Injuries at the club.

[KrefelderFox666]

Just now, goose2010 said:

Cant believe some of the stuff in this thread   you cannot honestly think the management would risk losing players for even longer just to get them on the pitch?! 

 

Why would you throw JJ in for instance knowing he would just get injured again?? makes no sense. 

 

You cannot see how an injury is going to react until they start playing. 

 

JJ has got through 2 and half matches absolutely fine and now all of a sudden he gets injured its BR's fault?? 

 

It was a week since Forest so its not even like it was a mid week / quick turn around! 

 

 

We played Liverpool on Thursday...

 

However, agree with your point. I was always dubious about him playing this many games but no one complained until now. It's just a risk that was taken and unfortunately it didn't pay off at this time. Also a little forced by other injuries and 2 games a week schedule.

[theessexfox]

1 minute ago, goose2010 said:

Cant believe some of the stuff in this thread   you cannot honestly think the management would risk losing players for even longer just to get them on the pitch?! 

 

Why would you throw JJ in for instance knowing he would just get injured again?? makes no sense. 

 

You cannot see how an injury is going to react until they start playing. 

 

JJ has got through 2 and half matches absolutely fine and now all of a sudden he gets injured its BR's fault?? 

 

It was a week since Forest so its not even like it was a mid week / quick turn around! 

 

 

True if you don’t include the Liverpool game on Thursday. 
 

I saw a fair few in the pre match thread saying we shouldn’t be playing JJ

[goose2010]

4 minutes ago, KrefelderFox666 said:

We played Liverpool on Thursday...

 

However, agree with your point. I was always dubious about him playing this many games but no one complained until now. It's just a risk that was taken and unfortunately it didn't pay off at this time. Also a little forced by other injuries and 2 games a week schedule.

 

4 minutes ago, theessexfox said:

True if you don’t include the Liverpool game on Thursday. 
 

I saw a fair few in the pre match thread saying we shouldn’t be playing JJ

completely forgot about the Liverpool game - guess as it was like watching a Liverpool training session it was easy to forget

[Ric Flair]

43 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Hell of a tackle by Rodgers to break Fofana leg.

 

How he still play after breaking Riccardo leg as well the dirty rat. Two horror tackles by the gaffer......

 

 

 

 

His team tried to get Ricardo to carry on playing twice after that leg fracture. In the same game they kept an injured Jamie Vardy on who wasn't fit enough to take a penalty. Then a week or so later he's starting again and again gets injured and they keep him on and cause a much more serious injury.

 

Jonny Evans was asked to try and run off a grade 4 tear in his hamstring.

 

Then there's the handling of James Justin's recent return. How on earth can some of you not point the finger to Rodgers and his medical team?

 

The sports science lot have regularly warned him not to play players who are in the Red zone but he ignores them as he hasn't supposedly got the alternative to pick because they are already injured from his mismanagement.

[Leicester_Loyal]

35 minutes ago, goose2010 said:

Cant believe some of the stuff in this thread   you cannot honestly think the management would risk losing players for even longer just to get them on the pitch?! 

 

Why would you throw JJ in for instance knowing he would just get injured again?? makes no sense. 

 

You cannot see how an injury is going to react until they start playing. 

 

JJ has got through 2 and half matches absolutely fine and now all of a sudden he gets injured its BR's fault?? 

 

It was a week since Forest so its not even like it was a mid week / quick turn around! 

 

 

He played the full 90 vs. Liverpool on Thursday night mate, so it was exactly that.

 

EDIT: I see you've already been corrected.

 

We're making the same mistakes over and over again, it's Rodgers people, we need to wake up.

Edited 14 February 2022 by Leicester_Loyal

[st albans fox]

19 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

His team tried to get Ricardo to carry on playing twice after that leg fracture. In the same game they kept an injured Jamie Vardy on who wasn't fit enough to take a penalty. Then a week or so later he's starting again and again gets injured and they keep him on and cause a much more serious injury.

 

Jonny Evans was asked to try and run off a grade 4 tear in his hamstring.

 

Then there's the handling of James Justin's recent return. How on earth can some of you not point the finger to Rodgers and his medical team?

 

The sports science lot have regularly warned him not to play players who are in the Red zone but he ignores them as he hasn't supposedly got the alternative to pick because they are already injured from his mismanagement.

Struggling to argue with this …..

[coolhandfox]

22 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

His team tried to get Ricardo to carry on playing twice after that leg fracture.

Isn't that down to the on pitch medical team and the player?

22 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

In the same game they kept an injured Jamie Vardy on who wasn't fit enough to take a penalty.

Hadn't we used all our subs by that point? 

22 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Then a week or so later he's starting again and again gets injured and they keep him on and cause a much more serious injury.

I assume he got the green little from the Medical team to play? 

22 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Jonny Evans was asked to try and run off a grade 4 tear in his hamstring. 

Pretty sure he went straight down and rolled of to the side line and went straight off, it happened in front of where I sit. 

22 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Then there's the handling of James Justin's recent return. How on earth can some of you not point the finger to Rodgers and his medical team?

Club's not he's, pretty sure the club recuits them? 

22 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

The sports science lot have regularly warned him not to play players who are in the Red zone but he ignores them as he hasn't supposedly got the alternative to pick because they are already injured from his mismanagement.

Evidence?

 

Look I think he's downing a below par job, but this is turning into a witch hunt.  

[Ric Flair]

Just now, coolhandfox said:

Isn't that down to the on pitch medical team and the player?

Hadn't we used all our subs by that point? 

I assume he got the green little from the Medical team to play? 

Pretty sure he went straight down and rolled of to the side line and went straight off, it happened in front of where I sit. 

Club's not he's, pretty sure the club recuits them? 

Evidence?

 

Look I think he's downing a below par job, but this is turning into a witch hunt.  

He was instrumental in bringing the head Doctor and some of the medical staff in. 

 

That is what I've been told in regard to Evans, they asked him to go back on and try and see how he'd get on. Likewise on the sports science stuff and he's even alluded to it himself when saying he can't give players the rest they need. I sympathise to a point there but the vicious circle is a lot of his doing which is causing a smaller group of available players and therefore he keeps playing them when warned about their condition.

 

In regard to Vardy, yes we'd used all of our subs but not once but twice he kept him on and he's out for 4 months. There's consequences there that as a manager you have to make the right decision. I believe in both occasions the injuries actually occurred when we still had sub/s left but got worse and worse after he'd opted to keep him on and all the subs were used. 

 

 

[sm1]

29 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

He was instrumental in bringing the head Doctor and some of the medical staff in. 

 

That is what I've been told in regard to Evans, they asked him to go back on and try and see how he'd get on. Likewise on the sports science stuff and he's even alluded to it himself when saying he can't give players the rest they need. I sympathise to a point there but the vicious circle is a lot of his doing which is causing a smaller group of available players and therefore he keeps playing them when warned about their condition.

 

In regard to Vardy, yes we'd used all of our subs but not once but twice he kept him on and he's out for 4 months. There's consequences there that as a manager you have to make the right decision. I believe in both occasions the injuries actually occurred when we still had sub/s left but got worse and worse after he'd opted to keep him on and all the subs were used. 

 

 

Brendan along with his mate Glen Driscoll overalled our medical team in 2020, bringing in his people. Since then the results are evident. Certainly in the league cup against Liverpool, when Vardy was clearly injured and couldn't take a penalty, we had 1 sub still available. Also JJ's injury was waiting to happen, playing so many games after a 1 yr layoff.

[filbertway]

Ah god that Vardy one was a joke

 

Remember when he kept playing Evans during the intense period of fixtures till he broke down as well.

 

Nothing is more important to Brendan than Brendan

[Chrysalis]

2 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

His team tried to get Ricardo to carry on playing twice after that leg fracture. In the same game they kept an injured Jamie Vardy on who wasn't fit enough to take a penalty. Then a week or so later he's starting again and again gets injured and they keep him on and cause a much more serious injury.

 

Jonny Evans was asked to try and run off a grade 4 tear in his hamstring.

 

Then there's the handling of James Justin's recent return. How on earth can some of you not point the finger to Rodgers and his medical team?

 

The sports science lot have regularly warned him not to play players who are in the Red zone but he ignores them as he hasn't supposedly got the alternative to pick because they are already injured from his mismanagement.

Waiting for the posts saying its JJ's fault for playing those games and getting himself injured.

[turlo]

22 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Ah god that Vardy one was a joke

 

Remember when he kept playing Evans during the intense period of fixtures till he broke down as well.

 

Nothing is more important to Brendan than Brendan

I can remember Evans struggling towards the end of the games around that period, Whether it was his foot injury, old back injury or just cramp i don't know but he didn't look right. A lot on here were raising concerns about him being rushed back to playing twice a week as wasn't worth the risk. In the Newcastle game you could see he was walking with a slight limp on the pre match footage and 6 minutes into the game he goes down with a hammy. 

Playing Vardy 6 days after going down with a hamstring injury was an unnecessary risk. You don't Fk about with hamstring injuries, especially with a 35 year old who's putting a lot of force through his hamstrings with his explosive sprinting action. 

 

Playing JJ 3 times in a week was an unnecessary risk that was and in fact Rodgers himself said after the Spurs or Brighton game that they had to be careful rushing him back into playing multiple games a week. Surely you build the game load gradually by going from 1 a week for a few weeks and monitor, then to go 2 games a week and monitor and so on. What you don't do is go from 1 start and sub appearance straight to starting 3 games in a week!!!!

The same thing happened with Ricardo last season when he was rushed from making 2 second half sub appearances straight into starting  3 games the following week!!!

 

The common theme here is Rodgers/the medical team are taking unnecessary risks and its costing us big time. 

[goose2010]

Anyone know what Praet has done? Seen he has had an op today? 

 

Probably Brendon's fault as well this one

[Hales]

1 minute ago, goose2010 said:

Anyone know what Praet has done? Seen he has had an op today? 

 

Probably Brendon's fault as well this one

Injured in training, broken bone in his foot.

[davieG]

From a year ago,

 

[foxinsocks]

1 hour ago, davieG said:

From a year ago,

 

The injury rate requires investigation. If this was a company we would have a team on it now.

However, the injury issue does not mean that other issues are not dogging us... eg. Rodgers in ability to accept responsibility and to improve his own decision making.  

[filbertway]

1 hour ago, davieG said:

From a year ago,

 

Justin out till November

 

[turlo]

2 hours ago, davieG said:

From a year ago,

 

and it got a lot worse after that as we had more big injuries after that ie Barnes, Madders, Evans towards the end and Ricardo & Castagne picking up regular niggles from Feb to May. Going by memory so probably missed a few. 

[Merging Cultures]

On 14/02/2022 at 15:02, Chrysalis said:

Waiting for the posts saying its JJ's fault for playing those games and getting himself injured.

Someone on my WhatsApp group said he needs to man up and get himself fit.

I was blown away. Like you can just overcome ligament issues. Crazy talk.

[ajthefox]

How many players does it take to get injured after coming back from a long term injury before we all agree there's a problem?

 

Its hard to really know what's going on here and it is very easy to point things out with hindsight, but the one thing here that is undeniable is that our injury record is not good.

 

Vards, Maddison, Ricardo, Evans, Castagne and now JJ have all, in the last year or so, come back and got injured again. 

 

I don't really know what the problem is but I can't help but see the alarming way things have been trending. If Little Wes (or any of the others) come back and gets injured again it's going to be really hard to argue that we aren't doing something wrong systemically.

[davieG]

14 minutes ago, ajthefox said:

How many players does it take to get injured after coming back from a long term injury before we all agree there's a problem?

 

Its hard to really know what's going on here and it is very easy to point things out with hindsight, but the one thing here that is undeniable is that our injury record is not good.

 

Vards, Maddison, Ricardo, Evans, Castagne and now JJ have all, in the last year or so, come back and got injured again. 

 

I don't really know what the problem is but I can't help but see the alarming way things have been trending. If Little Wes (or any of the others) come back and gets injured again it's going to be really hard to argue that we aren't doing something wrong systemically.

Playing too many games too soon as there's pressure on to get your best players on the pitch. so with so many injured for other reasons that pressure is even greater.

[StanSP]

Encouraging that Vardy is only out for a couple more weeks. Could be back in the squad for Leeds? 

 

Fofana trains on Friday. Maybe see him in the squad for Burnley? 

[foxile5]

1 hour ago, StanSP said:

 

Fofana trains on Friday. Maybe see him in the squad for Burnley? 

Maybe? He'll start three concurrent games and then have 6 weeks out. 

[Harpenden Fox]

1 hour ago, foxile5 said:

Maybe? He'll start three concurrent games and then have 6 weeks out. 

He will definitely struggle if he plays in three concurrent games chief

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

2 hours ago, StanSP said:

Encouraging that Vardy is only out for a couple more weeks. Could be back in the squad for Leeds? 

 

Fofana trains on Friday. Maybe see him in the squad for Burnley? 

Guarantee we have at least three more additions to the injured list before then.