he's got to shoulder the blame as its also happened at Liverpool and Celtic. Very little sympathy. 

[Finnaldo]

If Top insists on keeping Brendan then transfers and physio departments need to be removed from his control and handled separately. In fact I’d give them veto over training patterns. Brendan can moan about it but he’s devaluing our squad and endangering player’s career with his unnecessarily intense training. In fact I’d be on my knees begging Rennie to come back given our long term injury record under him. 

[surrifox]

Pretty sure the decision on players’ fitness to play isn’t solely with BR - there is a whole team of physios , fitness and conditioning coaches to call on and whose decisions carry more weight .

Also Ricky who had a leg fracture a month or so back was given clearance and played the full game so  less of the uninformed criticism eh?

[coolhandfox]

16 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

The injuries are his fault though, or the culture and regime is and he's got to shoulder the blame as its also happened at Liverpool and Celtic. Very little sympathy. 

Hell of a tackle by Rodgers to break Fofana leg.

 

How he still play after breaking Riccardo leg as well the dirty rat. Two horror tackles by the gaffer......

 

 

 

 

[goose2010]

28 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

The injuries are his fault though, or the culture and regime is and he's got to shoulder the blame as its also happened at Liverpool and Celtic. Very little sympathy. 

come on, that's a bit harsh! 

[Le Renard]

I'm not sure you can attribute most of the initial injuries to Rodgers, but I think some of the secondary injuries are down to the pressure he's under, and maybe forcing him to chuck them in too early, or play them for the full 90 mins.  Sometimes the players are too eager to get back on the pitch, and this is where Potter seems to manage his players at Brighton better than others, he will sub them even if they are having a blinder of a match. 

 

[StanSP]

None of us moaned or complained that Justin was starting games. We all loved that he was back. When the lineup was announced yesterday I don't recall any comment saying Justin shouldn't be starting, or should be subbed after 60 mins, 75 mins etc... 

 

Now that he got injured, suddenly we were all thinking it but just conveniently chose not to mention it? 

[5waller5]

1 minute ago, StanSP said:

None of us moaned or complained that Justin was starting games. We all loved that he was back. When the lineup was announced yesterday I don't recall any comment saying Justin shouldn't be starting, or should be subbed after 60 mins, 75 mins etc... 

 

Now that he got injured, suddenly we were all thinking it but just conveniently chose not to mention it? 

We’re not paid £190,000 a week to remember? 

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

2 hours ago, Sampson said:

This is all in hindsight though. Plenty on here we’re defending Justin playing every game though even when he was costing us a goal every single game. He clearly wasn’t ready to be starting any game let alone every game but plenty were saying to keep playing him into form as there’s nothing left to play for.

Absolutely but he doesn't need to play 90 minutes every single game. 

[StanSP]

Just now, 5waller5 said:

We’re not paid £190,000 a week to remember? 

Huh? 

 

[goose2010]

Cant believe some of the stuff in this thread   you cannot honestly think the management would risk losing players for even longer just to get them on the pitch?! 

 

Why would you throw JJ in for instance knowing he would just get injured again?? makes no sense. 

 

You cannot see how an injury is going to react until they start playing. 

 

JJ has got through 2 and half matches absolutely fine and now all of a sudden he gets injured its BR's fault?? 

 

It was a week since Forest so its not even like it was a mid week / quick turn around! 

 

 

[5waller5]

Just now, StanSP said:

Huh? 

 

“Remember” was lazy typing.

 

Substitute with “bear in mind player fatigue and injury comebacks”.

 

Better??