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The Premier League’s so-called ‘Big Six’ could become part of a new-look Champions League.

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31 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Or, looking at it another way, as the PL rights would be nigh on worthless, we may have to form our own league to make a more sellable product and the chance to retain players.

 

A north European conference of say, the likes of us, saints, Everton, Newcastle plus the likes of Eindhoven, Anderlecht, Copenhagen, Rangers, Leverkusen

 

What a funky league that'd be.

I know, retaining players and their attraction to the big 6 would increase, I think that becomes the fundamental problem.

 

"North European Conference" think the name needs to be funkier though :D

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Even if ist Cutting Off our own noses..

 

All other Team supporters.....Dont Watch Any of their games, even against your Own team..

All other Team supporters.....Dont go to  Any of their games including against your One team....

 

Create a break Away European league, where those Teams are Not permited to participate...

 Non chosen Elite   agree not join the "break-aways"..

 

Get a certain Part of the Media to Work with the idea,& on the " non-elite" side....Those elite sides will be Left gagging...!!

Their fans Couldnt afford to Fly to Europe for their own League Matches every week...They so want to Play against their own country "others"

 

It seems the Elite can threaten everyone...Then put in a counter-threat, including to EUEFA/FIFA,  All " other" National clubs can recreate their own

 honest incorrupt bodies & organisations,without the elite...in fact Liverpool,Man.city.Arsenals,Barcelonas,Juventus,Bayern etc will be banned to

Even participate in their countries own Football Associations, if they Dont comply...

 

cut this Bullshit in the bud,by booting this " elite" bunch into touch,because peoples Football belong to ALL, and Not just to the chosen few....!!!

no matter how Rich they are...."This is the Message that fans Wwide need to get across".   True-football-fans-support-matter

The honest hard Fans Local & wwide..can stop this..!! Cancel your sport pkg, in fact cancel all your pkges for a year.  Take back the power from

The corrupt mogels,who are Stealing All our Sports...

 

Whats next...written Football contracts...International managers can only  Chose players from the elite...

Elite fans ...Programs are only ran for those contractrual  TV Foreign fans...

 

Its 'OUR'...... football.....!!!

 

 

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Its their choice, but they shouldn't expect the 'lesser' clubs still in the original league to pay for any costs etc towards it - as they (should be) can easily afford it themselves.

 

The PL has got great history, and the integrity of these 'big six' clubs will be under even more massive scrutiny if this odd proposal goes ahead.

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5 hours ago, Foxy_Bear said:

There should be THREE European competitions. 

 

1. Champions Cup.

 

All winners of European leagues get drawn in a knockout tie over two legs. No seeding. No qualifying. 

 

2. Cup winners cup. 

 

Same as the other competition but with the respective FA cup winners of each country. 

 

3. A champions league format competition that they can shoehorn 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc from the big european leagues. A meaningless money making competition.

This was exactly how it was in the 70s and 80s

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3 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

Even if ist Cutting Off our own noses..

 

All other Team supporters.....Dont Watch Any of their games, even against your Own team..

All other Team supporters.....Dont go to  Any of their games including against your One team....

 

Create a break Away European league, where those Teams are Not permited to participate...

 Non chosen Elite   agree not join the "break-aways"..

 

Get a certain Part of the Media to Work with the idea,& on the " non-elite" side....Those elite sides will be Left gagging...!!

Their fans Couldnt afford to Fly to Europe for their own League Matches every week...They so want to Play against their own country "others"

 

It seems the Elite can threaten everyone...Then put in a counter-threat, including to EUEFA/FIFA,  All " other" National clubs can recreate their own

 honest incorrupt bodies & organisations,without the elite...in fact Liverpool,Man.city.Arsenals,Barcelonas,Juventus,Bayern etc will be banned to

Even participate in their countries own Football Associations, if they Dont comply...

 

cut this Bullshit in the bud,by booting this " elite" bunch into touch,because peoples Football belong to ALL, and Not just to the chosen few....!!!

no matter how Rich they are...."This is the Message that fans Wwide need to get across".   True-football-fans-support-matter

The honest hard Fans Local & wwide..can stop this..!! Cancel your sport pkg, in fact cancel all your pkges for a year.  Take back the power from

The corrupt mogels,who are Stealing All our Sports...

 

Whats next...written Football contracts...International managers can only  Chose players from the elite...

Elite fans ...Programs are only ran for those contractrual  TV Foreign fans...

 

Its 'OUR'...... football.....!!!

 

 

Just get the other 13 teams to let Burnley win every game for 5 seasons, followed by another team etc, they are almost certain to get top 4 therefore guaranteeing a big 6 side can’t get to the CL

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It is so weighted towards the big clubs.  Even if you they get knocked out of the best competition in Europe, they get automatically submitted into the 2nd biggest competition in Europe with a chance of winning that!  Man Utd should be out of Europe altogether as they have been awful, instead they get to have another frickin go!  Pathetic.

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8 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Manchester Utd haven't won the Premier League for 8 years.

Arsenal haven't won the Premier League for 16 years.

Liverpool have only just won the English First Division for the first time in 30 years.

Tottenham haven't won the English First Division for 60 years.

Chelsea and Manchester City have only won the league because they've broken transfer spending records regularly, and have been regularly punished by UEFA for breaking various rules.

 

I don't recognise their superiority over us.

It is just, simply, cheating.

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14 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

The problem is if a euro super league was formed, arsenal's squad would improve overnight as they'd have the financial muscle to poach, say, Calvert lewin, ward prowse, soyuncu and zaha. 

 

And, at a stroke, the tv rights value for the PL would collapse. Bang goes our own business model. 

 

 

 

 

Exactly. And that’s my concern. The concept rewards failure. Financially, arsenal have done well. However, they’ve messed around with their product for years. This essentially gives them an unfair advantage to right their wrongs. While, in the interim, ridicules the “super” tournament they want to sell to the world.

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Arsenal are still dining out on their history.  Paying over UKP600k a week for striker who has stopped scoring and a Midfielder that is not deemed good enough to play, demonstrates what a car crash of a Club Arsenal have become.  They would be better off playing in the Irish Super League,  given the way they saw off Dundalk.

 

This entire idea stinks. 

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18 hours ago, Corky said:

Big club managers- "We play too much football"

 

Big club executives- "We'd be delighted to play more football"

 

No surprise this comes up when Man United **** off out of the Champions League and Arsenal languish in the bottom six. 

co-efficient is becoming more and more of a farce.

 

clubs that qualify everywhere get to build it up, even a club only getting some draws and the odd win, but doing it every year will get more than a club that qualifies once or twice a decade but then makes it to quarters.

 

qualification via co-efficient should only maybe be a thing if co-efficient is only the previous competition, nothing before that.

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11 hours ago, pazzerfox said:

It is so weighted towards the big clubs.  Even if you they get knocked out of the best competition in Europe, they get automatically submitted into the 2nd biggest competition in Europe with a chance of winning that!  Man Utd should be out of Europe altogether as they have been awful, instead they get to have another frickin go!  Pathetic.

yeah that is complete bs!! and I mentioned it in the europa thread.  The excuse uefa have to make the ties relevant to last game is nonsense, the money you get per win and coefficient gained keeps teams motivated.

 

Essentially a team that finished second in CL group, progresses to next round but then is knocked out, gets less coefficient and money vs a team finishing 3rd in CL group, and then goes on to win europa.

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The meaning of all competitions is just being eroded. As a proper supporter of any club it just wont be worth following in 5 years time IMO.

 

Football as a sport is very nearly dead, football as a business the killer. 

 

At least I had a tortuous time following us for 25 years, I almost remember what it felt like to be fully engrossed in it all, the passion, the living and breathing of all things Leicester City. I would even end relationships over it when I was younger, I was angry at times and would defend my home city to a ridiculous level........the feel and truth off it all has gone i'm afraid. 

 

 

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The first nail in the coffin was deciding to rig the World Cup so Qatar could host it.... a completely ridiculous place to host a World Cup. Football generally has become too big and too grand, and now the powers that be only want the most profitable organisations to compete against one another. 
 

Do they not sit there and just see how embarrassing it all is? Particularly when you have United being shagged in the CL? Nothing surprises me in the world anymore, but footy has been heading down the shitter for a few years now, even the FFP is a total farce as city got away with it..... is football now being run by a bunch of spoilt 14 year old brats? 
 

It was better with shit up pitches, stadiums that stunk of piss, and semi-alcoholic party boys scoring goals from 40 yards for a laugh. 

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